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Old 09-03-2005, 10:08 PM   #1
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Hmph! Looks like this month is ruined.

I had finally saved up enough money to buy a few nice things and enjoy myself a bit, but instead I have a fair chance of being killed sometime in the next couple weeks.

My, how fortune turns.
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If I had any suspicions, it would be the Saucepan Man and mormegil (don't get mad at me for that my dear old friend) due to their rashness in automatically accusing people
Though I might be inclined to have a similar gut reaction to their early finger pointing, the fact remains that we must decide on someone to lynch before the day is out, and we can't reach such a decision without a bit of finger pointing first. I don't really see anything wrong with people making guesses and speaking their mind.

For one thing, it gives us some information to work with. The more people accuse and defend, the better idea we villagers will get of who is in league with who, and who is avoiding who. Perhaps one of the culprits may even slip up? Not likely, but we can hope.

Of course, I'll probably get all upset when someone points a finger at me, so I'm not saying you can't get mad if a finger is pointed at you- but try not to use that as a basis for guilt. It is simply the way this must be done.

I'd also like to make a proposition- a deal with the devil, you might say.

Whoever the werebear is, listen carefully.

If the reports from the trackers are true, we are dealing with three werewolves and one werebear. Whoever the bear is, please realize that the wolves are your enemies just as much as we villagers are. The only way you can rule supreme is if you kill the wolves.

I would like to ask you if you could try and kill the wolves at night. Chances are you will be wrong most of the time and will end up killing an innocent (which is something you want to do anyway, so failing won't hurt your cause), but if you are trying your best then perhaps you will take at least one down. Yes, it will help us innocents, but it will help you as well.

You, as a solitary operative, will be much harder for us to find than the wolves, therefore you should fear the wolves more than us, for the wolves can kill you at night and also win the game by leveling the population. And if you think of it that way, by killing an innocent each night you are actually helping the wolves reach their population goal twice as fast.

I think it might be beneficial for you (and for us) to try and take out wolves at night to thin their ranks.

And I don't want to hear any of you people whining about me trying to cut a deal with the bear. Cutting a deal with the bear is how I'm trying to help this village. There is not much we can do against the evil that has risen against us, so we need to use every means available.
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Old 09-03-2005, 11:33 PM   #2
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next thing you know my bird is going to be werewolf food!
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Old 09-04-2005, 01:52 AM   #3
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Not Enca! I never truly enjoyed her tedious stories, but still, she was always very polite... And my scarves looked ever so good on her.

I don't want to believe anyone of us could be so violent and cruel. But if I have to accuse someone, I am inclined to suspect Wilwarin538, for with her fast needlework, she's been trying to put me out of business since forever. Surely that is a clear sign of evilness.

But I don't know. *wails* And I'm scared.

I will crochet something nice for poor Enca. Let's hope she finds peace in a better place than this cursed, were-infested town.
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Old 09-04-2005, 06:26 AM   #4
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Alas my dear friend Encaitare, she always had marvelous taste in clothing. I will indeed miss her greatly.

I've noticed people have already tossed names around, I'm not at all suspicious of those who have already suspected someone, since its such a bold move. I am more suspicious of those who have hardly said a thing, like Alcarillo, Wayne, Holbytlass and Azealia, just to name a few.
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Old 09-04-2005, 06:32 AM   #5
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I think perhaps we should wait until we have heard from almost everyone before we start pointing fingers...How can anyone be truly suspected until we get to know everyone? Or, barring that, at least hear from them once or twice. There are many people who haven't said anything at all yet...Surely they should get a fair say?
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Old 09-04-2005, 06:47 AM   #6
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Poor Enca! She was such a lovely girl, and had promised to write me all those little signs for my flowers in that beautiful handwriting of hers. Her death was a tragedy to be sure, but so was the trampling of my garden! Now it seems that we have a bear and wolves on the loose I don't know if there's any point in trying to repair it before they go digging everything up again. I was trying all morning to at least tidy things up a bit so I apologise for my late arrival here.

Anyway it seems that there have been a lot of random accusation flying around with my name among them for my misfortune in living next to Enca. I suppose though that this is the best strategy we have at the moment to find these accursed wolves so I'll live with it and make my own. If I had to choose three people who were wolves I think I would go for:
Meneltarmacil
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The werebear I have no idea about. the phantom's plan for a deal with this creature does seem a good one. At least if it is trying to kill wolves it is less likely to kill the rest of us. But I fear that the creature may not agree to this plan. Still, if it doesn't we are no worse off than before (it would be difficult to imagine being any worse off actually) and if it does then it helps us. I was almost inclined to suspect the phantom for making the plan as some kind of double-bluff but after weighing it up I think it is too helpful to us to be the invention of a werecreature. Though he still merits watching.

But then, all of this is pure speculation. We have no facts and won't for a while yet.
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Old 09-04-2005, 07:54 AM   #7
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Alas, and so doth poor Enca pass to shadow. Would that I could muse with her once more, discussing the metaphysical beauty of a badger's snout or the sollipsistic whinings of a barbershop quartet of weasels. Ah, she shall be missed as a lover misses his heart, stolen by his maiden.

But wait, what do I see: Kath accuseth me of foul, wolf shaped treachery! Oh, the outrage! Still, I shall not hold such wild accusations against her, she merely saw that I had yet to talk, forgot that today was badger milking day and so accused me. I shall let it slide.

Such first day lists are just crazy antics, fuelled by the inherit paranoia of living in a village with four murderous wretches wandering the streets by night. There is little that one can draw from them. When, however, they occur down the line of Swankytown, they should be viewed with some suspicion.

