Werewolf IX: the Saga Owns You and You Know It

[Alcarillo]

Well, I don't think the phantom is guilty of anything. Menel is simply facing some anti-zookeeper-ism. Wayne is probably just a blundering new guy, although I might vote for him if nobody else comes along. Somebody must die today. I'd like a few more posts from those quiet people.

[Glirdan]

I'd like a few more posts from those quiet people.

I quite agree Alcarillo. Where is Gil and Bergil to defend themselves? As it stands, I might vote for Wayne. I don't see any harm in Menel seeing as he is just the zoo-keeper and as you put it Alcarillo, he is just facing "anti-zookeeper-ism" and is most likely no harm to anyone and I really don't see any harm in Samwise either, but I may vote for him. He is another who needs to defend himself.

[Holbytlass]

Unless something hugely profound comes along and I seriously doubt it, this being the first day and all, I shall be voting for Bergil because he has said nothing and has not stated elsewhere that he wouldn't be able to and it has been 19 1/2 hours to at least make an appearance.

[wilwarin538]

I agree Holby, I suppose Bergil is really the only choice we have. I will wait though before I vote, just in case.

[Kath]

Now hold on just a cotton pickin' minute because I am a little confused here. There are some people who think that the phantom is the Cobbler, and yet they are not going to vote for him. Rather they are going to vote for someone they believe to be innocent just because the phantom is loud. I do recall just warning against that but it seems no one listened. Yes, ok, we need loud and clever people but what we do not need is a loud and clever person that many people think to be in league with the werecreatures! Remember, the Cobbler is not on our side! S/he will become dangerous to us in the near future and if we don't suspect anyone of being a wolf then surely it is better to vote for a person you think to be against the village than someone you simply have not heard from.

Now I am not saying vote for the phantom because I personally don't think he is the Cobbler, but what I am saying is that if you think he is you should vote for him rather than just picking someone else at random that you don't truly have suspicions of, just to keep a loud person alive.

[Alcarillo]

Now I'm not sure if I should vote for Wayne or Bergil, but I'll probably vote for the former.

I agree with Kath that you should vote for the phantom if you think he's suspicious. Vote for who you think is guilty.

In my case, I don't have very many ideas of who's guilty and who's not, but I think lynching an unhelpful person is the best we can do.

[wilwarin538]

I don't think the phantom is the Cobbler. Even if he is though, he isn't a threat to us now, in a few Days where the cobbler could start to become a threat then I think the phantom would be most peoples first choice, not mine mind you. I don't think we should lynch someone who could have good ideas, just incase he is innocent. At this point I have no idea. Bergil is really the only one I could vote for, Wayne is still a possibility though.

[Kitanna]

Originally Posted by Kath

Now I am not saying vote for the phantom because I personally don't think he is the Cobbler, but what I am saying is that if you think he is you should vote for him rather than just picking someone else at random that you don't truly have suspicions of, just to keep a loud person alive.

You make a valid point, Kath. But allow me to say that I have my suspicions of phantom as the cobbler, but I also know there is a good chance of him being innocent. Right now I am feeling he is not a werecreature of any sort and I do not want to cast my vote for him.

None of my suspicions today have any real foundations. So no matter who I vote for it will be a shot in the dark.
I suspect Wayne for his toothy remarks and lack of defense, but I want to give him the benefit of the doubt for right now.
I suspect Samwise because he was the first to mention phantom's bear plan as a bad thing (he was not the only one thoug), but someone was bound to do that. Samwise just happened to be the first. Also Kath mentioned Samwise's over the top reaction to her accusation...strange, but right now I see that as no reason to cast him down.
Then there's Gil and Bergil who my only reason to suspect them is because of lack of posting, but I don't want to vote for either of them until they defend themselves.

So one way or the other my vote will be random and in the end will probably not count toward anything today. I do not believe any of my reasons for suspecting people are good enough to cast a vote and head them for the noose.

[Meneltarmacil]

For the record I am suspicious of the following people:

SamwiseGamgee, because of his attack on the phantom.

