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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: The bottom of the ocean, discussing philosophy with a giant squid
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Sword of Spirit
Join Date: Aug 2003
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LMP, despite your vote for me on DAY 1, I am only mildly suspicious of you, and not at all for your vote. What makes me suspicious are your mistakes here:
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Yet I am still more suspicious of Gil-Galad. That first day vote against me seems like an attempt to change the momentum, and was not really explained at all. He has not said anything since I last posted and a lot of his posts before that confused me. I want to hear from him again, especially since I think I will vote for him again toDAY. And, if Gil-Galad would turn out to be a wolf, then I will be looking closer at LMP, since he, Gil and Mith all voted for me on DAY 1. Boromir's reverse psychology idea makes sense. (but that will be only if Gil-Galad is a wolf)
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Oh dear. I'm really sorry about arcticstorm outing himself. My philosophical friend, I was pretty sure who you were, and while any defence I could give you would probably have done you more harm than good given the suspicion I've been under, I had a feeling SpM also had worked this out and would have tried to protect you (which is incidentally one of the reasons I was inclined to believe in his, SpM's, innocence).
It's not inconceivable that Lmp had the same suspicion as I did about arcticstorm and set about flushing him out on purpose with his accusations. Ho hum.
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LMP, yes a double-bluff is bold, I wouldn't try using one, but who knows. To let you know (if it's any comfort) I'm nowhere near thinking about voting for you for any reason, atleast yet. I do have suspicions on you, but I do read what you have to say, as you have things to offer. I also agree that it would be deeply unwise just to look at one suspect. Yesterday, before I voted I had three people in mind, and toiled with the decision of sleeping overnight, and getting up early to vote. My concern was I wouldn't get up in time, therefor I decided to vote right before I went to bed (11 pm), and I had to make the decision then. Sadly, and regrettably, it was the wrong choice. I agree it would be foolish to be set on one person.
Lalaith, I won't deny my involvement in Captain's lynching. To do so would be utterly stupid, as I was one of the vocal voices in his lynching. But, I did say that my idea of "innocence not having to prove their innocence. Only guilty people stoutly deny their innocence because they have something to fear" might not work. I think using the indian example again, I mean I don't know about you. I may not have lied but I would certainly be afraid of a hot iron being put in my mouth, that could get someone scared, therefor their tongue burns and they were not a liar, just feered the hot iron. Also, I offer possible solutions, whether people decide to agree with them or not is up to them. So, while I was instrumental in being one to voice my suspicion about Captain of Despair, I would not take full blame, nor accept taking full blame for I was only one of the several to decide to lynch him. Obviously others found sufficient belief in his lynching. As it turned out, we had the wrong person.
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I'm posting again to step out and speak towards arcticstorm.
Tis a noble thing for you to do, to step out and declare your identity. I would have waited, as I didn't see much to suggest you were guilty (atleast I wouldn't have voted for you), but that does not lessen your honor. You will be missed, good sir.
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you know what i just realized, since that i'm a suspect, the wolves or bear could kill off one of the villagers that are suspecting me to frame me and save their own hide, i great tactic that we kinda helped the wolves set up...
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: The bottom of the ocean, discussing philosophy with a giant squid
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Gil-Galad, thou hast been extraordinarily quiete recentely. I woulde have expected thee to vote for Captain, but thou didst not. I cannot comprehend what thou mightst be, though I still believe "Wolfe" is ye best answer. Do something suspiciouse and when people suspect thee, hide and say little...
My minde is somewhat blanke at this pointe. arcticstorm, if thou hast any insighte as a Sherriff, I aske thee to share it.
