Tol-in-Gaurhoth IV (The Saga, erm, Still Continues...)

[Azaelia of Willowbottom]

Even though I died very early in the game, , I've been reading and guessing along with everyone still alive. It was great fun!

I think that was the first werewolf game here that the villagers won, though I could be wrong.

I'm looking forward to playing the next game, hopefully I'll last longer...

[Lalaith]

Yes, I felt for those who died early. Particularly those in whose demise I played a part. *sheepishly offers some of Feanor's black roses to Oddwen and Kath*

I wonder what did happen to Esgallhugwen? I've checked and she hasn't been back since she disappeared that day...must have been very annoying for poor Hookbill and lmp, they were already at a disadvantage, what with this being such a big game....

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

poor Hookbill and lmp, they were already at a disadvantage

True about it being a big game, but LMP had the advantage of nobody thinking he was guilty. I'm curious, LMP, what did you think when I started bashing you? And very nice work with the early vote for Hookbill. Clever.

[the guy who be short]

The game actually ran into difficulty before it even started. I'm not sure if anybdy noticed, but mormegil said he would be in the game but didn't appear in it. Unfortunately, Hookbill accidentally PMed him, thinking he was a wolf, so we both agreed he should be excluded. Which was a shame, I like his style of play.

I almost whacked my head on my desk about mixing up the times. Ah well, it happens.

That's about all that went wrong with the game, actually. I loved modding it - it was a great experience. Thanks for all the reps too guys. About four of those boxes come from this thread.

And about the tree-frogs... I'm not sure where the idea came from, but it had been lingering in my mind for a long time. Which kinda makes you worry about my mind, doesn't it?

[Saurreg]

Well Mr. Mod, I say you were first-class. My favourite was the post on Hookbill's death. Classic.

[Oddwen]

You were great, Guy, even with your little *ahem* problems.

[Firefoot]

Originally posted by Eomer:
And Nilpaurion....*sniff*.....good luck with your quest, my friend!

Originally posted by Nilpaurion:
Second, cousin Eomer ( ), I shall avenge your death, or else my sister will kill me. But wait, she can't do that--see my sig.

Another thing unresolved: what on earth were Nilp and Eomer talking about?

[littlemanpoet]

Well, yeah. I was a bit ticked about Esgal. Talk about rotten luck! I may be at fault in the way Hookbill played. Before the game started, I figured I wasn't going to be a werewolf but considered what my strategy would be if I ever was: to convince myself for DAY segments that I was NOT a werewolf, and post thusly. I challenged Esgal and Hookbill to try it out, and my guess is that they did their best. Problem was, it was a strategy that was right for me but probably not for them. I'd say it worked for me fairly well early. The closer to the end of the game, the harder it was to pull off. Frankly, when Esgal went down and Hookbill had already been virtually promised a lynching on the following day, that's when I started feeling desperate. From there on my game plan was to not show it.

I am RELIEVED it's over. If I am ever a werewolf again, it will be too soon. I didn't actually want to be one the first time, and tgwbs will confirm that my response was "YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING!"

I did make some rookie mistakes early. Such as beating on Eomer on Day One. Such as picking Azaelia for no good reason other than whim. And I made a strategic mistake (can't say rookie anymore) on the final day, which was to pounce on Lalaith. Same thing I did with Eomer. If I had voted for Evisse, there still would have been enough votes available to double-lynch me as well, though, though Firefoot would have probably joined us against Evisse, so it would have been 4 to 3; but I would probably have gone down the following day anyway.

I considered the odds of taking out a known innocent versus risking the hunter in order to try to get the cursed villager. The way I saw it, getting the cursed villager was on a relatively consistent risk ratio of 8:1. The Hunter would have had to choose me on the night that I chose the hunter, so the risk ratio was a lot higher, but shrinking the further into the game we went.

Notice, folks, that the phantom's plan was inadvertently used, and worked. Innocents were lynched early and the Seer remained unlynched long enough to do the damage needed for the village to win. If, however, Esgal had stayed in the game longer, Ang had revealed himself too boldly, too soon.

Most of the strategic things I posted were things I truly believed to be the case, which was all part of trying to not only appear, but think, innocent.

More on strategy when I get to my home computer where I can quote at length from PMs.

Oh, one final thing. Nobody noticed how Hookbill and I made seriously bad werewolf mistakes in the first day, posting during NIGHT hours. But nobody picked up on it, much to my relief.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

We win! We win! Take that, hairy beasts of the night!

