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Old 08-02-2005, 12:36 PM   #1
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We could always just call them hyena-lemmings - they look like hyenas and act like lemings.
Maybe a mixture... Hemmings or Lyenas.

I like Lyenas. That "lie" in there is quite appropriate, in light of their lying as to their real race.
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Old 08-02-2005, 01:00 PM   #2
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Lyenas is the perfect name Formendacil! It encompasses all aspects of those foul things.

Now let us cease with the discussion of those foul Lyenas and return to the glory of the Warg!
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Old 08-02-2005, 03:38 PM   #3
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Lyenas, defo! What joy it brings me to leave the thread for mere hours and return to find an almost overwhelming number of replies! This thread is so great!
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Old 08-04-2005, 11:52 AM   #4
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Indeed this thread is great! So great we cannot even comprehend its greatness. This is barely anything however, compared to the greatness, glory and power of the Warg!
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Old 08-04-2005, 12:11 PM   #5
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Hmm...

Why not simply refer to them (the movie Wargs) as Wargless? This would apply better, as they are not truly Wargs, nor do they live up to the majesty of one. They do not have 'The Warg', and are thus mockeries, such as Orcs were made to be of Elves.
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Old 08-04-2005, 12:33 PM   #6
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That is true, CaptainofDespair: they are mockeries.

It makes me wonder just how deeply Peter Jackson's hatred of Wargs runs. Or was it Jackson's fault? For too long have we ignored these cinematic abominations! We must investigate the issue and discover who is responsible for this unholy catastrophe.
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Old 08-04-2005, 04:01 PM   #7
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But first Eomer I would suggest going to the cast members of LotR and showing them this thread, as when I was listening to the cast commentary today I found that they all seem to think those film mockeries were an acceptable version of a warg! Now really if you are going to be in a film that is based on a book you could at least read it and get the history of the story and it's characters straight! It's just as bad as the assumption that the Fell Beast is in fact a Nazgul!
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Old 08-09-2005, 09:15 AM   #8
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It makes me wonder just how deeply Peter Jackson's hatred of Wargs runs. Or was it Jackson's fault? For too long have we ignored these cinematic abominations! We must investigate the issue and discover who is responsible for this unholy catastrophe.
Indeed. And I think I've found some facts that prove that it is Mr. Jackson who was in charge of the attempt to profane the Wargs. If you're a sensitive person you probably should not read the following evidence.

The design galleries of the Two Towers reveal that Ben Wootten and Warren Mahy are responsible for the looks of the Lyenas. I was abhorred to listen their comments of their sketches. Mr. Wootten talked about one image where two Lyenas are chasing an intimidated horse. "How terrified the horses would be fighting
dogs", he said! This isn't the only time he talks about Wargs as dogs.

But it's really Mr. Mahy's work we see on screen. However, he shifts the blame to Mr. Jackson telling that he wanted to have rather a dog than a wolf. He would also have liked to see features of a reptile in his Lyenas. And why is this Mr. Jackson's fault? Because by approving the sketches he made himself guilty of spreading this unbelievable heresy of Wargs.

This kind of madness seems too horrible to be derived from a human being. It must be as Nilp said. Mighty is the influence of Varsur!
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