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View Poll Results: Canonicity means:
The author's published works, during his lifetime 3 15.00%
The author's published works including those edited/published posthumously 5 25.00%
ALL of the author's works, notes, letters, and ideas, published or not, conflicting or not 9 45.00%
What the reading community says is Canon 0 0%
What the BarrowDowns community says is Canon 1 5.00%
What the critics say is Canon 0 0%
Canon is whatever I, the reader, want it to be 1 5.00%
Something completely (or slightly) different [if you choose this last option, please explain yourself in the thread. Thank you] 1 5.00%
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Old 08-21-2005, 05:30 AM   #23
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No, you can't blame Oblo for your pertinacity, davem, for your number of posts on the issue has long out-run his.
I'm not 'blaming' Oblo . I was merely pointing out the starting point of this discussion.

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TH belongs there because,it was TH which made LoTR possible.
No, it was The Sil which made LotR possible. If The Sil had not existed there would have been no LotR. TH provided the reason for Tolkien beginning LotR. That reason was soon left behind & LotR became the culmination of The Sil, not the sequel to TH.

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Yet others are free also to demur that this form of argument prioritises some texts over others on the basis of what they perceive as a faulty argument.
I think everyone has accepted that the tone & mood of TH is 'unique', that the Elves, Trolls, Goblins, the narrative voice & even the character of Gandalf are 'wrong' in the context of the rest of the Legendarium. The only arguments against my position seem to be 1 - Tolkien wrote TH & it makes references to The Sil & 2 - Bilbo was 'elaborating' his story & had a middle-class bias against against 'foreigners'.

Nobody has provided a convincing argument that TH fits the mood & tone of the rest of the Legendarium.
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