Werewolf IX: the Saga Owns You and You Know It

[The Saucepan Man]

Thoughts duly gathered. Here they are, in case anyone finds them useful:

Folwren:
Unduly anxious about looking suspicious for having voted for Alcarillo, when she had not really been accused. Overly defensive?
Didn’t vote on Day 1 (which I still regard as supicious).
Voted for Alcarillo on Day 2 to put him ahead of Azaelia. But is now strongly accusing Azaelia.

Shelob:
Voted for the phantom on Day 1. But there was no particular reason to think him innocent then.
Her vote for Meneltarmacil on Day 2 could have been part of an effort by the Wolves to spread their votes around.
Has appeared to be helpful and contributing without really putting forward any strong views on whom she suspects.

Holbytlass:
Seems “too innocent”, if you know what I mean. Looks like she’s trying to appear innocent and helpful, but without giving too much away.
A possible pairing with Kath, given the timing of her vote for Bergil on Day 1.
Her rather baseless supicion of (and vote for) wilwarin on Day 2 is supicious, but she has since changed her position on wilwarin.
On Day 2, she could have been trying to “hide” by voting for someone unlikely to be lynched.
To my mind, Holby plays her cards very close to her chest. She only identifies one main suspect each day and sticks to that. But that could be seen as a good thing.

Meneltarmacil:
Despite my vote for him yester-Day, I really don’t think him to be a Wolf. His vote for Azaelia on Day 2 rather than Alcarillo persuades me otherwise.
Almost certainly not a Wolf if Azaelia is.

WaynetheGoblin
Difficult to say as he doesn’t really say much.
The only thing which I find at all suspicious is his failure to vote on Day 2.
I’ll keep him in the “don’t know” category.

Wilwarin538:
I am not so sure that her vote “to save two innocents” on Day 1 clears her, as she voted for another innocent, namely Bergil.
Her vote for Azaelia on Day 2 clears her if Azaelia is a Wolf.
Not much else to go on, but I tend to think her innocent.

Durelin:
Despite her accusation of me, it appears that she is trying to be helpful.
But her votes for unlikely lynching candidates (me on Day 1 and Folwren on Day 2) could be attempts to avoid suspicion.
Another don’t know, although I have my eye on her as a possible Bear since she has been successfully doing very little to garner suspicion.

The Saucepan Man:
I am innocent and I believe that the phantom’s comments speak in my favour.
I am glad that some of you here at least are prepared to give me the benefit of the doubt for the time being.

Kath:
Difficult one this. I did suspect her originally for her lack of analysis but she has been much more forthcoming recently.
She has stuck doggedly to her conviction of Menel’s guilt and has named very few other suspects, similar to Holby.
As noted above, she could be a pairing with Holby, given that Holby’s vote for Bergil on Day 1 took some of the pressure of her.
I just have a bad feeling about Kath, although it may be nothing.

Azaelia of Willowbottom:
Her last minute vote for Bergil was very strange. She claims to have panicked. If she is telling the truth, it seems to me much more likely that a Wolf would have panicked than an innocent because Wolves have more reason to consider the implications of their vote. An ordinary villager, if unsure of whom to vote for, would have just voted for someone who was unlikely to be lynched. If she is not telling the truth then she is not to be trusted.
She was the first to suggest that Alcarillo was responsible for TGWBS’s death (executing a frame-up plan?) and led the calls for Alcarillo’s lynching.
She hardly ever accuses anyone except the person she votes for.
She has voted for two known innocents.
She seems to have been the phantom’s only real suspect. Was he getting too close for comfort?

Cailín:
Another “don’t know”.
Her vote for Alcarillo is not overly suspicious as she was only the second person to vote for him.
She seems to be trying to help the village’s cause, and I have no particular reason to suspect her.
Which of course makes me slightly suspicious.

Nilpaurion Felagund
I think it’s pretty clear now that he is the second shirriff.

Gil-Galad:
He has said very little of consequence, although I’m sure that he knows that this is bound to attract suspicion.
He seemed very proud of himself for voting for Kitanna, and eager to make sure everyone knew about it. He had no reason to know, when he voted, that she was the Cobbler, so perhaps he was using this to try to establish a false innocence.
Definitely suspicious.

Glirdan:
Flip-flopper and seemingly over-eager to please. I originally put this down to naïve excitement, but now I’m not so sure.
He has voted for two known innocents, and with quite suspicious timing too.
Could be paired with Kath for the timing of his vote for Bergil on Day 1, or with either Azaelia or Menel (but not both) for the timing of his vote for Alcarillo on Day 2.
Over the top grieving for our fallen villagers, but this could just be “in character” interplay.