Now, Herr Phantom, you talk of striking a deal with the devil? But I put it to you, good sir, that you are in fact the devil himself, that is: the bear! *gasps from the gallery* Did you not formulate this plan to kill the wolves, thus helping yourself, and then almost fall off your seat when you realised that an audacious twist could be added: you would plead with the bear and then later in the game, when the wolves were all dead and suspicions turned on you, quote this post and say something like "Hey, why would the bear appeal to himself? Don't waste my time!" And then we'd all spank ourselves for being so insolent as to even suspect the phantom. I look forward to your reply.
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Old 09-04-2005, 08:20 AM   #8
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Because I have seen them associated with bad numbers (see poor Enca's second to last words)... Saucie most certainly is 'lo'...Cailín is definitely 'la'...and Azaelia has recently been seen as 'le'. Mysterious that these be so closely related, pinned as strange a trio by numbers....

And as for teh w3r3b3ar...the guy who be short, the one so closely associated with 'a'....
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Old 09-04-2005, 09:44 AM   #9
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Because I have seen them associated with bad numbers (see poor Enca's second to last words)... Saucie most certainly is 'lo'...Cailín is definitely 'la'...and Azaelia has recently been seen as 'le'. Mysterious that these be so closely related, pinned as strange a trio by numbers....
I'm afraid I am missing something important..."lo, la, le"? Clarification, please?

I would also like to know why suspicion is falling on me, when there are others who have yet even to speak? Of course, I understand that fingers must be pointed almost randomly, since we have no idea who is what.
For my part, I will not voice suspicion or accuse anyone until we've heard from everyone. There are still some who have yet to speak.
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Old 09-04-2005, 08:29 AM   #10
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Now, Herr Phantom, you talk of striking a deal with the devil? But I put it to you, good sir, that you are in fact the devil himself, that is: the bear!
Don't be silly. As you are aware, I am a very logical person. No matter what I am, werewolf, werebear, or villager, you can bet that anything I do is meant to help myself in a logical fashion. And my proposition to the werebear would be incredibly illogical if I was indeed the werebear.

The fact is, because the werebear has no teammates, he/she does not care who dies in each round of voting and such, therefore it is nearly impossible to spot the werebear based on votes. Because of this, the werebear will blend in with everyone else, and there is no way to stop him/her from doing this. It is obviously the safest way for the werebear to behave.

The moment I tried to make a deal with the bear, I KNEW someone would accuse me of pulling a double bluff. My deal calls attention to me- it draws a line between the werebear and I. There is NO WAY the actual werebear would do something like this.

There is no reason for the bear to "bluff" or "double bluff". There is no advantage to be gained. All the werebear has to do is play like everyone else. It would be stupid of him/her to come out and draw attention to himself/herself- even in an attempted double bluff. The risk is not worth it.

What I have done makes it much more likely that the seer will dream of me tonight- something that the bear would want to avoid at all costs.

The fact is, if I was the bear, I would not have been stupid enough to link myself to the bear. It is not logical. And I'm slightly upset that you would think that I am truly that stupid.
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I agree with this point, Wilwa.

If we are going to randomly kill someone, it makes sense (to me anyway) to kill someone quiet.

I say this because loud people always give you information to work with. Everyone knows that I am going to say plenty. The Saucepan Man and mormegil are also known for being extremely outspoken. This means that we are going to provide you with evidence to use either for us or against us. You will have an idea of where we stand.

That is not true of the quiet folk, which is why they are dangerous. They give us no information to base our accusations on.

When in doubt, lynch someone who you think won't say all that much. I know it seems pretty mean- but no matter who we lynch it'll be pretty mean since we obviously have no suspects at this time.

I have to be going, but I will be back towards the end of the day to help wrap things up.
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Old 09-04-2005, 09:34 AM   #11
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One of the reasons why suspect Wayne. And because of his teeth comment. You have some explaing to do! Better be a good reason there Wayne, or you could be in big trouble. But we still haven't heard anything from others, like Gil (not a whole lot anyway) and Bergil. And I'm not voting for anybody until we've heard from them.
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Old 09-04-2005, 09:46 AM   #12
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I realize that some have become suspicious of me, for three reasons:

1. "Unsympatheticness" to Enca's death.
2. Menel's 20-sided die.
3. I have not said much.

The first two of these don't hold much merit. The first is simply explained by being in character. The last, the only one that seems sensible, can be explained by some people having to sleep.

Who do I think are the wolves? Like the rest of you I will put forth nearly random lists, based mostly on occupations and such:

1. WaynetheDentist

That tooth comment was a little too wierd.

2. Morm

He's always travelling between the villages. Who knows if those were his previous victims?

3. tgwbs!

Because I want to be mayor for another term.

Although we should all wait to hear what they have to say before we cast votes. Like I said, this is a pretty random-ish list. I also think Menel might've unleashed a bear upon the village. Or it might be Bergil's fault, making faulty cages. Who puts animals in cages of wood? Use iron! And I like the phantom's bargain with the bear. It gets rid of those werewolves more quickly!
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Old 09-04-2005, 08:15 AM   #13
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the phantom's plan at first seemed really were creature-ish if you ask me. But I think he is just thinking o this plan for the benefit of the village. I have no suspicion of the phantom at all.

I am now more suspicious Wayne. As Shelob said:

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how exactly does our loss effect your teeth, unless maybe you chipped them on something unusual last night?
Please Wayne, explain yourself.

My main suspicons lie on Wayne now. I am truly sorry for ever suspecting you mormegil my friend. Even though you ahve only been here I short time, it feels like I've known you for ever. And my apologies to you as well Saucepan Man.
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