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As to Saucepan's plan that we lynch everyone else, It would not work even if everyone voted for themselves, and I did not vote. Because we know the wolves, bear, and cobbler would not vote for themselves. And though they would reveal themselves in that way, they conceivably could force a quadrupel lynching. Kill two more tonight. That is 6 dead. out of 14 left? leaving those 4, plus what, four others? So the villagers would not be able to lynch them all at once, because the wolves and cobbler would help eachother. maybe killing one of them with the help of the bear. So what we would have is 1 or 2 wolves, 0 or 1 cobbler, 1 bear, 4 villagers. so say the wolves kill a villager. and the bear, in his best interests, would have to kill a villager. leaving 1 wolf, 1 cobbler, 1 bear, 2 villagers. so this day the bear would not want to kill the wolf, because the cobbler, I doubt would support him in the end. BUt maybe. But if the 2 villagers and the bear get the last wolf. leaving one death at night. what would be left is 1 cobbler 1 villager 1 bear. If the cobbler decides in the last to support the bear the bear would win, if not the villager would. If a villager is killed during the day, instead of the wolf. The wolf would kill the bear, and with the cobbler's help would win the game. And by mixing the other scenario's around, I do not see many paths leading to a villager victory. |
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Staying on the Wolf Hunt.
SamwiseGamgee your plan is very inventive I must admit but I say we not move on to something about a supposed known to everyone innocent(I say supposed cuz I guess Arctic could possibly be lying but that I highly doubt.).
We should stay on the Wolf hunt for now because we dont need something new for the wolves to hide under and argue about. I am not sure who to vote for at the moment so I would like to keep talking about those suspicious to help my stumped self out.
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No no and thrice no! Two things: 1. Arcticstorm is not bluffing. The record backs him up. If he was, then the real Shirriff would step forward and declare themselves. I severely doubt that anyone will. 2. If we lynched arcticstorm, we would almost certainly guarantee the death of two innocents in the place of one. The Wolves would be able to choose another to kill in his place, and it's unlikely that it would be the Bear. It might even be the Seer. If we don't lynch arcticstorm, we have a shot at one of the Wolves or the Bear to-Day. No, let's not go there. 'Tis a silly plan. Quote:
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Pile O'Bones
Join Date: Jul 2005
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Clearly, I was wrong, but all suspicion was not leaving. Make no mistake, I’m on your side, ‘twas a very simple err, To lynch you for a simple slip? I would never dare. The ones that find you guilty, I think they are in the wrong Now, I must go run and errand, so I’ll pause here in my song.
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Pile O'Bones
Join Date: Jul 2005
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I notice that the wolves, too, write wicked poetry. *sob, burying face in hands* A saddened place the world is where art is simply jeered My once noble profession is now, by wicked, seared!
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Shade of Carn Dûm
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: In the warm bosom of a Warg
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I'm becoming more and more sure that Gil is calling our bluff. I suspected him yesterday and having read his posts today, and especially #237, I'm pretty convinced that he's up to something. But what? is it cobbler, bear or audacious werewolf? Who knows. Also, Enca voted for him yesterday. Now, sure, I hear you groan that that's just too predictable and nobody'd be so stupid- but i just can't help wonder if it's one of those dangerous dances on the knife-edge of stupidity and brilliance.
Also, lmp, you said that in post #44 I voted late and safe for Mith. Um, no. I was second to vote for her, convinced by Firefoot's reasoning. The mistakes which several people have pointed out that you made in that post worry me. Are they just honest mistakes or are they subtle perversions which you hoped nobody would pick up on? I just don't know what to think anymore!
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Shade of Carn Dûm
Join Date: Sep 2003
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Here's a crazy plan I literally just thought of which may just be crazy enough to work: we lynch articstorm. We basically know that the wolves will want to kill him overnight, so it might just work for theses reasons: (1) it'll remove options from the wolves- killing articstorm is a safe kill for them, it sheds no extra light on the situation; (2) if the wolves leave articstorm alive tonight we're all going to be very suspicious tomorrow, and we're all going to start clutching at straws regarding bluffs; and (3) there's a small possibility that articstorm is bluffing. Suspicions of him were not really strong enough to warrant him revealling himself when he did. If he is bluffing, he won't be an innocent and so we'll net ourselves something hairy!
