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Old 07-04-2005, 12:06 PM   #1
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I'm sorry to have confused you all with my last post, I seem to have gotten rather carried away with my characterization. I shall refrain from doing so in the future. Firefoot and Feanor, the reason I took the "why would you accuse me?" approach was probably through sheer inexperience. I've never had to fend off the invasion of wolves as you two have, and so it seems I have stumbled.


Fea, those who know me would laugh to hear you call me "subtle." As Firefoot pointed out, my first post was a painfully obvious "Me? Of course it's not little old me. You have absolutely no reason to vote for me." sort of post. It worries me to see you calling that subtle. I know your first accusation of me was random and that my reply was only so much theatrics, but this new accusation seem suspicious. Only a wolf would call such a weak defense as mine subtle.

I think we shound watch Feanor, but to vote for her today would be rediculous, as Gil-Galad already seems headed for the noose. He seems rather suspicious to me, so I believe I will cast my vote in that direction too. ++ Gil-Galad

Edit: Cross posted with Kath. The reason I haven't posted much is because I've been kept away by family, computer troubles (stupid Windows 98!) and sleep. That's all I can tell you.
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Old 07-04-2005, 12:58 PM   #2
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More in sorrow......

Dusk was falling and though many villagers seemed undecided and some had slunk away, something had to be done to protect the village from the menace that haunted them.

A group of villagers surrounded the village's wealthiest resident. Some were jealous no doubt of his money and saw a chance for revenge, others might have found his strange speech and garb unforgivably odd. Or perhaps they all genuinely believed him to be guilty.

Someone removed the hanging basket from the village Gallows (Midsomer Mawlin had been runner up in "Britain in Bloom"'s tiny and peculiar village category the previous year. Another fetched the noose that had been found around Mithalwen's neck.

"Holy Hangmen - I'm innocent " blustered the caped crusader, but his pleas were in vain - the group was determined enough to overwhelm him yet he struggled manfully agianst them. "Biff!" "Kapow!!!!". But it was not enough. The noose was around his neck. The compact and bijou mob let his body fall. Gil-Galad struggled but at last his body relaxed in death.

The villagers looked in a strange mixture of horror and embarrassment. Gil-Galad might have been eccentric but , holy miscarriages of justices guys, he was no werewolf.


Day one ends with the death of the innocent Gil Galad. Night2 lasts until 8pm tomorrow night unless all necessary information is received before then. Please check the notice board..
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Old 07-05-2005, 12:06 PM   #3
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The villagers had slunk off to bed soon after they had realised their terrible mistake but were roused after a few short hours by strange noises.

"Whhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Booom, wheeeeeeeeeeeee, crack"

The villagers emerged bleary eyed from their houses to see a firework display of particular magnificence erupting over the tiny village.

"Great " someone said ," We could use some cheering up after yesterday "
"Oooooooooh " and "Ahhhhhh" said everyone obediently as the fireworks exploded in showers of Red and...... well red mainly.

"And there is even a barbecue" pointed out someone as the smell of charred flesh filled the air. Then with horror they realised it was not coming from a barbecue but from the sky ... and the smell was more nauseating than appetising. As dawn broke they realised someone was missing (apart from Sophia the Thunder Mistress who had unexpectedly been away from the village at the time of the flood and would not be able to return...) . They went to Oddwen's charming cottage, small and found nothing of the maiden save rather a lot of blood. On the kitchen table were sharp knives, a large empty box labled Fireworks. Rather disturbingly on the floor were four distinct sets of bloody pawprints but unfortunately none were found outside the house.

"Holy hand grenades" said a familiar but unexpected voice "An aerial funeral"

"Gil Galad" said the villagers

"So it would appear"

"But you're .... we..err "

"Indeed "

"But how "


"Well.................."

Option A

Gil Galad walked out of the shower this morning to find that the events of the previous night had been a dream.

Option B

Gil-Galad had used his fantastic wealth to clone himeself

Option C

Gil Galad had slipped through a warp in the space-time continuum facilitated by an omnipotent moderator who felt guilty about the ambiguous voting rules and needed to make up the numbers.

