M-m-meaning! Let's define, is it 'meaning' or 'Meaning', or if there's any at all... - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

HerenIstarion · 08-16-2005, 11:21 AM

Hard question, TGWBS, hard. (Or do I hear hint of dissappointement here?)

Sure, you've noticed - I've put commas round 'real meaning' up there.

In this case, though, 'real meaning' is what 'real meaning' is for you. And you too. And hey there, don't sidewalk like this, it means you too!

There is no means (heh) of pinning aforesaid 'real meaning' by its tail (in case it has any), for the very diversity of personal opinion. In matters as such, luckily, democracy haven't won and 'majority says so, true be it' is not yet the issue.

The 'real meaning' behind this poll issue (as far as I may answer for mark, who's the author) is curiosity - who thinks what and why (presumably, we already know that, or may make educated guesses about it, following longuish discussions in numerous C-threads, enchantment-breadking topics and ART Slapdowns) but: A. list is extended here (so to imclude as many shades of definition as possible) B. it is fun to see it all expressed in numbers. C. Another angle of 'for the fun of it' - presumably, we'll see some interesing clashes (hush, I won't tell names)

If I missed anything, mark will stand in for me. I have to go - got to sharpen my teeth before coming back here tomorrow

EDIT: yes, Firefoot, but it does not matter that much, as we all are readers, and are placed in similar positions. Besides, the poll tries to find out how you read the book, and if in finding that out we asked for 'reader's opinion', it does not follow the reader who's opinion we inquired upon, when reading, gave preference to it over something else. Where the preferences lie, is what the poll is after. Again, mark may add something

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View Poll Results: The 'real meaning' of the Lord of the Rings is to be found in:
The Author's intent	2	7.14%
The Reader's individual opinion	6	21.43%
Mainstream Reader consensus	0	0%
The BarrowDowns Book Forum consensus	2	7.14%
A Glimpse of Divine Truth	1	3.57%
The Reader's collaboration with both the Author's intent and the opinions of others	4	14.29%
Divine Truth glimpsed by the individual Reader guided by the Author's intent	3	10.71%
It does not have to have a 'meaning' at all, the books are entertaining, and that's sufficient	5	17.86%
All of the above may be true up to an extent	5	17.86%
Current poll does not cover all possible options at all, we need another, refined one [if you choose this answer, please list other possible options in the thread. Thank you]	0	0%
Voters: 28. You may not vote on this poll

08-16-2005, 11:21 AM	#7
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	Meaning? I mean 'meaning', if you follow my meaning... Hard question, TGWBS, hard. (Or do I hear hint of dissappointement here?) Sure, you've noticed - I've put commas round 'real meaning' up there. In this case, though, 'real meaning' is what 'real meaning' is for you. And you too. And hey there, don't sidewalk like this, it means you too! There is no means (heh) of pinning aforesaid 'real meaning' by its tail (in case it has any), for the very diversity of personal opinion. In matters as such, luckily, democracy haven't won and 'majority says so, true be it' is not yet the issue. The 'real meaning' behind this poll issue (as far as I may answer for mark, who's the author) is curiosity - who thinks what and why (presumably, we already know that, or may make educated guesses about it, following longuish discussions in numerous C-threads, enchantment-breadking topics and ART Slapdowns) but: A. list is extended here (so to imclude as many shades of definition as possible) B. it is fun to see it all expressed in numbers. C. Another angle of 'for the fun of it' - presumably, we'll see some interesing clashes (hush, I won't tell names) If I missed anything, mark will stand in for me. I have to go - got to sharpen my teeth before coming back here tomorrow EDIT: yes, Firefoot, but it does not matter that much, as we all are readers, and are placed in similar positions. Besides, the poll tries to find out how you read the book, and if in finding that out we asked for 'reader's opinion', it does not follow the reader who's opinion we inquired upon, when reading, gave preference to it over something else. Where the preferences lie, is what the poll is after. Again, mark may add something END OF EDIT __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time! Last edited by HerenIstarion; 08-16-2005 at 11:30 AM. Reason: cross-posting