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Old 07-12-2005, 11:50 AM   #1
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TGWBS I am now either convinced that you are innocent or are in league with Oromin. I'm inclined to believe in you innocence.
Huh? Morm, where do you get this? Oro has not posted, and TGWBS has not even mentioned her - and she is one of several people he has not mentioned.
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Old 07-12-2005, 11:53 AM   #2
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Huh? Morm, where do you get this? Oro has not posted, and TGWBS has not even mentioned her - and she is one of several people he has not mentioned.
I gauged his reaction to my proposal and found him likely to be innocent.
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Old 07-12-2005, 11:54 AM   #3
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Firefoot - Morm wanted to "randomly" lynch Oro. I'm opposed to this plan of "random" lynching.

Edit: Morm, if your plan was simply to gauge reaction, why didn't you continue and gauge more people's reactions? Why stop at one person!?
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Old 07-12-2005, 12:01 PM   #4
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Okay, I get it now.
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Old 07-12-2005, 12:04 PM   #5
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hunter and shirriffs to be important they are not nearly as important as the ranger
Now wait a minute morm could we have an explanation for this please? The hunter is very important, when they die they can take one person with them. Now the way they have to do this is to choose a name, one person, who they believe to be a wolf. It would be beneficial to the village then for the hunter to remain under wraps until they are certain of a wolf so that if they are lynched or killed by the wolves they can take one of them with them. The ranger can protect one villager and at that not more than once in a row. So even if they somehow guessed the Seer and protected them one night they would be unable to do this again and the wolves might get the Seer the next night. To me the hunter seems to have the more important role.

Also, since your accusation of Oro was based on nothing more than the random picking of a number how can you lump someone else in with them?
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Old 07-12-2005, 12:08 PM   #6
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You can judge this to be 'siding' with a particular person (as the debate currently stands) but I don't care; I see no suspicious behaviour thus far, and I fear that some of you are beginning to go off on the wrong tangent.

Remember that it's very easy to see another person as a wolf once you get the idea into your head. Take a step back and look at what you're doing.
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Kath in many ways the Hunter can be more of a liability at this stage especially. I clearly said I do not want them killed but the Seer and Ranger are far more important to our survivability. I explained my lumping TGWBS and Oromin earlier but his reactions gave me some insight.
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Holbytlass, LMP did not say that the Seer should remain utterly silent. He simply meant "don't openly declare youself," I believe.

I re-iterate: I only defended Oro due to the odds. There is a 50% chance of her being gifted, as compared to a 25% chance of her being a wolf.

Eomer, be reassured. I have not yet classed anybody as a wolf. Though interrogation must be performed...
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Old 07-12-2005, 12:18 PM   #9
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One warning I would like to give, is that I want some substance on a daily basis from everybody. They don't need to be loud and obnoxious like me but a minimum of one post a day of something more than one sentence. I feel that being too quiet doesn't contribute at all and wolves are able to hide very easily among quiet villagers.
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Old 07-12-2005, 12:31 PM   #10
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I'm looking forward to tomorrow morning when I should be able to name and shame at least two werewolves. And you should all trust me, for the King hisself has invited me to perform music at his palace not three weeks from today; and as we should all realise, accomplices of royalty are of the utmost integrity.

tgwbs, you are completely correct: everyone must be interrogated. So: what were you doing last night? (<- detective hat) I heard from one of my reliable sources (the friendly bluebird) that you were out for a gander late at night. A bit unusual, yes? Let him speak! I hope you were only nightswimming m'boy; I'd hate to have to hang you.

Nilp and that Lhunatic have different sleeping habits from most of us; the perfect alibi to escape mob interrogation. A bit....too perfect if you ask me. Yes, interesting, verily. A bit.....too interesting if you ask me.

Yes... *strokes chin*

I'd like to hear more from Lionel Hutz, uh...I mean, Saurreg, but I guess we'll have to wait until the morn for that, he living away on the East side of town.
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I'm looking forward to tomorrow morning when I should be able to name and shame at least two werewolves. And you should all trust me,
Does anyone else find this odd? It does intrigue me to hear what he has to say, but isn't this a bit forward in saying he is the seer? A seer has dreams, not advance knowledge of who they are going to dream about.
Either Eomer is trying to lure the wolves after him tonight and not a gifted villager, a noble thing to do or he is trying to get the ranger to protect him so that while the ranger is busy protecting him, he and his wily pack can kill off any one they choose.
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Holbytlass, LMP did not say that the Seer should remain utterly silent. He simply meant "don't openly declare youself," I believe.
OH, DUH!!

