Tol-in-Gaurhoth VII (The Saga goes ever on and on) - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Kath · 07-25-2005, 03:27 PM

Just to move away from plans to lynch people for a moment, I would like to request that someone clear up the general confusion surrounding the role of the cobbler. I read the explanation in Firefoot's original post and I'm still not clear on what they actually do. Morm I think I remember liked the role, does he know what it entails?

wilwarin538 · 07-25-2005, 03:32 PM

the cobbler confuses me to. It sounds like they're on the werewolf team but they aren't a werewolf, and they dont know who the werewolves are. The seer thinks its a normal villager. What's the point?

mormegil · 07-25-2005, 03:36 PM

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His job sucks so bad, he wants to die. The cobbler is on the werewolves team, but is not a werewolf! He doesnt know who the werewolves are, they dont know who he is. The game does not end in a situation where #(werewolves+ cobbler) >= #villagers. The cobbler looks like a villager to the seer. The cobbler is very interesting in that he actually doesnt mind being lynched in many cases, to protect a werewolf from dying. He can also create situations late in the game where he can form a voting block with the remaining werewolf and then block any lunchings from occurring. You can even have cases where the werewolf is trying to convince the cobbler that he is in fact a wolf, or that someone might fake being a cobbler to rat out who the wolf is, so they can then say they arent really a cobbler and lynch them!
Obviously, the cobbler is a strong addition to the werewolf team. I think its a great role for situations where having one more werewolf would be too strong, but without it the werewolves are screwed.

This is OOC but here's the officially given definition from our moderator on the original WW thread.

The Only Real Estel · 07-25-2005, 03:45 PM

So I guess we should just be looking for behavior along the lines of what I posted above?

wilwarin538 · 07-25-2005, 03:51 PM

I guess so Estel. I'm guessing this game can be confusing some times?

Firefoot · 07-25-2005, 04:08 PM

There seems to be a bit of confusion about the cobbler... I'll try to explain.

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It sounds like they're on the werewolf team but they aren't a werewolf, and they dont know who the werewolves are. The seer thinks its a normal villager. What's the point?

The cobbler's goal is to protect the wolves by generally taking suspicion on themselves and trying to cast suspicion away from the wolves (i.e., and onto villagers).

For example, say A, B, and C are wolves and D is the cobbler - if the cobbler is convincing, the villagers may think that B, C, and D are wolves but A is innocent. The cobbler is basically supposed to stir up some confusion as to who the real wolves are. This could get critical later in the game when one or two mistakes means the village is cooked (if the cobbler is still around, of course).

I realize that it's a confusing role, but I think you're all thinking too hard about it - probably because of the long explanation. The cobbler's goal is to protect the wolves. S/he is a "wolf-wannabe," as Fea described it; basically they try to act like wolves and be suspicious.

Okay?

07-25-2005, 03:27 PM	#1
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,533	Just to move away from plans to lynch people for a moment, I would like to request that someone clear up the general confusion surrounding the role of the cobbler. I read the explanation in Firefoot's original post and I'm still not clear on what they actually do. Morm I think I remember liked the role, does he know what it entails? __________________ “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.”

07-25-2005, 03:32 PM	#2
wilwarin538 Fluttering Enchantment Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,508	the cobbler confuses me to. It sounds like they're on the werewolf team but they aren't a werewolf, and they dont know who the werewolves are. The seer thinks its a normal villager. What's the point? __________________ Comme une étoile amarante Comme un papillon de nuit C'est la lumière qui m'attire La flamme qui m'éblouit Fenris Muffin

07-25-2005, 03:45 PM	#4
The Only Real Estel Raffish Rapscallion Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Far from the 'Downs, it seems :-( Posts: 2,835	So I guess we should just be looking for behavior along the lines of what I posted above? Last edited by The Only Real Estel; 07-25-2005 at 03:46 PM. Reason: spelling

07-25-2005, 03:51 PM	#5
wilwarin538 Fluttering Enchantment Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,508	I guess so Estel. I'm guessing this game can be confusing some times? __________________ Comme une étoile amarante Comme un papillon de nuit C'est la lumière qui m'attire La flamme qui m'éblouit Fenris Muffin