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Old 08-19-2005, 02:32 AM   #1
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Old 08-27-2005, 04:48 PM   #2
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Another Question:

How did the One Ring reach all the way back to the Gladden Fields?
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Old 08-27-2005, 04:55 PM   #3
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Come on: this isn't the quiz room. The Gladden Fields were where the massacre of Isildur and his men took place. The Ring simply slipped off his finger as he tried to swim the Anduin, then lay on the riverbed until Déagol found it. There's no mystery there whatsoever.
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Old 08-27-2005, 07:29 PM   #4
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Come on: this isn't the quiz room. The Gladden Fields were where the massacre of Isildur and his men took place. The Ring simply slipped off his finger as he tried to swim the Anduin, then lay on the riverbed until Déagol found it. There's no mystery there whatsoever.
Why was he venturing in the Gladden Fields?
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Old 08-27-2005, 08:11 PM   #5
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From Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age:
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The Ruling Ring passed out of the knowledge even of the Wise in that age; yet it was not unmade. For Isildur would not surrender it to Elrond and Círdan who stood by. They counselled him to cast it into the fire of Orodruin nigh at hand, in which it had been forged, so that it should perish, and the power of Sauron be for ever diminished, and he should remain only as a shadow of malice in the wilderness. But Isildur refused this counsel, saying: ‘This I will have as were-gild for my father's death, and my brothers. Was it not I that dealt the Enemy his death-blow?' And the Ring that he held seemed to him exceedingly fair to look on; and he would not suffer it to be destroyed. Taking it therefore he returned at first to Minas Anor, and there planted the White Tree in memory of his brother Anárion. But soon he departed, and after he had given counsel to Meneldil, his brother's son, and had committed to him the realm of the south, he bore away the Ring, to be an heirloom of his house, and marched north from Gondor by the way that Elendil had come; and he forsook the South Kingdom, for he purposed to take up his father's realm in Eriador, far from the shadow of the Black Land.

But Isildur was overwhelmed by a host of Orcs that lay in wait in the Misty Mountains; and they descended upon him at unawares in his camp between the Greenwood and the Great River, nigh to Loeg Ningloron, the Gladden Fields, for he was heedless and set no guard, deeming that all his foes were overthrown. There well nigh all his people were slain, and among them were his three elder sons, Elendur, Aratan, and Ciryon; but his wife and his youngest son, Valandil, he had left in Imladris when he went to the war. Isildur himself escaped by means of the Ring, for when he wore it he was invisible to all eyes; but the Orcs hunted him by scent and slot, until he came to the River and plunged in. There the Ring betrayed him and avenged its maker, for it slipped from his finger as he swam, and it was lost in the water. Then the Orcs saw him as he laboured in the stream, and they shot him with many arrows, and that was his end. Only three of his people came ever back over the mountains after long wandering; and of these one was Ohtar his esquire, to whose keeping he had given the shards of the sword of Elendil.
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Old 08-29-2005, 02:00 PM   #6
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It is said that Galadriel's longing for the sea became so strong that she & Celeborn decided to dwell in Dol Amroth. This has been several years since the the One has been lost deep in the Anduin. It was only after the time when the first shadows of Mirkwood were felt, & at the awakening of the Balrog that she & Celeborn decided to dwell permanently in Lorinand. So my question is, has she been wielding the power of Nenya (like say in Dol Amroth) even before she came to Lorien? For it was said that Nenya increased this yearning & was the reason why she dwelt in Dol Amroth. And when did Elrond start using his ring?
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Old 09-09-2005, 08:07 AM   #7
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- Does anybody know if Sauron with the ring became mightier to the point where his strength could rival a Vala, or did it just augment his power to the point of surpassing Eönwë?

- In the War of Wrath, did the Valar only send the Noldor & Vanyar? Did they not come themselves?

- What exactly is Ancalagon? I know he is a winged Dragon but was he a maia because it seemed like he was the most powerful out of Gothmog, Sauron, & Glaurung?
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