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Wight
Join Date: May 2003
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The legend of the awakening says that only 144 elves awoke at Cuiviénen. Three of them, Imin, Tata and Enel, awoke first, whith their wifes, and they awoke the rest of the elves they found spleeping. The people that followed Imin were the origin of the Vanyar; the followers of Tata, of the Noldor, and the peopleo of Enel, of the Teleri.
And their numbers were (including Imin, Tata and Enel): Vanyar: 14 elves Noldor: 56 elves Teleri: 74 elves.
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I was thinking more along the lines of, a projection of the future percentages of skills and inclinations within the elven population.
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Shadowed Prince
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Ah, you failed to specify, you see.
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The Vanyar's host was said to be the smallest. That makes sense, but I didn't realise it was that small - 14 out of 144 (note the importance of that number - the Eldar worked in 12s, 12 12s are 144) or 9.7%. We can presume, then, that only a tenth of all the Quendi were Vanyar. Overall, then, 10% of all Elves were Vanyar. 38% were Of Noldorin kind, that is to say, they were either Noldor, or Moriquendi of the same type (and presumably good craftsmen?). 51.% were Teleri or Moriquendi of the same sort. We can't really work anything else out. We have no idea how many Noldorin and Telerin Quendi became Moriquendi, though I'd presume it was a large part of the Telerin and a small part of the Noldorin Quendi. In "Of the Flight of the Noldor" it is said Quote:
All this has been worked out on the presumption that the numbers Tolkien came up with are still relevant. |
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