Werewolf IX: the Saga Owns You and You Know It

[SamwiseGamgee]

Alas, and so doth poor Enca pass to shadow. Would that I could muse with her once more, discussing the metaphysical beauty of a badger's snout or the sollipsistic whinings of a barbershop quartet of weasels. Ah, she shall be missed as a lover misses his heart, stolen by his maiden.

But wait, what do I see: Kath accuseth me of foul, wolf shaped treachery! Oh, the outrage! Still, I shall not hold such wild accusations against her, she merely saw that I had yet to talk, forgot that today was badger milking day and so accused me. I shall let it slide.

Such first day lists are just crazy antics, fuelled by the inherit paranoia of living in a village with four murderous wretches wandering the streets by night. There is little that one can draw from them. When, however, they occur down the line of Swankytown, they should be viewed with some suspicion.

Now, Herr Phantom, you talk of striking a deal with the devil? But I put it to you, good sir, that you are in fact the devil himself, that is: the bear! *gasps from the gallery* Did you not formulate this plan to kill the wolves, thus helping yourself, and then almost fall off your seat when you realised that an audacious twist could be added: you would plead with the bear and then later in the game, when the wolves were all dead and suspicions turned on you, quote this post and say something like "Hey, why would the bear appeal to himself? Don't waste my time!" And then we'd all spank ourselves for being so insolent as to even suspect the phantom. I look forward to your reply.

[Durelin]

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The Saucepan Man
Cailín
Azaelia of Willowbottom

Because I have seen them associated with bad numbers (see poor Enca's second to last words)... Saucie most certainly is 'lo'...Cailín is definitely 'la'...and Azaelia has recently been seen as 'le'. Mysterious that these be so closely related, pinned as strange a trio by numbers....

And as for teh w3r3b3ar...the guy who be short, the one so closely associated with 'a'....

[Azaelia of Willowbottom]

Originally Posted by Durelin

The Saucepan Man
Cailín
Azaelia of Willowbottom

Because I have seen them associated with bad numbers (see poor Enca's second to last words)... Saucie most certainly is 'lo'...Cailín is definitely 'la'...and Azaelia has recently been seen as 'le'. Mysterious that these be so closely related, pinned as strange a trio by numbers....

I'm afraid I am missing something important..."lo, la, le"? Clarification, please?

I would also like to know why suspicion is falling on me, when there are others who have yet even to speak? Of course, I understand that fingers must be pointed almost randomly, since we have no idea who is what.
For my part, I will not voice suspicion or accuse anyone until we've heard from everyone. There are still some who have yet to speak.

[the phantom]

Now, Herr Phantom, you talk of striking a deal with the devil? But I put it to you, good sir, that you are in fact the devil himself, that is: the bear!

Don't be silly. As you are aware, I am a very logical person. No matter what I am, werewolf, werebear, or villager, you can bet that anything I do is meant to help myself in a logical fashion. And my proposition to the werebear would be incredibly illogical if I was indeed the werebear.

The fact is, because the werebear has no teammates, he/she does not care who dies in each round of voting and such, therefore it is nearly impossible to spot the werebear based on votes. Because of this, the werebear will blend in with everyone else, and there is no way to stop him/her from doing this. It is obviously the safest way for the werebear to behave.

The moment I tried to make a deal with the bear, I KNEW someone would accuse me of pulling a double bluff. My deal calls attention to me- it draws a line between the werebear and I. There is NO WAY the actual werebear would do something like this.

There is no reason for the bear to "bluff" or "double bluff". There is no advantage to be gained. All the werebear has to do is play like everyone else. It would be stupid of him/her to come out and draw attention to himself/herself- even in an attempted double bluff. The risk is not worth it.

What I have done makes it much more likely that the seer will dream of me tonight- something that the bear would want to avoid at all costs.

The fact is, if I was the bear, I would not have been stupid enough to link myself to the bear. It is not logical. And I'm slightly upset that you would think that I am truly that stupid.

I am more suspicious of those who have hardly said a thing

I agree with this point, Wilwa.

If we are going to randomly kill someone, it makes sense (to me anyway) to kill someone quiet.

I say this because loud people always give you information to work with. Everyone knows that I am going to say plenty. The Saucepan Man and mormegil are also known for being extremely outspoken. This means that we are going to provide you with evidence to use either for us or against us. You will have an idea of where we stand.

That is not true of the quiet folk, which is why they are dangerous. They give us no information to base our accusations on.

When in doubt, lynch someone who you think won't say all that much. I know it seems pretty mean- but no matter who we lynch it'll be pretty mean since we obviously have no suspects at this time.

I have to be going, but I will be back towards the end of the day to help wrap things up.

