The Warg and Warg Rider Appreciation Thread

[CaptainofDespair]

Hmm...

Why not simply refer to them (the movie Wargs) as Wargless? This would apply better, as they are not truly Wargs, nor do they live up to the majesty of one. They do not have 'The Warg', and are thus mockeries, such as Orcs were made to be of Elves.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

That is true, CaptainofDespair: they are mockeries.

It makes me wonder just how deeply Peter Jackson's hatred of Wargs runs. Or was it Jackson's fault? For too long have we ignored these cinematic abominations! We must investigate the issue and discover who is responsible for this unholy catastrophe.

[Kath]

But first Eomer I would suggest going to the cast members of LotR and showing them this thread, as when I was listening to the cast commentary today I found that they all seem to think those film mockeries were an acceptable version of a warg! Now really if you are going to be in a film that is based on a book you could at least read it and get the history of the story and it's characters straight! It's just as bad as the assumption that the Fell Beast is in fact a Nazgul!

[SamwiseGamgee]

Totally, Kath! I have just had a look through TTT EE and, sure enough, during the Lyena scene there are nothing but sicophantic little whines of praise for our nemesis here at 'The Thread', Peter 'I'm-a-big-loser-and-will-surely-get-my-comuppance-when-I'm-brutally-ripped-to-pieces-by-a-Warg' Jackson. It's vomit inducing.

[Formendacil]

Originally Posted by Kath

But first Eomer I would suggest going to the cast members of LotR and showing them this thread, as when I was listening to the cast commentary today I found that they all seem to think those film mockeries were an acceptable version of a warg! Now really if you are going to be in a film that is based on a book you could at least read it and get the history of the story and it's characters straight! It's just as bad as the assumption that the Fell Beast is in fact a Nazgul!

Quite shocking, indeed, how terribly Jackson has perverted the minds of others. So many have been misled by his apocalyptic vision. And not just crazy fangirls watching the movies, but the members of the cast themselves. In another life, Ian, Viggo, Elijah, Miranda, etc, etc, might all have been great defenders of the Warg legacy- perhaps even members of this great society. But because of Jackson's corruption, they shall never know this great beauty.

One must wonder: what evil being was it that first drew Jackson to the dark side? Although my specialty is first and second age Warg-eology, I might try and dig through the annals of more recent Warg-haters, and try to determine from whence came the New Zealander's hatred of these great beasts.

[High King Fingolfin]

Indeed, I have researched this very subject. I have found that the hatred stems from an early encounter by colonists with several savage Wargs. This has evolved over the years into a total hatred of Wargs by the entire population. A very sad misunderstanding indeed.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

The world, as said by a few people enlightened enough to know the truth, is Varsur's Ring. Truly, Varsur, the great dark Warg, must have exerted his influence much on this PJ character, enabling the seeds of Warg-corruption to grow in his uneducated mind.

Alas, if we only have enlightened him soon enough . . . who knows what praise the world will give to the Wargs? Who knows what peace shall wrap a world in awe of the majesty of Wargs?

But it is not fated to be so, for Varsur still lives.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Terrifying.

Here's another thing which annoys me: How come Wargs are only deemed to be the carriers of Orcs? Did the film-makers ever read The Hobbit? Wargs are, as we all know, far mightier than Orcs. It is true that, when Wargs and Orcs make alliances, the Wargs will carry the Orcs to battle for the purposes of haste. But Wargs are not horses. And the comparison is a deep insult.

Could horses move the very lands and the oceans? Could horses master every tongue in Arda? Could horses defeat a team of Elves on University Challenge? I think not.

Wargs are not pawns to the Orc (they are not even pawns to the Duck, Samwise). Yet that is how they have been presented.

[dancing spawn of ungoliant]

It makes me wonder just how deeply Peter Jackson's hatred of Wargs runs. Or was it Jackson's fault? For too long have we ignored these cinematic abominations! We must investigate the issue and discover who is responsible for this unholy catastrophe.

Indeed. And I think I've found some facts that prove that it is Mr. Jackson who was in charge of the attempt to profane the Wargs. If you're a sensitive person you probably should not read the following evidence.

The design galleries of the Two Towers reveal that Ben Wootten and Warren Mahy are responsible for the looks of the Lyenas. I was abhorred to listen their comments of their sketches. Mr. Wootten talked about one image where two Lyenas are chasing an intimidated horse. "How terrified the horses would be fighting
dogs", he said! This isn't the only time he talks about Wargs as dogs.

But it's really Mr. Mahy's work we see on screen. However, he shifts the blame to Mr. Jackson telling that he wanted to have rather a dog than a wolf. He would also have liked to see features of a reptile in his Lyenas. And why is this Mr. Jackson's fault? Because by approving the sketches he made himself guilty of spreading this unbelievable heresy of Wargs.

This kind of madness seems too horrible to be derived from a human being. It must be as Nilp said. Mighty is the influence of Varsur!