Tol-in-Gaurhoth VII (The Saga goes ever on and on) - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

dancing spawn of ungoliant · 07-26-2005, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by The Only Real Estel

Spawn: I had thought of Wilwa as possibly being a wolf because of the way she jumped at the chance to accuse Mromegil based on his earliest post but I'm thinking it was more of a 'someone has to cast the first stone' type of decision.

But why would a confused first timer want to cast the first stone?

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 07-26-2005, 09:13 AM

You intrigue me spawn: the butterfly might well be worth a gamble. I'll go back now and read all her posts.

Does anyone actually think that Nilp is a werewolf? I seriously doubt it. He voted for himself.

The Only Real Estel · 07-26-2005, 09:14 AM

Good question. I would assume a first timer would be more likely to jump at straws then vets, and she may not have been confused at first. I'm not sure actually, I'd love to here from her about this...

edit: cross-posting with Eomer

wilwarin538 · 07-26-2005, 09:23 AM

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Elf-warrior defended morm in his first post and so did wilwa. After twelve minutes wilwa said that she thinks mormegil's eagerness to kill is suspicious. It was like they had suddenly remembered that they were supposed to keep it schtum.

I was actually more agreeing with him then defending him.

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Wilwarin keeps repeating that she is confused (three times in a row). I think it's rather suspicious. "Oh, I couldn't be a wolf, I'm a first timer." Hmm...

The one time when I said I was confused it was because Guy I believe had a post that was very repetitive and I was just making a joke. The other time it was because I truly didn't understand the Cobbler's job. I don't remember what the third one was.

I will be voting soon. I have a feeling it might be for Morm, unless someone says something that changes my mind.

~Wilwa of the numbers aka Madame Butterfly

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 07-26-2005, 09:24 AM

Ok, I've read wilwa's posts and she doesn't really give me the chills. Her questioning of Morm was a nothing post, the kind of which we all make at the start of the DAY 1. Her most confusing post is actually #72, in which she seems baffled by the nature of what she calls 'random accusations'. Now, this strikes me as probably a youngster's naivety. The accusations are not really random wilwa; they are designed to gauge reactions.

wilwa then says she has a bad feeling about Morm and tgwbs. Here she offers completely random accusations. This would be a ridiculous thing for a wolf to do. She does not overly concern me.

It's still Mormegil and Fea who I'd like to hear from. I'll be here until voting is over so if you need me to repeat my pathetic accusations then I'll do it for you; it's the least you deserve!

dancing spawn of ungoliant · 07-26-2005, 09:32 AM

Wilwa, this was the third one: "I'm guessing this game can be confusing some times?"

The problem with Nilp is that he's just being himself and he could be anybody. I repeat, anybody. His behaviour is a perfect disguise no matter what he is.

I'll be back before the nightfall and I'll cast my vote then. I want to hear something from mormegil and Elf-warrior first.

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 07-26-2005, 09:37 AM

Fea is excused. See? I didn't really suspect you that much. And you made a good point about mirth being intrinsically linked to serious voting; I should know that better than anyone.

I'd love to hear from Morm soon. As it stands it seems Nilp is going to die anyway. Maybe it's for the best. I'll hopefully get to query Morm tomorrow even if he doesn't show up today. He's worth watching, in my view. His list of suspicion baffles me.

Edit to add: just saw morm's post. Will comment soon.

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 07-26-2005, 09:42 AM

I must announce that I have done Mormegil a disservice: he has indeed only mentioned The Elf-Warrior once. I was getting confused with something or other. For that I am sorry. It was an honest mistake. I'll try to find the source of this.

Hmm, I'll go back and think about your list Morm. I think you might be off the hook now.

Sorry, again.

Encaitare · 07-26-2005, 09:49 AM

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Encai simply gave a short post with little to go on. I'm not a fan of that. I like some substance.

Suspect me not, for I have been about, following the responses for a good part of the morning. It just so happened that my computer crapped out while I was replying. So here is what I was going to say:

Nilp makes me uneasy. He could just be messing with our heads, and I'm not familiar with strategies he may have used in the past. He quite frankly confuses me with his suicidal tendencies, so wolf or not, he ought to just get out of the way. If he were someone important who could help the villagers, then I don't think he'd act so reckless.

mormegil has been at the center of attention for a while, which makes me a wee bit suspicious.

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Originally Posted by Fea

Mormegil/Eomer/Kitanna as wolves. They all defend Mormegil.

