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La Belle Dame sans Merci
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I've thought of an all-important question: what is the nationality of the guy who wrote this tutorial? Because I'm having trouble with pronunciation and when I read the words he gives (examples being "for" and box" to help with [size=2]ó) it occurs to me that I pronounce the "o"s in those words differently. But then it occured to me that to try and explain the differences would make zilch sense to an English English speaker.[/size]
I mean... for me, "box" rhymes with "rocks". But since I'm sure it does also for all of you, it's a bad example. The best way of stating the difference is that "box" sounds like "bah-ks" whereas "for" sounds like "foe-er". And these are two very different sounds. Ah versus oh. So... is [size=2]ó ah or oh? And then there's those darned follow up sentences. I say the words he gives aloud several times, finally think I've got it right, and the next sentence proceeds to tell me that under no circumstances should I be saying it like that. [/size]
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Everlasting Whiteness
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So basically Fea, you're screwed unless you can get an audio version of how these thigs are supposed to be said.
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La Belle Dame sans Merci
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You got that right. Nevertheless, on I plod.
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Everlasting Whiteness
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Didn't someone on one of the thread actually have an audio version? It might have been on this but it might have been on the original sign-up thread.
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"H is pronounced [x] (German ach-Laut) before t, unless this combination ht is preceded by one of the vowels e or i, in which case h is sounded like German ich-Laut. Otherwise, h may be pronounced like English h; the digraphs hy and hw however represent ich-Laut and unvoiced w (like American English wh), respectively. The combinations hl and hr originally represented unvoiced l, r, but by the Third Age, these sounds had come to be pronounced like normal l and r. " And some audio samples for the assiduous student. Examples: thúle (archaic), silme, formen, halla, aha, Mahtan, tehta, hyarmen, hwestaps. Lhuna and I are moving on to the exercises of lesson 2. We're catching up!
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Last edited by dancing spawn of ungoliant; 07-23-2005 at 11:10 AM. |
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La Belle Dame sans Merci
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Thanks Spawn.
Since our meet-up time got screwed up last week (she had to work and I had to play ) Encai and I are doubling up today on lessons one and two. So we're catching up also.
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Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Thulcandra
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Tolkien Speaketh!
I'm quite wary of external sources 'n' courses, as I think the Ardalambion course is best researched. Feel free to do so yourself, though.
Now, I have found a recording of Tolkien reciting the Namarie poem. You can save it to your computer, it is free, and the best imaginable source of information of pronunciation! Enjoy.
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