[Glirdan]

I am more suspicious of those who have hardly said a thing, like Alcarillo, Wayne, Holbytlass and Azealia, just to name a few.

One of the reasons why suspect Wayne. And because of his teeth comment. You have some explaing to do! Better be a good reason there Wayne, or you could be in big trouble. But we still haven't heard anything from others, like Gil (not a whole lot anyway) and Bergil. And I'm not voting for anybody until we've heard from them.

[Kitanna]

I'm trying to decide if Wayne's teeth comment was just to be funny or if he's trying to throw us off. Either way it's quite annoying.

Others have been saying they suspect SpM and morm. At the moment I find no reason to truly suspect them. Pulling out a group of names is just a way to start. Besides they're logical and can be a great help (provided they're not wolves that is).

phantom's "make a deal with the bear" is slightly odd, but I think if anything phantom would be the cobbler with that kind of idea.

What I have done makes it much more likely that the seer will dream of me tonight- something that the bear would want to avoid at all costs.

I think he may be on to something with that.

[Glirdan]

phantom's "make a deal with the bear" is slightly odd, but I think if anything phantom would be the cobbler with that kind of idea.

Come to think of it Kitanna, his comment did seem kind of Cobblerish. You might be on to something there. I think now we should be keeping an eye out on him and Wayne. And now, because of what Alcarillo said about TGWBS, I'm starting to suspect or beloved mayor. We have a few people to be keeping our eyes on.

[Durelin]

Originally Posted by The Flowery Lass

I'm afraid I am missing something important..."lo, la, le"? Clarification, please?

10. Saucepan Man - mushroom harvester
14. Cailín - constant crocheter
13. Azaelia of Willowbottom - flower-selling lass

lo
la
le

I can only look at numbers, as there is little else to see...

[Holbytlass]

Do you know what would happen if I didn't collect everyday?!

All that has been said in the past 17 hours or so is all bunk. We all know it is throws in the dark, even if some accusation is true, it was pure luck, except what the seer has to say about one person. But it is still important bunk, to get the ball rolling.
As for myself I am most incline to believe The Phantom. While I do think he is smart for a double-bluff, I think he definitely would think of all possibilities about drawing attention to himself, especially from the seer.
And I agree to get rid of quiets first in these initial days even if I'm on the list.

[Glirdan]

Yes, the phantom is definitely smart enogh for a double-bluff, but I don't think he's a werecreature. I think he's probably the cobbler because then he wouldn't have to worry about the seer because the seer sees the cobbler as an ord. I would suspect the phantom as the cobbler than anything else. I know I for one will definetly be keeping an eye on him from now on. But Wayne is still ast the top of my list.

[Shelob]

And I'm not voting for anybody until we've heard from them.

Same, unless of course it gets too close to days end for comfort and we still have heard little or none from them...

As to more recent doings, namely the Phantom's werebear plan, I don't see it as being necessarily suspicious. Kath's probably spoken the closest to how I see it; It's not enough to name the Phantom as a high suspect and it's not enough to dismiss him from the lists. Mind you, usually only death's enough to take you from the list of the suspicious, anyone still breathing has breath in them to lie.

For my own suspicions, I would still like an explanation from WaynetheGoblin before doing anything but he's definately high on my list. It doesn't ususally do to just "go with the flow", but seeing as we've no other clues beyond general opinion I would say that Meneltarmacil needs to address all the accusations towards him before I make any further choices. Though that probably goes for Bergil and a few others too. I would say that beyond those my highest suspects would be our political duo (it's possible they've taken they're typical wrangling to new lows), but that could just be a natural dislike of politicians making itself known.

Finally I would repeat the wish of many, that those who have said little speak up and give us more to work with.

[Alcarillo]

I realize that some have become suspicious of me, for three reasons:

1. "Unsympatheticness" to Enca's death.
2. Menel's 20-sided die.
3. I have not said much.

The first two of these don't hold much merit. The first is simply explained by being in character. The last, the only one that seems sensible, can be explained by some people having to sleep.

Who do I think are the wolves? Like the rest of you I will put forth nearly random lists, based mostly on occupations and such:

1. WaynetheDentist

That tooth comment was a little too wierd.

2. Morm

He's always travelling between the villages. Who knows if those were his previous victims?

3. tgwbs!

Because I want to be mayor for another term.

Although we should all wait to hear what they have to say before we cast votes. Like I said, this is a pretty random-ish list. I also think Menel might've unleashed a bear upon the village. Or it might be Bergil's fault, making faulty cages. Who puts animals in cages of wood? Use iron! And I like the phantom's bargain with the bear. It gets rid of those werewolves more quickly!