Nilp- Absolutely fascinating! "I'm a wolf, lynch me." (Fea)

Thank you. Sorry about almost voting for you. Until an hour ago I was pretty sure you were the last werewolf, and doing an excellent job of avoiding suspicion. Boy, was I wrong.

Way cool archery, I might add.


lmp, an excellent game you played! And:

By the way, Nilpaurion should be let be too, being a suspicious character. (lmp)

Why, thank you! You got me spot on when you said:

Nilp . . . is simply playing his "suspicious character" role to the hilt. (lmp)

I think I'll use this as a sig for the next game.

So, a heartfelt round of applause to everyone in this game, especially to our mod, the guy: vy ze vay, I loved my death. Excellent use of my alter-ego.

Remember your promise. I'm joining the next game.

Right, Adam.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

TGWBS, when tp died, there was an envelope that someone picked up. I'm assuming Saurreg got it, as the other Sherriff, but what exactly was it? Just a random addition to the story?

My favorite death by far was Eomer's, what with Ulmo's hugs. I just about fell out of the chair laughing. He's too good looking to die!

[Saurreg]

The last communique The Phantom made was addressed to yours truly. It contained a set of instructions of what I was supposed to do (never followed them) and also a comprehensive list of the players with TP's analyse on them (never really read them).

My own letters to the Phantom were far more curt!

EDIT: Here is proof of TP's formidable prowess of analyse. The werewolves were right to eliminate him early:

Originally Posted by The Phantom

Dear Sheriff Saurreg,

Should I die tonight, these are my final thoughts.

You should try and figure out who the seer is and follow his/her lead without making it too obvious. To recognize the seer, simply remember that the seer would want to leave clues behind pointing out who the dreamed of and what their status was.

Also, consider behavior to pick out wolves.

Here is a breakdown of what happened on day one-

NAME ANGUIREL
WHO THEY ACCUSED No one.
WHO THEY DEFENDED No one.
WHO THEY VOTED FOR No one.
STATUS Who knows? We have no info.

NAME AZALIA
WHO THEY ACCUSED No one.
WHO THEY DEFENDED No one.
WHO THEY VOTED FOR No one.
STATUS Isn’t it funny that she showed up and made two posts but didn’t really say anything? She is definitely not the seer since she left no clue as to what her dream was. I am a bit suspicious of her.

NAME CELUIEN
WHO THEY ACCUSED Oddwen
WHO THEY DEFENDED Feanor, Eomer, the phantom
WHO THEY VOTED FOR Oddwen
STATUS Cel said this about Fea- “Fea doesn't seem as suspicious as I was starting to think earlier. Just, umm, noisy. Not particularly werewolfish.” And later said this- “At this point, the phantom, Fea and Eomer are at the bottom of my suspect list.” If Cel is the seer then Fea is innocent.

NAME DANCING SPAWN
WHO THEY ACCUSED Kath, Lalaith
WHO THEY DEFENDED Lalaith
WHO THEY VOTED FOR No one.
STATUS Spawn is not the seer because she did not leave a clue as to what her dream was. One person she both attacked and defended and she was wrong about the other person.

NAME EOMER
WHO THEY ACCUSED Anguirel, Nilp, Lalaith, Kath, Fea, LMP
WHO THEY DEFENDED Fea, Nilp
WHO THEY VOTED FOR Kath
STATUS If Eomer is the seer then Anguirel is a werewolf since he dropped his name early and reminded us to keep an eye on him in his next post. However, it doesn’t sound like smart seer behavior to point fingers at so many people since you put yourself at risk of being lynched. But then again, perhaps he was just trying to hide his “Ang is a wolf” dream amidst other accusations. And if Eomer is a wolf, then either Esgal or Oddwen is also a wolf. He popped in at the end to break a five-way tie. Even though his name was one of the names, a wolf would have voted for a sixth person and been willing to get lynched along with five innocents for the good of the team. The only way a wolf would break a five-way tie is if there was another wolf besides himself on the list. The others were Kath (who is innocent of course), Saurreg (we know you’re innocent), Oddwen, and Esgal. So, it stands to reason that if Eomer is a wolf then so is one of those two, probably Esgal since Oddwen was a wolf in the last game.

NAME ESGALLHUGWEN
WHO THEY ACCUSED No one.
WHO THEY DEFENDED No one.
WHO THEY VOTED FOR No one.
STATUS We have no information.

NAME EVISSE
WHO THEY ACCUSED Oddwen, lmp, Lalaith
WHO THEY DEFENDED No one.
WHO THEY VOTED FOR No one.
STATUS Evisse is not the seer since she didn’t separate the people she accused. A true seer would make sure there was a way of discovering who they actually dreamed about from who they just pointed fingers at.