Bergil and Gil-Galad, due to their silence. WaynetheGoblin is a similar case, but he can be excused somewhat as stated earlier.

And the phantom himself does stand a slight chance of being the Bear, though I think it more likely that he is an innocent villager.

And now if you'll excuse me, the hippopotami must be fed.

[the guy who be short]

Hail, fellow villagers.

I have returned from business early to horror and dismay! Unfortunately, I must turn in soon, and have had only enough time to glance at the earlier proceedings, so handily noted down.

I do not know who the wolves are. I do not know who the gifted's are. I can either vote blindly, most likely get it wrong, lead the voting, probably be lynched myself, and be mistrusted or I can note vote at all.

The latter seems a lot more appealing, and would be beneficial to my continued existance. However, it would mean I was not performing my social duties.

So vote I must.

++Alcarillo for being incompetant in protecting us from wolves!

It's as good a vote as any this Day.

Good Night.

[mormegil]

I find all this talk of the phantom to be a bit ridiculous. I cannot really believe him to be a werecreature or the cobbler. No I've spent some time with the fellow during my stay in this twisted little village and I have to say that no matter what he does he appears suspicious. So the fact that he appears 'normal' seems a good sign that he's innocent. So I'm pretty sure that he's not guilty. If anything the only thing I find cobblerish is that his normal behavior took up so much talk for one day. Now I would envision a cobbler phantom being a bit more subtle till near the end. I think his idea is somewhat sound and understandable. Basically he is asking the bear to benefit him/herself and the village as well. I don't think the cobbler would ask the bear to kill the werewolves (remember he would be on their team really). So let's stop diverting our attention from the real issue and get off this mentioning the phantom in nearly every post.

TGWBS has some pretty nefarious politics if he will openly admit he wants a competitor killed.

I'm glad to see that the village would like some of those who are quiet to talk a bit more. I don't think you need to be as loud or long as SpM, the phantom or myself for example but say at least something to give us an idication as to where you stand. Especially with so many people around having a good percentage being essentially silent is rather tedious.

I guess I will hold that I find Menel suspicious, if for no other reason than a gut feeling. Sometimes you just have to trust your own instincts. Why trusting those has kept me alive so far.

I don't think Shelob is really guilty and I find that she is contributing much to the discussion.

Kath is worrying me a bit. Again something just doesn't sit right and another gut feeling.

Wayne--Let him live at least one more day

So currently I think I will vote either Kath or Menel.

[Alcarillo]

Originally Posted by the guy who be short

It's as good a vote as any this Day.

True, true.

Should I vote for Bergil or Wayne? Those are the two I think are best to be lynched. At least Wayne has said something. We have no idea about Bergil. I feel as though we should lynch the silent, if they won't help the village. So, here goes.

++Bergil

[Shelob]

As I said, far to early and with far to little to base my decision on but yet I must vote for I know not if I'll have another chance.

Given what I have I feel it's unfair to vote for someone simply because they have spoken little, if at all. For that I am then ruling out WaynetheGoblin and anyone else who has posted practically nothing. Of the three remaining from my list then I'm left with SamwiseGamgee, Phantom and Meneltarmacil. However I have nothing worth basing a vote on for any of them.

Meneltarmacil was accused randomly and early, with enough suspicion stuck to him that I can't quite shake it.

Phantom made a suggestion to the bear which would, with luck and the bear's cooperation, thin out the ranks of the wolves quickly, but this could be a cobblerish trick or a bear's way of hiding out in the open, or the suggestion of an innocent more worried by the wolves than the bear.

As to SamwiseGamgee, his reaction to Kath could be a were-ish one, or it could just be ill-phrased, his accusition of the Phantom could be a coverup, it could be gauging for a reaction.


Of those three I'm torn between Phantom or SamwiseGamgee being the more worthy of a vote. However since I feel that the Phantom has, from what little there is, a better chance of being a danger to the village I shall vote for ++The Phantom and hope.