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Kitanna · 07-03-2005, 09:35 PM

I always found Theoden's death to be a truly sad part. But never to the point of tears on my part.
However when Sam believes Frodo is dead, well that is just powerful literature. Sam is so broken up and in the course of the books we come to know and love Sam and feel his pain at this.
And of course the Grey Havens. It's the end of the novel, it's the end of Gandalf, Bilbo, and Frodo's life in Middle-Earth. And finally Sam must say good-bye to Frodo. So sad.

mormegil · 07-03-2005, 09:46 PM

Both in movie and books the Grey Havens get me choked up but not really crying.

Another is when Frodo takes the task upon himself and Elrond compares him to other mortals such as Hurin, Turin and Beren. That is extremely emotionally.

Finally a third I can remember that gets me choked up is when Samwise carries Frodo up Mt. Doom...I just love that little guy.

Thinlómien · 07-04-2005, 02:59 AM

No one has yet mentioned the part that always makes me cry: in Cirith Ungol, when Gollum is like a hobbit again for a few frail moments and as Sam awakes it's gone forever.
And many times I've cried when the rohirrim enter the battle of Pelennor fields. (Well that's not due to grief...

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Essex · 07-04-2005, 02:59 AM

sam singing his song when he had lost all hope at the top of the tower at cirith ungol

merry asking pippin "are you going to bury me?" after his battle with the WK

gandalf meeting up with the hobbits and commenting on Merry " He should have been borne in honour into the city"

eowyn saying to eomer that merry should becomae a knight of the riddermark.

pippin being 'killed' at the gates of mordor (well, the first time I read it I thought he was - I still remember laying in bed in my little bedroom as a kid reading the scene for the first time late at night - I burst into tears) - but when I saw him serving drinks and food to sam and frodo on the field of cormallen I was overjoyed!

aragorn getting down on his knee and praising Frodo and Sam on the field of cormallen

the grey havens of course, and Gandalf's immortal line.

and even the APPENDICIES! the tale of the years, and the ongoing events of the fellowship - when aragorn was laid to rest, and it was said that the "beds of Meriadoc and Pergrin were set beside the bed of the great king" gets me welling up every time I read it.

Thinlómien · 07-04-2005, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Essex

the grey havens of course, and Gandalf's immortal line.

Ouch! I forgot that lovely immortal line! I even once did a cartoon "Istari and the threat of a nuclear power plant" and those are Gandalf's last lines in there also...

Holbytlass · 07-05-2005, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Essex

and even the APPENDICIES! the tale of the years, and the ongoing events of the fellowship - when aragorn was laid to rest, and it was said that the "beds of Meriadoc and Pergrin were set beside the bed of the great king" gets me welling up every time I read it.

And when Frodo leaves because of his own grief and pain but he thinks by leaving, Sam will not be torn. And Sam has his life with Rosie and all the family but sails on to Frodo at the end and we don't know what he finds. (I'm sorry, I'm crying now as I type). I don't really want to know, but is Frodo still alive ? Bilbo probably has long passed but Frodo wasn't that much older, but well, one never knows.

And did Legolas and Gimli reach there in their boat? Have they all met up?And how sad for Gandalf (I think) and Legolas being immortal seeing Gimli, Frodo and Sam's death.

Folwren · 07-05-2005, 08:06 AM

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Originially posted by Holbytlass
And when Frodo leaves because of his own grief and pain but he thinks by leaving, Sam will not be torn. And Sam has his life with Rosie and all the family but sails on to Frodo at the end and we don't know what he finds. (I'm sorry, I'm crying now as I type). I don't really want to know, but is Frodo still alive ? Bilbo probably has long passed but Frodo wasn't that much older, but well, one never knows.

That is so sad!! I never thought about that being possible. I honestly think that Frodo was still alive and that Tolkien wouldn't have sent Sam across if there as no hope to be able to live with Frodo for at least a little while.

And I'm sorry to appear ignorant, but which is Gandalf's immortal line?