This seems to make some sense to me at the moment, though Nilp remains at the top of my list. I'll be observing for a bit longer, and I'll get my vote in soon.

mormegil · 07-26-2005, 09:33 AM

Eomer, I am slightly confused when you say I repeatedly mention Elf-warrior. I could be wrong but I think I've only mentioned him once. However he was mentioned by others perhaps you are confused on that.

Anyway if I look suspicious to you lot that's fine. I just ask who will be doing your killing for you? I found Saurreg's vehemence at my accusation interesting. Durelin has posted some but not given much to go on (that's why I find you suspicious) and your recent post seem to solidify my suspicions of you. Trying to redirect suspision on he who cast it upon you.

Elf-warrior is acting similar to Durelin though I am less suspicious of him.

Encai simply gave a short post with little to go on. I'm not a fan of that. I like some substance.

My second list, I suspect them because they just don't seem to sit right with me. I'm not sure what that means but something to think about for me anyway.

Kitanna · 07-26-2005, 09:57 AM

So far:
Nilp
Himself
Fea
Saurreg
TGWBS

Morm
Durelin

TGWBS
Oddwen

Personally I think Nilp is just being himself and is innocent. As for Morm, well I'm always suspicious of that sneaky man. I defended his orignal blood lust because he is the town executioner, but I won't vote for him today. I'd rather watch him a little first. And the The Guy, well I'm suspicious of him too, but only for silly and pointless reasons. I'm suspicious of Fea for those same silly and pointless reasons.

Wilwa deserves watching. She may be hiding behind the first timer thing. But it is the first day and her confusion is relatively understandable. If her "confusion" continues well into Day 2 then I think we may have a wolf.

It seems Nilp is headed for the ax anyway. This is a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. We could lynch him and he could well be innocent, oops. Or we don't lynch him and he lives 'til the end and we villagers lose. But then again it could be vice versa. He's innocent, lives 'til the end we villagers win. Mmmmm, tough choice.

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Originally Posted by Fea

If we refrained from killing him because we assumed it impossible that a wolf would vote for himself, it would play into wolvish hands, should he have them.

I agree with Fea. So I must cast my vote.

++ Nilp

It seems your headed there anyway.

The Elf-warrior · 07-26-2005, 10:03 AM

Time is running out for me so I'll vote for
++TGWBS If you are not a wolf, sorry. See you all the next DAY.

littlemanpoet · 07-26-2005, 10:06 AM

If you think Nilp is innocent, then why bloody vote for him? Because you're a werewolf?

My prognostications inform me that Nilp is as innocent as the sky is blue, and that we must leave him alive long enough to see his endgame. Dare to go against the heavens, you miscreants!

Further prognostications inform me that Eomer, Morm, Wilwa, Spawn, and Saurreg are probably innocent. Eomer's endgame must be allowed to play out. Saurreg is a shirriff. Wait and see.

There are a few people who are hiding behind fair skin. I trust them not, nor do the stars.

++ the guy who be short

He is as wolfish as the day is long.

Feanor, say the heavens, may be a liar, but she can't help but make sense, at which times her words are trustworthy though dressed in dissembling.

So say the heavens. Demean and deplore them at your own risk.

Durelin · 07-26-2005, 09:24 AM

I do wish I could just lynch everyone...would be so much simpler and less confusing.

Estel's talked about how it's a 'shot in the dark' on the first day....and this time, Morm's the one in the dark getting shot in my metaphorical darkness with my metaphorical bullet.

++Mormegil

I have no idea....I just need to get back to my flowers. And he said I was suspicious, for no reason...so here's a reason for you to say I'm suspicious, deary.

I was really tempted to take up the 'everyone votes for themselves' plan, but Nilp's doing too well with that...didn't want to take away from his glory.

~Durelin not-a-wolf-but-more-like-the-hunter-or-seer-dead-header

07-26-2005, 09:13 AM	#2
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	You intrigue me spawn: the butterfly might well be worth a gamble. I'll go back now and read all her posts. Does anyone actually think that Nilp is a werewolf? I seriously doubt it. He voted for himself. __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

07-26-2005, 09:24 AM	#5
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	Ok, I've read wilwa's posts and she doesn't really give me the chills. Her questioning of Morm was a nothing post, the kind of which we all make at the start of the DAY 1. Her most confusing post is actually #72, in which she seems baffled by the nature of what she calls 'random accusations'. Now, this strikes me as probably a youngster's naivety. The accusations are not really random wilwa; they are designed to gauge reactions. wilwa then says she has a bad feeling about Morm and tgwbs. Here she offers completely random accusations. This would be a ridiculous thing for a wolf to do. She does not overly concern me. It's still Mormegil and Fea who I'd like to hear from. I'll be here until voting is over so if you need me to repeat my pathetic accusations then I'll do it for you; it's the least you deserve! __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