Option D

Gil galad is is a Time Lord

Option E

The execution was bungled and Gil Galad escaped


Option F

It is in fact GIl Galad's long lost identical twin

Option G

"I am no longer Gil Galad the grey but Gil-Galad the White, sent back for a while..and wherever I have been I am back!"

Take your pick.

Villagers dead:

Mithalwen - moderator comprehensively killed by Werewolves Night 1
Gil Galad (Incarnation 1) - lynched by a small mob on Day 1
Oddwen - Chopped and loaded into fireworks by werewolves on Night 2

Villagers living

Holbytlass
mormegil
The guy who be short
Kath
Gil-Galad (2nd Incarnation)
Orominuialwen
Firefoot
Durelin
Kitanna
Nilpaurion Felagund
Feanor of the Peredhil

Wolves 4
Villagers 7


Day begins now. All PMs should cease. Day ends at 7pm tomorrow unless someone gets 6 votes.

If at 7pm tomorrow noone has gained 6 votes, the person with the most votes will be lynched as long as the uncast votes are not enought to change the result. If there is a tie one will be picked at random. If this does not get a result we move on to semi random selection from a wider population.

I will make a ballot and people will get tickets for: a not posting, b, not voting, c, for attracting the votes of players.

Basically you will not be at risk if you have posted and voted,as long as you have not been voted for.

You will have more chances to win a trip to the gallows if you don't post, don't vote and get voted for.

This is as fair as I can make it. I made everyone aware that I expected a reasonable degree of participation at get go.

It is in your interests to post and vote.
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Old 07-05-2005, 12:15 PM   #4
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I've always found it helpful to post the Day's voting and glean from it any knowledge we can. This list is in order of who voted for who.

Mormegil voted Kath
Gil-Galad(1) voted Holbytlass
Firefoot voted Orominuralwen
Feanor voted Gil-Galad
Holbytlass voted Gil-Galad
The Guy Who Be Short (TGWBS) voted Gil-Galad
Kitanna voted Gil-Galad
Kath voted Orominuralwen
Orominuralwen voted Gil-Galad

Did not vote
Durelin
Oddwen
Sophia (New Gil)
Niparurion
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Old 07-05-2005, 01:27 PM   #5
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Four wolves now? Ouch...

So, let's see. If I had to pick four suspects out of our list, I guess they would be: Oro, Holbytlass, Kitanna, and... undecided. Since our 4th wolf wasn't a wolf yesterday, we unfortunately will only have evidence to the contrary. This also means that no one is on my "in-the-clear" list anymore.

Oro - this is largely gut instinct, as I stated before: "is taking the wounded innocent approach. "Me? Of course it's not little old me. You have absolutely no reason to vote for me." Etc. That raises my suspicion quicker than just about anything else."

Holbytlass - seemed to be doing a pretty good job of deflecting accusations in other ways when she was accused. This does not necessarily indicate a wolf, but her posts don't sit right with me. I'm teeter-tottering on whether I think she is a wolf or not.

Kitanna - in the start, she didn't post anything of any real substance, though sometimes she jumped on and echoed other's accusations. Towards the end of the day she finally posted some opinions but didn't really say anything new. This may or may not be evidence of a wolf.

All of this is slim evidence. In fact, I doubt I'd be convinced if someone else wrote this. But I'll put it out there for discussion anyway, and hopefully I'll gleen some new information today, about these three and the rest of you.

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Here she must have said something about a werewolf that frightened them into giving her a rather explosive end. Who did she suggest was a werewolf here? Only mormegil and Firefoot.
And I will still maintain that it doesn't make sense for a wolf to kill a) someone who directly implied their guilt during the day or b) someone the wolf accused of being guilty that day. Criteria a) leads me to doubt that mormegil is a wolf. Using criteria b), TGWBS and Fea are probably innocent.
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Old 07-05-2005, 01:42 PM   #6
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We must also remember the potential for double-bluffing. The way I see it is this:

Oddwen was very quiet.
Oddwen had mild suspicions but didn't really have any major impact on how things happened.
Oddwen was a very minor presence yesterday.