Feanor of the Peredhil · 07-05-2005, 08:38 AM

When else, my doves, but Boromir's last minute redemption and subsequent death? The song following had me weeping prettily (I couldn't sob, or I wouldn't have been able to read, and what's more important?). I mean... Boromir was such a nice guy, and it's not like it was his fault he wasn't emotionally stable enough to be near a power of evil unlike anything he had ever known.

Essex · 07-05-2005, 09:21 AM

gandalf's immortal line, and the penultimate spoken words in LOTR

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Well, here at last, dear friends, on the shores of the Sea comes the end of our fellowship in Middle-earth. Go in peace! I will not say: do not weep; for not all tears are an evil.

Folwren · 07-05-2005, 10:51 AM

Thank you, Essex, I half guessed that was it.

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Originally Posted by Feanor of the Peredhil

When else, my doves, but Boromir's last minute redemption and subsequent death? The song following had me weeping prettily (I couldn't sob, or I wouldn't have been able to read, and what's more important?). I mean... Boromir was such a nice guy, and it's not like it was his fault he wasn't emotionally stable enough to be near a power of evil unlike anything he had ever known.

First couple times I read it that part had me crying, too. I'm glad to hear that you like Boromir - so many people don't.

07-03-2005, 09:35 PM	#1
Kitanna Child of the West Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Watching President Fillmore ride a unicorn Posts: 2,132	I always found Theoden's death to be a truly sad part. But never to the point of tears on my part. However when Sam believes Frodo is dead, well that is just powerful literature. Sam is so broken up and in the course of the books we come to know and love Sam and feel his pain at this. And of course the Grey Havens. It's the end of the novel, it's the end of Gandalf, Bilbo, and Frodo's life in Middle-Earth. And finally Sam must say good-bye to Frodo. So sad. __________________ "Let us live so that when we come to die even the undertaker will be sorry." - Mark Twain

07-03-2005, 09:46 PM	#2
mormegil Maundering Mage Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,651	Both in movie and books the Grey Havens get me choked up but not really crying. Another is when Frodo takes the task upon himself and Elrond compares him to other mortals such as Hurin, Turin and Beren. That is extremely emotionally. Finally a third I can remember that gets me choked up is when Samwise carries Frodo up Mt. Doom...I just love that little guy. __________________ “I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo. "So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”

07-04-2005, 02:59 AM	#3
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	No one has yet mentioned the part that always makes me cry: in Cirith Ungol, when Gollum is like a hobbit again for a few frail moments and as Sam awakes it's gone forever. And many times I've cried when the rohirrim enter the battle of Pelennor fields. (Well that's not due to grief... ) __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

07-05-2005, 08:38 AM	#8
Feanor of the Peredhil La Belle Dame sans Merci Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: perpetual uncertainty Posts: 5,517	When else, my doves, but Boromir's last minute redemption and subsequent death? The song following had me weeping prettily (I couldn't sob, or I wouldn't have been able to read, and what's more important?). I mean... Boromir was such a nice guy, and it's not like it was his fault he wasn't emotionally stable enough to be near a power of evil unlike anything he had ever known. __________________ peace

07-04-2005, 02:59 AM	#4
Essex Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Essex, England Posts: 886	sam singing his song when he had lost all hope at the top of the tower at cirith ungol merry asking pippin "are you going to bury me?" after his battle with the WK gandalf meeting up with the hobbits and commenting on Merry " He should have been borne in honour into the city" eowyn saying to eomer that merry should becomae a knight of the riddermark. pippin being 'killed' at the gates of mordor (well, the first time I read it I thought he was - I still remember laying in bed in my little bedroom as a kid reading the scene for the first time late at night - I burst into tears) - but when I saw him serving drinks and food to sam and frodo on the field of cormallen I was overjoyed! aragorn getting down on his knee and praising Frodo and Sam on the field of cormallen the grey havens of course, and Gandalf's immortal line. and even the APPENDICIES! the tale of the years, and the ongoing events of the fellowship - when aragorn was laid to rest, and it was said that the "beds of Meriadoc and Pergrin were set beside the bed of the great king" gets me welling up every time I read it.