07-26-2005, 09:32 AM	#6
dancing spawn of ungoliant Mischievous Candle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: So near to Russia, so far from Japan, quite a long way from Cairo, lots of miles from Vietnam. Posts: 1,234	Wilwa, this was the third one: "I'm guessing this game can be confusing some times?" The problem with Nilp is that he's just being himself and he could be anybody. I repeat, anybody. His behaviour is a perfect disguise no matter what he is. I'll be back before the nightfall and I'll cast my vote then. I want to hear something from mormegil and Elf-warrior first. __________________ Fenris Wolf

07-26-2005, 09:42 AM	#8
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	I must announce that I have done Mormegil a disservice: he has indeed only mentioned The Elf-Warrior once. I was getting confused with something or other. For that I am sorry. It was an honest mistake. I'll try to find the source of this. Hmm, I'll go back and think about your list Morm. I think you might be off the hook now. Sorry, again. __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

07-26-2005, 09:33 AM	#10
mormegil Maundering Mage Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,651	Eomer, I am slightly confused when you say I repeatedly mention Elf-warrior. I could be wrong but I think I've only mentioned him once. However he was mentioned by others perhaps you are confused on that. Anyway if I look suspicious to you lot that's fine. I just ask who will be doing your killing for you? I found Saurreg's vehemence at my accusation interesting. Durelin has posted some but not given much to go on (that's why I find you suspicious) and your recent post seem to solidify my suspicions of you. Trying to redirect suspision on he who cast it upon you. Elf-warrior is acting similar to Durelin though I am less suspicious of him. Encai simply gave a short post with little to go on. I'm not a fan of that. I like some substance. My second list, I suspect them because they just don't seem to sit right with me. I'm not sure what that means but something to think about for me anyway. __________________ “I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo. "So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”

07-26-2005, 09:14 AM	#3
The Only Real Estel Raffish Rapscallion Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Far from the 'Downs, it seems :-( Posts: 2,835	Good question. I would assume a first timer would be more likely to jump at straws then vets, and she may not have been confused at first. I'm not sure actually, I'd love to here from her about this... edit: cross-posting with Eomer

07-26-2005, 09:37 AM	#7
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	Fea is excused. See? I didn't really suspect you that much. And you made a good point about mirth being intrinsically linked to serious voting; I should know that better than anyone. I'd love to hear from Morm soon. As it stands it seems Nilp is going to die anyway. Maybe it's for the best. I'll hopefully get to query Morm tomorrow even if he doesn't show up today. He's worth watching, in my view. His list of suspicion baffles me. Edit to add: just saw morm's post. Will comment soon. __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

07-26-2005, 10:03 AM	#12
The Elf-warrior Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Virginia. Posts: 952	Time is running out for me so I'll vote for ++TGWBS If you are not a wolf, sorry. See you all the next DAY. __________________ Fenris Wolf: WW LXXX.

07-26-2005, 10:06 AM	#13
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	If you think Nilp is innocent, then why bloody vote for him? Because you're a werewolf? My prognostications inform me that Nilp is as innocent as the sky is blue, and that we must leave him alive long enough to see his endgame. Dare to go against the heavens, you miscreants! Further prognostications inform me that Eomer, Morm, Wilwa, Spawn, and Saurreg are probably innocent. Eomer's endgame must be allowed to play out. Saurreg is a shirriff. Wait and see. There are a few people who are hiding behind fair skin. I trust them not, nor do the stars. ++ the guy who be short He is as wolfish as the day is long. Feanor, say the heavens, may be a liar, but she can't help but make sense, at which times her words are trustworthy though dressed in dissembling. So say the heavens. Demean and deplore them at your own risk.

07-26-2005, 09:24 AM	#14
Durelin Estelo dagnir, Melo ring Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,063	I do wish I could just lynch everyone...would be so much simpler and less confusing. Estel's talked about how it's a 'shot in the dark' on the first day....and this time, Morm's the one in the dark getting shot in my metaphorical darkness with my metaphorical bullet. ++Mormegil I have no idea....I just need to get back to my flowers. And he said I was suspicious, for no reason...so here's a reason for you to say I'm suspicious, deary. I was really tempted to take up the 'everyone votes for themselves' plan, but Nilp's doing too well with that...didn't want to take away from his glory. ~Durelin not-a-wolf-but-more-like-the-hunter-or-seer-dead-header