I've not even convinced myself this is a good idea yet- and you'll probably lynch me for even suggesting it, but I'm just throwing it out there for discussion.
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I daresay that Arctic's reaction will be fairly icy. I’d rather take a chance and try to kill a wolf today-- Wolves want us to kill innocents, and therefore pave their way. *purses lips* However… We don’t know what will happen if Arctic lives the day, We could just wait to see what Arcticstorm will say. If he likes your plan, well, I still don't think it wise, But before we even think about it, let's hear it from his eyes.
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Sword of Spirit
Join Date: Aug 2003
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Samwise Gamgee, I must say that I, at least, will not lynch you for the idea, but I do not like it. Killing a known innocent is not going to help us as a village. Sure, it leaves the werecreatures in doubt, but they will still pick two others to kill tonight. By not lynching arcticstorm, we almost guarantee that we know what our opponets will do(they'll kill him), thus keeping us a step ahead. And we just might get a wolf or the bear if we lynch someone besides arcticstorm.
And think about this: Perhaps the wolves and the bear will both try to kill arcticstorm. Would that result in only him dying? If so, it would be good because we only lose one innocent tonight rather than two. Or perhaps they(wolves and bear) would both think the other will kill arcticstorm, so they both leave him and we have a known innocent alive tomorrow. Personally, I would feel a lot better about lynching someone who is acting suspicious rather than lynching a known innocent. I'm still leaning towards Gil-Galad. His last post could be a sincere defense attempt, or it could be him trying to bluff himself to safety; I'm not really certain.
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I just thought of something. And this is probably as bad an idea as arcticstorm's: double lynch. Maybe we get lucky and kill two werethings at one go. Probably not though. Still, I just feel like Gil is playing games with all our minds instead of being a werethingy. Therefore, one of my next most suspicious gets my vote: ++ Nonnacedak Laitaine, paint me not with the brush of wickedness. Though I've mistaken twice today, 'twas attempted rightliness. Note too that your sprightly versing I most certainly have noticed, and is my main grounds for leaving you off my werelist. And I agree with you about Nonna, obviously. Quote:
Spawn seems innocent because she has been straightforward, just as you have, SPM. She sounds right. Funny, I thought I did, too, yet I'm suspected of being a Bear. But then this time in our village is all about reading things into others' words which may or may not be there. Sigh. Quote:
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Now here goes Durelin, casting suspicion so far and wide that I gotta wonder if we weren't onto somthing earlier. I mean, what's up with a suspect list of no less than five fellow villagers when there are only 2 werewolves, 1 werebear, and 1 cobbler? I suppose maybe she's being "thorough". Hmmmm.... Wilwarin's continued failure to vote is less than stellar gaming, for one thing, and otherwise suspicious. I just saw Spawn's vote for me. Oh well. If I die before I wake.... Last edited by littlemanpoet; 08-18-2005 at 09:08 AM. |
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Shade of Carn Dûm
Join Date: Sep 2003
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++ Gil-Galad
I'm really pretty sure that he's some sort of were-creature, and even if he's not the confusion he's casting in this village is counter-productive and distracting. That may sound fanatical, but it's really just me saying that he could be the cobbler. I must leave now and earn my keep- I hope to reurn in time to find a gallows with a werewolf or bear hanging upon it. If there is not may Wargy protect this village of Hamlet.
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Well luckily I have wocken up this morning early enough to vote, its 7 am where I am so that doesn't happen very often. I hope you guys beleive me when I say that I din't vote because I was not prepared to vote for any one, now after reading what has been said since last night I will vote for:
++Nonnacedak For reasons stated by others.
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I have been thinking about this, and with Gil most likely being the cobbler and probably going to be lynched anyway. I will therfore vote for our resident feline who has been on my suspicion list for some time.
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Corpus Cacophonous
Join Date: Jan 2003
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Well, with only two votes left (including mine), Gil-Galad will be lynched, and there is thankfully no possibility of a tie.
