Tol-in-Gaurhoth VII (The Saga goes ever on and on) - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 08-05-2005, 09:45 AM

I might be on later, might not be. Can't risk it so I'd better vote now.

++MORMEGIL

He's pretty suspicious in my eyes. Kath was suspicious of him so here's hoping she was a good judge. I must admit that I am motivated by selfish reasons as well. There is a vote for me and there might be more coming. I suspect Morm much more than I suspect myself. Saurreg's reasoning seems pretty worthy of testing.

By the way Morm, if you think Lhuna is the Cobbler then why are you suspecting me? The Cobbler is meant to accuse whom he/she suspects to be innocent. Is Morm getting mixed up here? I think so.

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 08-05-2005, 09:49 AM

Just saw Estel's post and I have to say he makes a lot of sense.

(More agreement between the two of us? We're obviously both wolves...)

There is more support for lynching Morm today. I certainly suggest that the village lynches Lhuna tomorrow.

The Only Real Estel · 08-05-2005, 09:51 AM

By the way, Eomer, I think you're last point about the cobbler isn't entirely correct. I would expect the cobbler to defend an innocent or attack a wolf in such a way that if the cobbler is lynched & discovered the village might lynch the innocent for a wolf or defend the wolf for an innocent. Hope that makes sense, it did before I tried to express it.

edit: cross-posting AGAIN, I suppose it's some sort of requirement that I have to cross-post with somebody...

edit2: since wilwa will probably not be able to vote (by her own admission) & double-lynchings are discouraged anyway I imagine the day will probably be cut short soon?

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 08-05-2005, 09:58 AM

Hmm, it's tricky, isn't it?

So are you saying there is no obvious Cobbler behaviour? I don't think the Cobbler would be too keen on a potential bluff. I don't think the Cobbler would want to throw suspicion on someone he/she genuinely thought was a wolf, because chances are the village would go along with the Cobbler's theory. And there you have it, there's a dead wolf. Is there a difference between wolvish bluffing and cobbler bluffing?

The Only Real Estel · 08-05-2005, 10:12 AM

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Hmm, it's tricky, isn't it?

So are you saying there is no obvious Cobbler behaviour? I don't think the Cobbler would be too keen on a potential bluff. I don't think the Cobbler would want to throw suspicion on someone he/she genuinely thought was a wolf, because chances are the village would go along with the Cobbler's theory. And there you have it, there's a dead wolf. Is there a difference between wolvish bluffing and cobbler bluffing?

Well, I began the, er...village looking for explicit confusing behavior from the Cobbler but have begun to wonder the last two DAYS or so if the Cobby might be going for a subtle approach - hoping to stay more under the radar until the final DAY & then flare up & guarantee a sure wolf victory? That would be a daring plan, but if Lhuna isn't the Cobbler (which I still suspect that she is) then I think that's what the Cobbler must be going for. You're probably right that the cobbler would try to steer clear of the wolves entirely, but I wouldn't put it past him/her to defend several innocents in the hopes that they get suspected for wolves when the Cobbler is dead. So if Lhuna is the Cobbler we have to be careful with who we are suspicious of.

mormegil · 08-05-2005, 10:15 AM

Well I have another theory and it seems that TORE is thinking along the same lines. Saurreg could be the cobbler, hence his behavior right now. I currently think that either Saurreg or Lhuna is the cobbler and either Eomer and Saurreg is the wolf.

++Eomer

I hope I am not wrong in this and tomorrow after I die you can kill him. For I promise you will see that I am innocent and will rue your vote against me.

Firefoot · 08-05-2005, 10:16 AM

Sorry, all, I see there was some questioning about when the Day was actually ending - I just got back from being out all morning. I'll keep it to the 24 hours, so Day is officially done. Morm's death coming soon.

Edit: This Night could be much shortened since there is so little that needs to happen. Do you want the break of 24 hours? Or should I just post the death as soon as I get it from our wolf? It doesn't matter to me.

Firefoot · 08-05-2005, 10:37 AM

Gone was the sureness of the villagers; they were to lynch Mormegil, but was he really a wolf? They’d find out soon…

As the villagers led him to the village square, they recalled their other problem: they no longer had a gallows. Some other means would need to be found to lynch Mormegil.