Now, this makes me thing Oddwen was killed because she was quiet and not casting accusations. So the wolves want all us "loudmouths" to stay alive, as we are casting accusations, but wrongly.

This would imply that most of those presently being accused are infact innocent.

Only a theory, but one I would like to beseriously considered. At the moment, my thought is bent most on Oro and Durelin.

Edit: additional thoughts.

Kitanna is also suspicious - I noticed the lack of substance of her posts before.

It is interesting to note that Oddwen didn't accuse anybody majorly in that main post of hers. Rather, it was a defence of most of us - doubtless including the wolves, who I think want to hide behind it. "An innocent said we seemed innocent too. She had no ulterior motives." That kind of thing.

Edit II: I notice that Oddwen only really accused Firefoot, who I think is likely to be innocent as she has many of the same feelings as me. I think the wolves are most likely trying to frame her.

Edit III:
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Concerning suspicions about Firefoot, she strangely voted for Oro
Strangely? A strange vote for Oro? I see defensive language. This support seems like some sort of alliance. I'm most tempted to believe in a Oro/durelin wolvish alliance, with Kitanna possibly on the side.

Edit IV:

Just so it is clear:

Greatest suspicions:
Orominuialwen
durelin

Some suspicion:
Kitanna
Nilpaurion felagund

Probably innocent:
mormegil
Kath
Firefoot
Feanor of the Peredhil

Don't know:
Gil-Galad
Holbytlass

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Old 07-05-2005, 03:25 PM   #7
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Old 07-05-2005, 03:34 PM   #8
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Well so Gil dead but reincarnated and now Oddwen slaughtered in the night - not a happy village at the moment.

So, who voted for Gil - Fea, Holbytlass, TGWBS, Kitanna and Oro. I've a couple of choices for most suspicious here. TGWBS was pretty vocal in his pursuit of Gil for reasons that I still find to be inconclusive. Kitanna though I feel wary of as well as she posted very little during the day and then stuck in a vote that she knew was safe, or at least likely to be.

I'm still unsure over Mormegil. Yesterday I was very suspicious of him because of his going after Gil who I thought to be innocent. Then he starts going on about a Kath/Gil alliance (now proven to be an unfounded belief) and votes for me. This sudden shift is confusing me somewhat but I'll have to think on that one.

I am becoming very suspicious of Durelin but for no good reason. Just something about her seems wrong.

Anyway please feel free to proclaim your innocence all of you, I'll see who I believe.
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Holbytlass - seemed to be doing a pretty good job of deflecting accusations in other ways when she was accused. This does not necessarily indicate a wolf, but her posts don't sit right with me. I'm teeter-tottering on whether I think she is a wolf or not.

And I will still maintain that it doesn't make sense for a wolf to kill a) someone who directly implied their guilt during the day or b) someone the wolf accused of being guilty that day.
The only major accusation I received was from Gil1, and it was easy to deflect his reasoning of the vote for me because it was not correct or made sense.
Any other 'deflecting' isn't because, for instance, Firefoot's suspicions of me are based on how she doesn't necessarily like how I post. There's not alot I can do about that.

I voted early on for Gil1 and most people might agree with me that he brought it upon himself. I was and still am innocent.

I do agree with Firefoot's second quoted statement. At this stage wolves most likely will not kill someone who is tied to them in accustions, suspicions or votes.
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it was not correct or made sense..
a little bit Presumptious eh Holbytlass?
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Alas

Poor Oddwen. I shall go back and analyse what she has said later to find a possible motive for her murder.

Now, Gil-Galad the Grey. I accept I was largely responsible for the lynching. While I do feel bad he was innocent, I'm not apologising for it. He was confusing, and I think it's advantageous to have him dead early.

It seems he has reincarnated though. Ah well.

Our main concern is that we now have four wolves. It is very much in our interests to debate long and hard before any voting takes place.
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Our main concern is that we now have four wolves. It is very much in our interests to debate long and hard before any voting takes place.
Agreed. I find suspcious those who either did not vote or made votes at critical times for known innocents.
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Old 07-05-2005, 12:19 PM   #13
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My word...it ees getting quite - do I dare say it? - erm, explosive around here... Poor Oddwen...those whose suspicions were upon her should change their tune a bit, I think. Her two posts did her in, it seems...perhaps we should bare in mind her last words, as they were the words of innocence.

