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Old 08-17-2005, 07:59 PM   #1
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My minde is somewhat blanke at this pointe. arcticstorm, if thou hast any insighte as a Sherriff, I aske thee to share it.
Unfortunately, when Firefoot died she had many people, at least ten, as possible wolves, and I had at least one other on the list. AS to Samwise's possible solution of lynching me tonight, it would be a mistake to lynch a known innocent. Doing so would free up two more innocents to die tonight, though by lynching someone else we may kill an innocent, we may get a wolf or bear.
As to Saucepan's plan that we lynch everyone else, It would not work even if everyone voted for themselves, and I did not vote. Because we know the wolves, bear, and cobbler would not vote for themselves. And though they would reveal themselves in that way, they conceivably could force a quadrupel lynching. Kill two more tonight. That is 6 dead. out of 14 left? leaving those 4, plus what, four others? So the villagers would not be able to lynch them all at once, because the wolves and cobbler would help eachother. maybe killing one of them with the help of the bear. So what we would have is 1 or 2 wolves, 0 or 1 cobbler, 1 bear, 4 villagers. so say the wolves kill a villager. and the bear, in his best interests, would have to kill a villager. leaving 1 wolf, 1 cobbler, 1 bear, 2 villagers. so this day the bear would not want to kill the wolf, because the cobbler, I doubt would support him in the end. BUt maybe. But if the 2 villagers and the bear get the last wolf. leaving one death at night. what would be left is 1 cobbler 1 villager 1 bear. If the cobbler decides in the last to support the bear the bear would win, if not the villager would. If a villager is killed during the day, instead of the wolf. The wolf would kill the bear, and with the cobbler's help would win the game. And by mixing the other scenario's around, I do not see many paths leading to a villager victory.
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Old 08-17-2005, 08:10 PM   #2
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Ok, articstorm, I hear you. My idea was only that, and it would only have worked if everyone got on board, so there we are. My big concern is if the wolves don't kill you tonight what are we going to do? At that point I'm going to find it very hard to continue believing you.

Now I must take my rest. I hope to be up just in time to vote and hopefully see a wolfen fiend hang!
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Old 08-17-2005, 08:17 PM   #3
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Samwise, with your and Durelin's recent posts. If I was a wolf and there was a known innocent, that not everyone was convinced, but is willing to accept. I would leave him alive tonight kill two other innocents, so that the next day the village would kill the known innocent suspecting him of lying. So if I do survive tonight, the chances are slim that I will survive the next day and night. They may try to convince the village that I am not what I say by keeping me alive tonight, killing two innocents, and convincing the village to kill a known innocent the next day, it would further their plan even more. Either way, I will not survive the next night-day-night period. If I am not lynched the next day by the village calling their bluff they will kill me the next night.
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Old 08-17-2005, 08:32 PM   #4
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As to Saucepan's plan that we lynch everyone else, It would not work even if everyone voted for themselves, and I did not vote.
Actually, it would not work because the Wolves, Bear and Cobbler simply wouldn't vote. It might be manageable with more known innocents and an agreed deadline for voting - but it's too risky to warrant any other Gifteds declaring themselves. I was really only looking for reactions.

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My big concern is if the wolves don't kill you tonight what are we going to do? At that point I'm going to find it very hard to continue believing you.
There are a number of reasons why arcticstorm might not die tonight. Gurthang and arcticstorm have both outlined the main ones. Another is that both the Wolves and the bear might (rightly or wrongly) think that they have identified the Seer. I really do not believe that arcticstorm is bluffing, and I will continue to believe that even if he survives this Night.

Oh, and you can add wilwarin538 to my suspect list. I don't care what the reasons are. At this stage in the Day, deciding not to vote at all is suspicious behaviour in my eyes.
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Old 08-17-2005, 08:52 PM   #5
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I have been thinking hard about whether to vote now or later, the only problem is I do not know if I will be here in time, but I will risk it. Right now I am most suspicious of Gil and will most likely vote that way later on today. If I am back in time, I will review everything else before posting my final vote. I am going to rest for a while and contemplate things.

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Old 08-17-2005, 08:55 PM   #6
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I will have to follow Meneltarmacil in this. I have never been more convinced that someone is guilty of treachery then tonight.

Yesterday, I was juggling between voting for CoD, Gil-Galad, and Durelin. Regretably I made a wrong choice. So, coming into today Gil-galad was my main suspicion and nothing new has been said to change that suspicion. In fact, I am more confident than I have ever been previously...

His slipperyness and quick responses got him passed yesterday, and got my mind off him, and led me down the wrong path to CoD. I do not intend to have the same thing happen today.

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Old 08-17-2005, 08:56 PM   #7
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Posting again, to sort of explain why I did not vote for Durelin. With her defense of CoD she's slipped down in suspicion for me. That doesn't mean I'm totally convinced, but she has definitely moved down the radar since yesterday.
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Old 08-17-2005, 09:38 PM   #8
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Yesterday I voted for Gil-Galad and I think today will be no different. Reasons for this vote have been said many times over so I feel I dont need to say why.

++Gil-Galad

I guess I have spent most of my posts stating that Im innocent and it has brought a tiny bit of suspicion my way. I guess Ill just attack from now on like everyone else.

wilwarin538 is of course up there. Havent heard much from her/him and not voting is a act pulling in suspicion. I mean if your not gonna vote listening to your words is kinda a waste of time.

Hopefully before the next day period Im still alive and the decisions will get easier. I must retire to my shack for now. Night Night!
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Old 08-17-2005, 10:25 PM   #9
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So, coming into today Gil-galad was my main suspicion and nothing new has been said to change that suspicion. In fact, I am more confident than I have ever been previously...

His slipperyness and quick responses got him passed yesterday, and got my mind off him, and led me down the wrong path to CoD. I do not intend to have the same thing happen today.[/B]
*yawn* Too tired...no time...to think...of good rhymes...
You words...sound true...I would...believe you...
However...I still...think Non...has ill will...

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I think Gil-Galad is the Cobbler, and is too brash to be a wolf. Or he is simply the usual confused innocent villager
*shakes sleep out of eyes, frustrated*
I still can't believe Gil can be our best pick
Frankly, his speech suggests he's rather thick.
Wouldn't a wolf put more thought to the game
And at least try to stop people slandering his name?

*shrugs. yawns*

Could be a trick...though I think it's quite dumb...
But I guess there's a chance that he is a wolf-bum.
Agreed, Gil's been acting in a rather weird way,
But Non has defended himself every day.

If Gil is a werewolf, then I'll be impressed
I didn't think wolves would act like they care less.
But if it is true, then I will stand corrected
And gladly play tunes as his body's bisected.

*yawn* My vote...will still go...to who I think....the foe...

++NONNACEDACK
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Old 08-17-2005, 10:43 PM   #10
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I'm not sure about Gurthang either. He says he is still suspicious of me, though I was not a part of the lynching of CoD. I know this does not completely assure anyone that I am innocent, but I'd like to hear more from Gurthang as to why he is suspicious of me.
I guess it's not so much that I'm still suspicious of you, as it is that I've not become unsuspicious. Your first day posts confused me and made me suspicious of you(hence my DAY 1 vote for you) and early into DAY 2 I still thought you were acting odd. You haven't done anything else since then I would consider really suspicious. So I'm not really that suspicious, it's more like I'm just keeping an eye on you.

Now, as I have said before, I still think Gil-Galad has acted wolfish. Especially for that unexplained DAY 1 vote. So:

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voting so far(including me):

Boromir88 - 1
Gil-Galad - 4
Nonnacedak - 1
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