The Midsummer Maulings (WW5)

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Anybody here not of the opinion that if we rush today and screw up, the wolves win?

[the guy who be short]

I'm not rushing people. I'm asking a question. Kath is highest on many people's suspect lists, and is likely the mytho-thing. There's been suspicion of this from early on.

Certainly I don't intend to vote until we have heard from all villagers, or until it is reasonably late, but until then I'm willing to wait. Unless anybody has hugely compelling evidence though, I'm pretty certain which way my vote is going.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

I'm going to assume (reasonably, I hope) that Nilp is currently asleep. Gil is AWOL. Kath is... well, she's mentioned that she's sick, so that might be why she's not around. No idea about Oromin.

What I've been waiting this whole game for is a lengthy post from Gil-Galad. I hope I don't wait in vain.

[Kath]

Kath is here (at last). Yes Fea illness, idiotic field trips and also computer problems kept me away so apologies.

TGWBS I am of the opinion that I should not die today! And I wanted to mention something about your mytho idea. If I were this person why are you so certain that I would have become a wolf? To the best of my knowledge the mythomane was allowed to choose the person they wanted to turn into. Since I did not know who was a wolf and who an innocent on the first day then if I were the mytho and made this choice I would have a higher chance of staying an ordinary, ungifted, innocent villager.

Now, there is little point in proclaiming my innocence. I have already done that before and it will just be seen as an excuse. So instead I'll just talk about the person I have some concerns about at the moment - TGWBS.

Yes Firefoot ended the day defending you and accusing me but in my mind this is a sign of an incredibly cunning wolf. What better way to protect yourself than to hide behind someone who never raised an ounce of suspicion and was widely believed by everyone to be completely innocent. TGWBS supported every decision she made, never explaining his own reasons for suspecting people, just piggybacking on those of Firefoot. This strikes me as a little odd. Of course he has made such a case against me that it is unlikely anyone will trust a word I say but if anyone has any doubts then I ask that you please watch out for TGWBS. He is rushing people to vote, in my opinion to prevent them from having time to form their own ideas, and to make them afraid to vote against his suspects.

[the guy who be short]

Originally Posted by Kath

And I wanted to mention something about your mytho idea. If I were this person why are you so certain that I would have become a wolf? To the best of my knowledge the mythomane was allowed to choose the person they wanted to turn into. Since I did not know who was a wolf and who an innocent on the first day then if I were the mytho and made this choice I would have a higher chance of staying an ordinary, ungifted, innocent villager.

Notice how the number of wolves magically changed from three to four, dear?

Originally Posted by Kath

TGWBS supported every decision she made, never explaining his own reasons for suspecting people, just piggybacking on those of Firefoot.

I remember doing this once, in the accusation of you. Any more? Quotes? No?

Originally Posted by Kath

He is rushing people to vote, in my opinion to prevent them from having time to form their own ideas, and to make them afraid to vote against his suspects.

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Originally Posted by Me

I'm not rushing people. I'm asking a question... Certainly I don't intend to vote until we have heard from all villagers, or until it is reasonably late [in the Day].

Why would I want to make people afraid to vote against my suspects anyway? Surely I'd want them to support me...

Congratulations. What a terribly interesting post.

[Kath]

Notice how the number of wolves magically changed from three to four, dear?

I hate to admit utter stupidity but no, I really didn't think of that . Well, at least I know where that idea came from now!

I'm afraid I have no quotes from previous pages due to computer troubles (which I would explain but it would take a lot of space and remove us from this dimension slightly).

I apparently cross-posted with you as I didn't see you say that you weren't rushing people. Which I still don't agree with. You were rushing people but then you were called on it and stopped, presumably to try and protect yourself from any suspicion.

Why would I want to make people afraid to vote against my suspects anyway? Surely I'd want them to support me...

This sentence does not make sense. Yes you want people to support you, you want them to vote for who you say so that they don't vote for you. Therefore you push your points and your ideas so that others do not wish to vote differently to you because you will cry "Wolf!" if they do. Making people afraid to vote against you would mean they had to support you.

[the guy who be short]

Originally Posted by ath

I'm afraid I have no quotes from previous pages due to computer troubles (which I would explain but it would take a lot of space and remove us from this dimension slightly).

Not to worry, I shall go back and analyse everything Firefoot and I said yesterday. Expect a post containing surprisingly little in it soon.

Originally Posted by Kath

You were rushing people but then you were called on it and stopped, presumably to try and protect yourself from any suspicion.

Please explain. Asking whether there is anybody in the entire village that trusts you is rushing... how? Not voting until I was sure of consensus is rushing how? Rushing would be something like jumping on morm yesterday. If I wanted to rush, I'm sure I could have voted for you and garnered quite a lot of support initially.

Originally Posted by Kath

you want them to vote for who you say so that they don't vote for you.

Well done.

Originally Posted by Kath

Therefore you push your points and your ideas so that others do not wish to vote differently to you because you will cry "Wolf!" if they do.

Pushing my points is merely my duty to the village. I am willing to consider other viewpoints and other evidence indicating other villagers, though I will now almost definitely be voting for you, support or no.
If others vote differently to me, I shall certainly be drawing conclusions, and certainly if you end up guilty. I will delay my cries of "Wolf!" to the morrow.

Originally Posted by Kath

Making people afraid to vote against you would mean they had to support you.

In a village of three, perhaps.

Please enlighten us - how exactly did you think a fourth wolf appeared?

Coming soon, an analysis of the extent to which Firefoot and I supported one another.