And now I may respond to this...

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Brash words breed brash responses, of which knowledge can be gained. His only post contains that tomfoolery within it. Note also, only one post - under the radar, anybody? I am most suspicious of him after The Big Three, though perhaps this is only a knee-jerk reaction.
I appreciate that you acknowledged my existence, but excuse me while I say I am in fact female, though my alter-ego does enjoy cross-dressing. And we all know that werewolves don't cross-dress.

Along with cross-dressing comes cross-posting, it seems...

Both the guy who be short and mormegil were very quick in their responses...it's interesting that they jumped on the case so quickly, while it takes most of us a little longer to get out of bed. Perhaps they did not sleep well last night, due to...*coughs* 'celebrating'?

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My sincerest apologies, Durelin.

I think the two best things we can do now are:

1) Go back over people's responses to G-G's posts, as he was a knwn innocent.

2) Go back over Oddwen's posts and fnd a possible reason she was killed.


I am a little busy at the moment, but shall return in a few hours, hopefully. If not, consider me to be napping, please.

Now, I need a Shortie Snack.
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Going over earlier posts, I've found mormegil to be increasingly suspicious. He was among those that first began suggesting that Gil-galad may be guilty. And, he ended up voting for Kath, who was one of the few who suggested that he might be a werewolf. Oddwen, who we know to be innocent, is another person who accused him of being a member of the guilty party.

Though, the guy who be short originally placed Oddwen on his 'top three' list, and placed two others randomly on that list. And we have yet to see if either of them are in fact guilty or innocent.

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Holbytlass - Nothing definite.

Mormegil - His/Her profession of prior knowledge of mysterious chemicals is a shock to us all, I do think. What this will portend I don't know.

The guy who be short - Hum, hum, hum...he probably would have eaten our dear Mithalwen, so I don't really think so yet.

Gil-Galad - Whoa, dude, settle down. Believe me, being too vocal is a terrible stnank.

Orominuialwen - Hasn't shown up on the radar yet.

Firefoot - It could very well have been Miss Firefoot in the Parlor with the Rope. And the Knife.

Durelin - Few of my suspicions are belong to you.

Kitanna - Hmm...nothing yet.

Nilpaurion "I-Take-Immense-Pleasure-In-Professing-Hairy-Lies" Felagund - My incredibly..."done by me" suspicious feelings have yet to be stimulated.

Feanor of the Peredhil - I'm not so suspicious of her yet., another person on that list that I believe to be innocent.
Here she must have said something about a werewolf that frightened them into giving her a rather explosive end. Who did she suggest was a werewolf here? Only mormegil and Firefoot.

Concerning suspicions about Firefoot, she strangely voted for Oro, who Kath voted for, and who Fea was leaning towards, and who the guy who be short has suggested seems guilty because of her quietness.

I think Kitanna seems strangely quiet, personally. That, of course, does not necessarily mean anything...nor does any of the above. All is just speculation, and I of course will not be voting any time soon. More time is needed to figure things out, and I need to study other people's records. So I will be back with more speculation for everyone to think about later...

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Here she must have said something about a werewolf that frightened them into giving her a rather explosive end. Who did she suggest was a werewolf here? Only mormegil and Firefoot.
Sadly Oddwen voted for nobody. So while she voiced mild suspicions seemingly her convictions weren't sufficient to vote. Now Durelin you are wise in your discussion here. I see that you have not narrowed you view solely to Firefoot and me. I think we all need to look at everyone's behavior and assess their guilt and innocence.

Oddwen said of me

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Mormegil - His/Her profession of prior knowledge of mysterious chemicals is a shock to us all, I do think. What this will portend I don't know
I pointed out later that the characterization given to us by our mod are not meant to cast suspicion on participants. The person who I was characterized merely takes potions in school and was included in the story here. At the beginning I jested with TGWBS about his but I did not draw serious suspicion based on that.
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