I am still inclined to believe that Gil is innocent or the Cobbler. I can't help but feel that, were he a Wolf, he would have made sure to vote yester-Day, when the voting was tight, to save himself. Then again, his Day 1 vote speaks against him, as does his claim, earlier to-Day, that he might be the victim of a frame-up. I suppose that there are worse choices than Gil. He just might be a Wolf, and could quite possibly be the Cobbler. And, if he is innocent, I highly doubt that he is one of our remaining Gifteds. Well, since my vote will now make no difference, I will use against the one person of whom I have become more and more suspicious as to-Day has progressed. ++ DANCING SPAWN OF UNGOLIANT She states that she voiced suspicion of Mithalwen on Day 1, but that was at a time when Mithalwen, with 6 votes, looked fairly likely to be lynched. She voted for her shortly afterwards, when Mithalwen's fate was almost certainly sealed. That seems to me to be a perfect way for a Wolf to clothe herself in innocence and thereby profit from the death of one of her own kind. Also, her vote for CaptainofDespair was fairly decisive, putting him two votes ahead of Gil-Galad. Quite possibly, she concluded from what he had said in his defence that he was the Ranger. I remain suspicious of the others identified in my previous post too. And, whether Gil-Galad turns out to be Wolf, Cobbler, Bear or innocent, his death may well serve to provide further enlightenment.
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Lynch'd!
The votes crept in, and silently put a "lynch me!" sign on the back of none other than Gil-Galad, that resident gravekeeper, town cryer, and garrisoned soldier.
"Year ye, hear ye, I am about to be lynched!" he cried as they took hold of him. "Who will dig my grave?" "Oh, I don't think you'll need one," they said. "As we're going to burn you at the stake, and there'll be nothing left of your body when we're done." "Correct me if I'm wrong but is that a CHALLENNNNNGE?? Double doooooooooooooooooce!" And as he brought his red glov'd hands to bear, his friendly face through his red parka morphed! A snout began to grow from whence sprung his nose, a tail sprung from his hinder parts, and he snarled fiercely. Then he began to caper about strangely. "You thought I was the Cobbler! That is so dumb! That sounds like it is soooo dumb!" They took ahold of him and struggled him to the remains of the Ugly Duckling, and tied him to the pole that LMP used to dance with when he was drunk. Gil struggled and glared and howled at the throng, but paused when Saucie brought a lantern. "Hey Sauciepan Man, whaaaaat are you doing?" Saucie said naught, but threw the lantern onto the alcohol-soaked wood. "Jibblie jibblie jibblie!" shuddered Gil as the lantern cascaded towards the wood, and immediately burst into a fireball visible from eighty leagues away. Indeed, far away Rohan was summoned to Gondor before they realized their mistake. When the Villagers raised themselves from the ground, all that was left of the scene was a huge pile of ash and a twisted metal pole. "Now that," said the Villagers coughing and spluttering, "Is a jorb well done." "Hey!" cried one digging at the ashes of the fire. "This isn't dirt! I-it's pudding!" "YAY!!" ---------------------
Living: Arcticstorm Boromir88 Dancing Spawn of Ungoliant Durelin Gurthang Laitaine Lalaith littlemanpoet Meneltarmacil Nonnacedak SamwiseGamgee The Saucepan Man Wilwa Dead: Oddwen (Mod) - Skeletonized by Wolves on NIGHT 1 Mithalwen (Werewolf) - Cheesily lynched on DAY 1 Alcarillo (Villager) - Smashed to bits on NIGHT 2 Mormegil (Villager) - Blown away on NIGHT 2 CaptainofDespair (Ranger) - Innocent blood rejected by nature, received by men on DAY 2 Encaitare (Villager) - Thrown off a cliff by a Bear on NIGHT 3 Firefoot (Sherriff) - Killed by clowns on NIGHT 3 Gil-Galad (Werewolf) - Lynch'ed!! on DAY 3 It is now NIGHT 4. DAY 4 will begin in 23 3/4 hours. I need names from the Bear, Seer, Wolf, and Hunter.
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