“Burn him at the stake!” suggested someone.

“Nay, chop off his head!” yelled another one. The villagers nodded in agreement with this: it was quick and required not much preparation; if Morm was a wolf, he would not have time to burst his bonds and escape.

But the executioner was not to be ousted of his job. “You have shoved me to the back long enough!” he cried. “My axe has too long been idle. You have decided to lynch me, but it is I who will commit the deed with my own axe as it should have been these past Days. By this you shall know that no wolf am I, but innocent!”

The villagers were utterly bewildered at this, and thought maybe to take their decision back. A wolf surely would not kill himself…!

“Wait!” someone started to call, but it was too late. Morm had dropped himself to the ground and brought the blade to his throat. “In the words of Elf-Warrior… think better of me.” And with that, he heaved the axe upon his own neck. The axe, which had been hopefully sharpened so many times this fateful week, cleaved through to the bone. Morm’s eyes shortly glazed over and his body went limp. He had spoken the truth: he had been innocent.

Ashamed, the villagers returned to their homes without a word to each other. Their numbers dwindled; they were running out of chances.

~*~*~*~

Living:

Encai
Eomer
Lhuna
Saurreg
TORE
Wilwarin

Dead:

Firefoot – drowned and burned by werewolves on Night 1
Nilpaurion (Ordinary Villager) – beat piñata style and killed by villagers on Day 1
Fea (Ordinary Villager) – gutted and stuffed by werewolves on Night 2
Oddwen (Ranger) – killed by Nilp’s villager-provoked wolves on Day 2
Durelin (Hunter) – Deadheaded by werewolves on Night 3
TGWBS (Ordinary Villager) - Slain by Hunter on Night 3
Kitanna (Werewolf) – Paralyzed and hung by villagers on Day 3
Dancing Spawn (Ordinary Villager) – Twisted like a pretzel and stuffed in a closet by werewolves on Night 4
Elf-Warrior (Ordinary Villager) – Stabbed through with knives by villagers on Day 4
LMP (Ordinary Villager) – Suffocated by werewolves on Night 5
Oromin (Werewolf) – Crushed under gallows by villagers on Day 5
Kath (Seer) – Scalped with eyeballs ripped out by werewolves on Night 6
Mormegil (Ordinary Villager) – Cut off his own head rather than having the villagers handle his axe on Day 6

Score:

Werewolves – 1
Villagers – 5

It is now Night 7. I need a name from the Wolf; Night will end as soon as that has happened.

08-05-2005, 09:45 AM	#1
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	I might be on later, might not be. Can't risk it so I'd better vote now. ++MORMEGIL He's pretty suspicious in my eyes. Kath was suspicious of him so here's hoping she was a good judge. I must admit that I am motivated by selfish reasons as well. There is a vote for me and there might be more coming. I suspect Morm much more than I suspect myself. Saurreg's reasoning seems pretty worthy of testing. By the way Morm, if you think Lhuna is the Cobbler then why are you suspecting me? The Cobbler is meant to accuse whom he/she suspects to be innocent. Is Morm getting mixed up here? I think so. __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

08-05-2005, 09:49 AM	#2
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	Just saw Estel's post and I have to say he makes a lot of sense. (More agreement between the two of us? We're obviously both wolves...) There is more support for lynching Morm today. I certainly suggest that the village lynches Lhuna tomorrow. __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

08-05-2005, 09:51 AM	#3
The Only Real Estel Raffish Rapscallion Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Far from the 'Downs, it seems :-( Posts: 2,835	By the way, Eomer, I think you're last point about the cobbler isn't entirely correct. I would expect the cobbler to defend an innocent or attack a wolf in such a way that if the cobbler is lynched & discovered the village might lynch the innocent for a wolf or defend the wolf for an innocent. Hope that makes sense, it did before I tried to express it. edit: cross-posting AGAIN, I suppose it's some sort of requirement that I have to cross-post with somebody... edit2: since wilwa will probably not be able to vote (by her own admission) & double-lynchings are discouraged anyway I imagine the day will probably be cut short soon? Last edited by The Only Real Estel; 08-05-2005 at 09:55 AM.

