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solarisa · 08-06-2005, 08:36 PM

maybe the crown was too heavy for beren? maybe he was too fascinated by the silmarils, therefore only extracting them? or maybe, no one will know...

hmm...elves were just like humans; how do you get the magical stuff in there(about finarfin??)

Alcarillo · 08-06-2005, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by solarisa

hmm...elves were just like humans; how do you get the magical stuff in there(about finarfin??)

I suppose what seemed like an ordinary cosmetics routine to the elves must've seemed like magic to Beren and other mortals. This reminds me of a Star Trek episode, in which a primitive species spots the Enterprise and considers its technology to be magic and ends up worshipping Picard. (wierd analogy, I know) Anyways, substitute Felegund and his make-up skill for Picard and his futuristic technology and the primitive species for Mortals and you can see what I mean.

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Originally Posted by Gorthaur the Cruel

#4 Will the Doom of Mandos (fading) apply to Thranduil & his subjects?

Thranduil and his subjects are Moriquendi, so no.

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#5 In your personal opinion, do you think the Elves who remained in Valinor during the turmoils of Morgoth & Sauron in ME became mightier than those who lingered & endured their malice?

Interesting question. I think that the Elves in Middle-earth would've stood up better in the face of evil than elves from Valinor, who for so long knew no evil or suffering.

brim · 08-06-2005, 09:11 PM

I have read a book like that before. It had several different things from the future and they were refered to as magic from the more primitive people's point of veiw. Interesting concept really.

Thinlómien · 08-08-2005, 04:05 AM

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# How was Glorfindel able to slay a Balrog (Maia) & Finrod can't even scratch Sauron?

Because
* Sauron was more powerful than the balrog
* Glorfindel was in better condition in the battle than Finrod, who had laid in a prison for days, when he met his enemy
* Glorfindel got help from Thorondor and he would have lost without the help of the eagle

Thinlómien · 08-08-2005, 04:09 AM

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#5 In your personal opinion, do you think the Elves who remained in Valinor during the turmoils of Morgoth & Sauron in ME became mightier than those who lingered & endured their malice?

Maybe they were mightier in other matters and less mighty on other matters? F.g. they would have more "light of Aman" in them, but they wouldn't be so physically hardened or so good stalkers. I think it may work like evolution; they get better in things they need in their every day life and poorer in things they don't use. And th light of Aman probably fades in the ME elves.

Gorthaur the Cruel · 08-08-2005, 03:44 PM

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Maybe they were mightier in other matters and less mighty on other matters? F.g. they would have more "light of Aman" in them, but they wouldn't be so physically hardened or so good stalkers. I think it may work like evolution; they get better in things they need in their every day life and poorer in things they don't use. And th light of Aman probably fades in the ME elves.

there was no longer this "light" in Aman. It disappeared when the two Trees perished.

Gurthang · 08-09-2005, 12:01 PM

Still, Thinlómien has a point there. The Elves in Aman had no worries about attack or betrayal, so they could concentrate on building beautiful wonders or mastering arts and song. On the other hand, the Noldor in Middle-Earth would have spent much more time studying warfare and the use of arms rather than concentrating on making less useful but more spectacular things.

With that in mind, I would say that the Elves of Aman were better at building beauty, singing, art, and understanding of animals/plants. The Elves of Middle-Earth would have had much superior knowledge of building strength, warfare, smithery, and negotiating. I would think that things such as mining, hunting, and writing would have been similar in both places.

08-06-2005, 08:36 PM	#1
solarisa Animated Skeleton Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: minnesota Posts: 42	maybe the crown was too heavy for beren? maybe he was too fascinated by the silmarils, therefore only extracting them? or maybe, no one will know... hmm...elves were just like humans; how do you get the magical stuff in there(about finarfin??) __________________ ~Spirit of sunlight...i am free~

08-06-2005, 09:11 PM	#3
brim Pile O'Bones Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 19	I have read a book like that before. It had several different things from the future and they were refered to as magic from the more primitive people's point of veiw. Interesting concept really. __________________ there's a foul voice in the air (listens) nevermind it's mine

08-09-2005, 12:01 PM	#7
Gurthang Sword of Spirit Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Oh, I'm around. Posts: 1,401	Still, Thinlómien has a point there. The Elves in Aman had no worries about attack or betrayal, so they could concentrate on building beautiful wonders or mastering arts and song. On the other hand, the Noldor in Middle-Earth would have spent much more time studying warfare and the use of arms rather than concentrating on making less useful but more spectacular things. With that in mind, I would say that the Elves of Aman were better at building beauty, singing, art, and understanding of animals/plants. The Elves of Middle-Earth would have had much superior knowledge of building strength, warfare, smithery, and negotiating. I would think that things such as mining, hunting, and writing would have been similar in both places. __________________ I'm on a Mission from God.