M-m-meaning! Let's define, is it 'meaning' or 'Meaning', or if there's any at all...

[HerenIstarion]

Originally Posted by Bb

Those punctuation marks are called apostrophes

Indeed... who would have thought? They really look the same, just those 'trophy' thingies are commas who won something, on account of being placed on top as they are...

Originally Posted by Lalwendë

But in that case, why is The Author's Intent a category? Because if we want to say that the Author dictates the meaning of the text then the 'real meaning' to us as readers is irrelevant, as there can only be one 'real meaning' ... so you may feel free not to rise to the bait

This forum is full of sophists! How could I resist, what with my teeth already sharpened and all?

Authorial Intent is a category, cause, though Author may dictate the meaning, it is the freedom of the Reader to land an ear to said dictation. In which case, it is a consequence of a deliberate and conscious choice on behalf of the Reader, and therefore, falls under the same rules as others.

Of course, Reader who made such a choice (or any other choice) may feel the Truth on his/her side, yet it is unprovable that it is indeed so.

See my vote up there. It is the Truth (for me, and yes, with capital T), but unless you (him, her, them, the bird, the plane and the Superman) freely make the same choice, you won't share it with me. Whatever arguments I may put forward, there always may be found counter arguments, and we'll have a draw, i.e., will go on brandishing flags with big T's embroidered in golden thread on them, or leave it at that and have each his/her own.

We may alter our opinions, of course, but than it will mean the shift of choice, and, consequently, the shift of 'real meaning' (i.e. what it means to me/you/them personally)

I may seem pouring water on Reader's Opinion supporters mill again, but: above was about the Reader's choice concerning his/her approach before the start of actual Reading, not the attitude during the Reading itself.

Feel the Force, young Padawan, see if it is Light or Dark way you feel it, that is your preliminary choice, and than act upon it

Originally Posted by Lalwendë

If I knew what the meaning was, then I might be able to say where it was that I found it

Vote for the new poll: what is the meaning. But be afraid, be very afraid of Aiwendil seeing it. I won't tell you why, you'll know when (if) he replies...