NAME FEANOR
WHO THEY ACCUSED Spawn, Eomer, the phantom, lmp
WHO THEY DEFENDED No one.
WHO THEY VOTED FOR Eomer.
STATUS If Fea is the seer then Eomer is a wolf since she pointed at him the most and ultimately voted for him. When the voting was very much undecided she did not tack her vote onto someone who already had votes. Was this because she was the seer and had spotted Eomer, or because she is a wolf wanting to add another innocent to the list? If she is a wolf, then Esgal and Oddwen aren’t since they already had votes when she voted- she would’ve tacked on her vote to an innocent who already had one (like Kath) to try and save her wolf friend. She made an awful lot of noise and risked getting lynched though. That probably isn’t seer behavior.

NAME FIREFOOT
WHO THEY ACCUSED Azalia, Kath, Oddwen, Saurreg
WHO THEY DEFENDED Fea, Cel, Spawn, Evisse, Hookbill, Nilp, Lalaith
WHO THEY VOTED FOR Saurreg
STATUS Firefoot could be the seer. Declaring as many people as she did to be not suspicious might be something she’s doing to preserve her life. And she said this of Fea “Phantom has called Fea's statements absurd (and I rather agree with that), but wouldn't they also be absurd things for a werewolf to say? What kind of idiot werewolf would say something so very incriminating? Especially this early when we have naught but virtually blind accusations to go by?” and she later said this- “And anyway, I don't really think Fea is a werewolf.” If Firefoot is the seer then Fea is innocent. If Firefoot is a wolf then Oddwen, Esgal, and Eomer probably aren't, since she didn't try to save them with her vote.

NAME HOOKBILL
WHO THEY ACCUSED No one.
WHO THEY DEFENDED No one.
WHO THEY VOTED FOR No one.
STATUS HB posted three times but didn’t really say anything. That makes me a bit suspicious, and certain that HB is not the seer.

NAME LALAITH
WHO THEY ACCUSED No one.
WHO THEY DEFENDED No one.
WHO THEY VOTED FOR Kath
STATUS I find it odd that Lal didn’t really point fingers but went ahead and voted. She’s not the seer, that’s for sure.

NAME LITTLEMANPOET
WHO THEY ACCUSED Eomer
WHO THEY DEFENDED Lalaith
WHO THEY VOTED FOR No one.
STATUS I suppose lmp could be the seer, and if he is then Eomer is a werewolf, since Eomer is the only one that he really truly latched onto.

NAME NILP
WHO THEY ACCUSED No one.
WHO THEY DEFENDED No one.
WHO THEY VOTED FOR No one.
STATUS He posted twice but did not point fingers or defend. Who knows if he’s a wolf (he’s not the seer).

NAME ODDWEN
WHO THEY ACCUSED No one.
WHO THEY DEFENDED No one.
WHO THEY VOTED FOR No one.
STATUS Oddwen only made one post and didn’t say much. She’s not the seer. She could be a wolf, but she was in the last game so I wouldn’t bet on it.

So, Celuien could be the seer declaring Fea innocent, Firefoot could be the seer declaring Fea innocent, Eomer could be the seer declaring Ang guilty, or lmp could be the seer declaring Eomer guilty.

There’s a very slight chance that Fea is the seer declaring Eomer guilty, or that Anguirel or Esgallhugwen is the seer and just couldn’t show up yesterday.

I am sure that the werewolves are narrowing their sights on the seer. Let’s hope that the seer isn’t killed before he/she spots someone.

I wish you the best of luck.

-the phantom

[the guy who be short]

Originally Posted by Fea

TGWBS, when tp died, there was an envelope that someone picked up. I'm assuming Saurreg got it, as the other Sherriff, but what exactly was it? Just a random addition to the story?

Nope, it was a letter than tp wrote before his death. The Shirriffs send me (updated) letters whenever they want. If one of them dies, the latest letter goes to the other Shirriff.

Edit: Cross post.

I'm glad to see so many people enjoyed my deaths. My favourite was also Eomer's. The Elmo/Ulmo pun was too good to resist... though I was quite loathe to let such a handsome man die.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

The Elmo/Ulmo pun was too good to resist...

You bet it is. You would enjoy the chat room... Ulmo is a mod... I've nearly been kicked out a few times for my "accidental" misspellings of his name. Now where is that evil smiley?

[Oddwen]

Me, cursed? That would explain the poorly constructed gallows *groan*

It's a good thing I was lynched, though, I've been screaming about Lalaith for days...

Good game, everyone!