08-05-2005, 09:58 AM	#4
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	Hmm, it's tricky, isn't it? So are you saying there is no obvious Cobbler behaviour? I don't think the Cobbler would be too keen on a potential bluff. I don't think the Cobbler would want to throw suspicion on someone he/she genuinely thought was a wolf, because chances are the village would go along with the Cobbler's theory. And there you have it, there's a dead wolf. Is there a difference between wolvish bluffing and cobbler bluffing? __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

08-05-2005, 10:15 AM	#6
mormegil Maundering Mage Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,651	Well I have another theory and it seems that TORE is thinking along the same lines. Saurreg could be the cobbler, hence his behavior right now. I currently think that either Saurreg or Lhuna is the cobbler and either Eomer and Saurreg is the wolf. ++Eomer I hope I am not wrong in this and tomorrow after I die you can kill him. For I promise you will see that I am innocent and will rue your vote against me. __________________ “I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo. "So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”

08-05-2005, 10:16 AM	#7
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Sorry, all, I see there was some questioning about when the Day was actually ending - I just got back from being out all morning. I'll keep it to the 24 hours, so Day is officially done. Morm's death coming soon. Edit: This Night could be much shortened since there is so little that needs to happen. Do you want the break of 24 hours? Or should I just post the death as soon as I get it from our wolf? It doesn't matter to me.

08-05-2005, 10:37 AM	#8
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Gone was the sureness of the villagers; they were to lynch Mormegil, but was he really a wolf? They’d find out soon… As the villagers led him to the village square, they recalled their other problem: they no longer had a gallows. Some other means would need to be found to lynch Mormegil. “Burn him at the stake!” suggested someone. “Nay, chop off his head!” yelled another one. The villagers nodded in agreement with this: it was quick and required not much preparation; if Morm was a wolf, he would not have time to burst his bonds and escape. But the executioner was not to be ousted of his job. “You have shoved me to the back long enough!” he cried. “My axe has too long been idle. You have decided to lynch me, but it is I who will commit the deed with my own axe as it should have been these past Days. By this you shall know that no wolf am I, but innocent!” The villagers were utterly bewildered at this, and thought maybe to take their decision back. A wolf surely would not kill himself…! “Wait!” someone started to call, but it was too late. Morm had dropped himself to the ground and brought the blade to his throat. “In the words of Elf-Warrior… think better of me.” And with that, he heaved the axe upon his own neck. The axe, which had been hopefully sharpened so many times this fateful week, cleaved through to the bone. Morm’s eyes shortly glazed over and his body went limp. He had spoken the truth: he had been innocent. Ashamed, the villagers returned to their homes without a word to each other. Their numbers dwindled; they were running out of chances. ~~~~ Living: Encai Eomer Lhuna Saurreg TORE Wilwarin Dead: Firefoot – drowned and burned by werewolves on Night 1 Nilpaurion (Ordinary Villager) – beat piñata style and killed by villagers on Day 1 Fea (Ordinary Villager) – gutted and stuffed by werewolves on Night 2 Oddwen (Ranger) – killed by Nilp’s villager-provoked wolves on Day 2 Durelin (Hunter) – Deadheaded by werewolves on Night 3 TGWBS (Ordinary Villager) - Slain by Hunter on Night 3 Kitanna (Werewolf) – Paralyzed and hung by villagers on Day 3 Dancing Spawn (Ordinary Villager) – Twisted like a pretzel and stuffed in a closet by werewolves on Night 4 Elf-Warrior (Ordinary Villager) – Stabbed through with knives by villagers on Day 4 LMP (Ordinary Villager) – Suffocated by werewolves on Night 5 Oromin (Werewolf) – Crushed under gallows by villagers on Day 5 Kath (Seer) – Scalped with eyeballs ripped out by werewolves on Night 6 Mormegil (Ordinary Villager) – Cut off his own head rather than having the villagers handle his axe on Day 6 Score*: Werewolves – 1 Villagers – 5 It is now Night 7. I need a name from the Wolf; Night will end as soon as that has happened.