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Shade of Carn Dûm
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: In the warm bosom of a Warg
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Well, well, well, articstorm. That certainly is an interesting theory. I have done little research into Gothmog, but I must say I think your post may be the final answer to all the issues of all the scholars. I shall return and post as soon as I know more!
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Auspicious Wraith
Join Date: May 2002
Location: The Netherlands
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This makes so much sense. And on first impression, it appears to be yet another case of the Wargs being treated with naught but disdain by the authors of the Red Book.
See the painstaking description of the Nazgûl all throughout the book. Witness the bone-chilling introduction of the Mouth of Sauron at the Black Gate. Yet Gothmog is treated as an afterthought. How could this be the case were tradition correct and Gothmog was to be thought of as a Ringwraith or a Black Númenórean? It is still possible that Gothmog was an Orc, but I doubt this greatly. Gothmog was a Warg and once again we have to face this harsh reality: that Wargs are slowly but surely being eliminated from history. It makes me crumple with despair; and boil with fury. Great work arcticstorm!
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Are all cases the work of the evil Anti-Warg group? Could there not be some cases in which the Wargs themselves have suppressed the true history? After all, if Gothmog of Morgul really was a Warg, would the Wargs want this to be known? After all, there are enough people Warg-bashing without adding fuel to the fire. Perhaps the Wargs have themselves worked to hide Gothmog's true story. After all, Wargs are not tame creatures...
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Shade of Carn Dûm
Join Date: Sep 2003
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That is a possibility, Form. I myself have started a false rumour on a rival thread regarding Gothmog. Why, you may ask? Well, exactly as has been suggested: we are able to understand Wargs here at The Thread, but those Warg-bashers are just waiting to pounce. Pesky scum!
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Auspicious Wraith
Join Date: May 2002
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But such a magnificent captain and fearsome warrior is worthy of recognition, even if he did use his powers for evil. What do the True Wargs think of this?
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Scion of The Faithful
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines]
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(Many thanks to Ms. Bêthberry for the suggestion.)
We could rewrite parts of the legendarium to tell the true tale, including references to Wargs, and possibly the mysterious Hares. Or . . . maybe we should drop the Hare part, as this is a thread about Wargs.
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