One thing that won't work for us if the 3 ungifted villagers are lynched right of way, there is less people for the wolves to figure out who might be who, since the 3 wolves know who they are then we've taken out 3 ordinary villagers that just leaves 6 people for the wolves to study the posts making it easier for them to figure out.
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But, Holbytlass, if we can't lynch a wolf, wouldn't it be better to lynch an ungifted villager than a gifted one? It would definitely be very bad to lose our Seer or Ranger; we want the hunter alive until they're sure of someone's guilt; the Shirriffs, while I wouldn't say that they're as important as the other three, are certainly more useful than the regular innocents; the Mytho could go either way, depending on what role s/he takes on. If we don't catch a wolf, I would certainly rather that we take an ordinary villager.
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tgwbs, you are completely correct: everyone must be interrogated. So: what were you doing last night? (<- detective hat) I heard from one of my reliable sources (the friendly bluebird) that you were out for a gander late at night. A bit unusual, yes? Let him speak! I hope you were only nightswimming m'boy; I'd hate to have to hang you.
I was indeed out for a gander, and I will not deny it. Who can deny the palates of the stomach? The gander was delicious, I assure you, served by a master chef at a nearby village. I could eat an entire family of geese served up by him.

Now, I'll not deny that my night-time gander is an odd habit, but it's perfectly safe, I assure you. No lycanthropy for me. I was too stuffed full of goose to eat an innocent lass like Feanor.
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Old 07-12-2005, 01:22 PM   #15
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Firefoot, that's perfectly true, however, the importance of the ordinary villager is to cover the gifted by sheer numbers. We just don't have enough in this village. Sure we could just lynch ordinary innocents for the first two days (definitely better than the gifted) but that doesn't leave much cover for the gifted and the seer has a good enough chance of being killed the third night or maybe one night more due to the wolves figuring out who is who.
Unless, the seer wants to proclaim themselves on the third night, the ranger protect them that night and we would have 3 dreams and 2 lynches prooving peoples innocence thus narrowing down who the wolves are (assuming the seer didn't dream of a wolf). I realize this has as many holes as swiss cheese, the ranger might have happened to guard the seer the night before and therefore couldn't do it again, or the people the seer dreamt about might be the ones we've already lynched. Anyway, those are my thoughts.
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Old 07-12-2005, 01:11 PM   #16
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So ya don't like me plan? Big deal. See if I care.

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Yer all women in trousers anyways.

Now Eomer I don' like you as playin' so many games wit' me head. Wut is you? King's messenger? You dress the fop enough fer it.

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I'm trackin' what all you say, so watch it. See?

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All right, who's gonna help me carry these pieces of the by gone moddess goddess off to where she ain't such a wrong kind of sight? Don' all step forward at once.

By the by, it's way stinkin' too early to tell anything about anybody yet. 'Ceptin' Eomer's a fop, Morm's a loudmouth, guy's ana - um - ana - um - smart, Holby's tryin' to figger out which way is up, Firefoot looks clean as I'm filthy, and Oro's against random picking. I'm aginst it too. You know my plan. I won' keep harpin' it. Random's stoopid though.
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Old 07-12-2005, 01:20 PM   #17
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LMP, my good, er, man... please address these parts of your plan:

1) We can't look at voting records to deduce wolves.
2) We eliminate that small chance of getting a wolf.
3) Gifted Villies will die anyway. At night, it is almost certain. At Day, well, we'd run out eventually.
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Old 07-12-2005, 01:27 PM   #18
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What's a fop? If you're commenting on my rather superb attire then I must say Guilty as charged. If the werewolves have any class then they'll leave such a prim and proper gentleman such as myself well alone.

*sniff*

*adjusts hat*

Firefoot, we can lynch a wolf. Let's stop all this talk of killing our own.

tgwbs, interesting habit you have there. Goose is quite superb when you can get it.

I'll speak to you all later.
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Old 07-12-2005, 11:33 PM   #19
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Just a thought...by lynching an innocent during the Day, don't we increase the chance of the werewolves killing a gifted by Night?
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