Magic in Middle-earth

[Saulotus]

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Re: Man who fotgot his name

I have more time now.

<blockquote>Quote:<hr> 1 only after it was allowed by Eru<hr></blockquote>
Right. The extention of the line of Elros, not any and all life extention (an unnatural act)

<blockquote>Quote:<hr> 2 there is no one more fitting for such a deed, and even so I do reject the idea of him capable of life prolonging<hr></blockquote>
So where did Isildur gain the ability to CURSE a people? According to you, he would need the permission of the Valar or Eru.

<blockquote>Quote:<hr> 3 wizards were spirits of higher origin, maiar whos life begun before the beginnongs of the world<hr></blockquote>
Nope, sorry dude. The Wizards (Istari) gained that name upon travelling to Middle-earth. Gandalf grows old slower than normal, he doesn't stay the same age. Wizard is NOT a translation of Maiar. It is of Men who perform magic (the fact that these men are cloaked maiar is irrelevant), otherwise the White council would have KNOWN who was in Dol Guldur (a Maia) instead of only suspecting some possible servant of Melkor.
Kinda why the big expedition to discover the truth.

<blockquote>Quote:<hr> 4 and who said voluntary service? have anyone witnessed any servant of Dark Lord and a free man
(elf, orc, dwarf, hobbit etc). Is not it stated, that &quot;Dark lord needs no free subjects, but slaves?<hr></blockquote>
Needs and has are different. The Black Numenoreans long ago WILLINGLY switched allegiance to Sauron in the days of Numenor. They do not need to be coerced, or ground into servitude. They serve willingly, for power.


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