So, in summary:

Top suspects: Azaelia and Glirdan. Azaelia edges it on the evidence and because I still have this nagging feeling that Glirdan is simply guileless.
Secondary suspects: Holbytlass, Folwren, Kath, Gil-Galad and Shelob.
Don’t knows: Cailín, Durelin and WaynetheGoblin.
Probably not Wolves: Meneltarmacil and wilwarin.
Definitely innocent: Nilpaurion and The Saucepan Man.

[The Saucepan Man]

Glirdan has three votes already and Azaelia has none!

We need to try to keep these Wolves on their toes.

So, without further ado (and for the reasons previously stated):

++AZAELIA OF WILLOWBOTTOM

[Shelob]

Carrying on with my suspicion from yesterday I think I'm going to vote

++MENELTARMACIL

again.

[Meneltarmacil]

Having stated my reasons for who I think is most guilty, my vote goes to

++Shelob

The tigers are probably getting pretty hungry about now, so I'll be off feeding them.

[The Saucepan Man]

It certainly seems like Menel has a policy of refusing to cast the vote most likely to save his own skin.

Surely, with 6 votes left (including from some who those have accused him to-Day), he would have voted for Glirdan, or even Azaelia or Gil-Galad, if he were a beast.

He is either a beast who likes living on the edge, or completely and thoroughly innocent ...

[The Saucepan Man]

The votes currently stand at:

Glirdan - 3
Gil-Galad - 1
Menel - 2
Azaelia - 2
Shelob - 1

[Durelin]

You're a bit of a contradiction today, Cailín! You spoke of following, and now you vote for Glirdan...interesting.

But Meneltmarcil's recent vote upsets me. I am nowhere near sure of anyone'sinnocence, except the poor souls who have perished, but his vote for Shelob is quite intriguing, and perhaps revealing. With two votes against him, he votes for one person who voted for him. Still, he would have had a better chance by voting for Glirdan like the rest. So, perhaps Saucie is right about him, and my reaction to his vote is baseless.

*sighs* Another almost blind vote... I don't know where we'll be if it's another innocent, which it most likely will be.

What can I say, I'm a pessimist?

I am also a contradiction today, and I take back my comment on Cailín. I suppose it doesn't do much good going against the crowd altogether...one person will still get lynched today.

++AZAELIA OF WILLOWBOTTOM

Saucepan Man's list was helpful. The arguments against her make the most sense to me, and as I said before...what's the point of voting for someone, knowing that there is hardly a chance this will affect anything. The only point to avoiding being counted among the lynchee votes is staying away from blame if they are innocent. I have no reason to do that.

I hope we've got ourselves a wolf, though as always, I'm skeptical as well as pessimistic. At least we'll see if Saucie can be trusted for sure.

[Holbytlass]

I'm not sure of anyone right this second, so I will be the 'suspicious' second vote for
++Azaelia

to keep the wolves on their toes.

[Durelin]

A tie... I almost regret my vote... A double lynching certainly is not in order... I'm glad there are several votes to go.

[The Saucepan Man]

I suspect that Holby cross-posted with you Durelin.

But Folwren, Azaelia, Gil-Galad and Wayne are yet to vote. At least two of those are likely to do so.

So it won't necessarily be a tie.

[Azaelia of Willowbottom]

So sorry, I was at school and then had a meeting.

Originally Posted by Sauce

She was the first to suggest that Alcarillo was responsible for TGWBS’s death (executing a frame-up plan?) and led the calls for Alcarillo’s lynching.
She hardly ever accuses anyone except the person she votes for.
She has voted for two known innocents.
She seems to have been the phantom’s only real suspect. Was he getting too close for comfort?

I know I've looked far too suspicious over the course of the game, and I did indeed vote for two "known innocents"...but the thing of it is, no one knew that Alcarillo and Bergil were innocent at the time. (Except maybe Phantom, but we'll never know that for sure.). I never accused anyone except for who I voted for because I voted for the person I found the most suspicious. If you go back to my post about Alcarillo after TGWBS' death, I did suggest that it was a frame-up plan.

Actually, I had (and have) absoloutely nothing against the Phantom . I know that fingers are pointed at the wrong people all over the place in this game. I was not concerned that he expressed suspicion of me, since everyone else has, too.

If an innocent is lynched today, the were-villager ratio is going to be really unbalanced. I am particularly frustrated because I am innocent, and it seems that the "Kill Zali" bandwagon is picking up steam. If you want the weres to win, by all means, lynch me. I'm not at all gifted or a werewolf/bear...but that is a threat. If I die, the rest of you innocents are facing a rather bleak future as a village. Please. Just consider it.

[The Saucepan Man]

Originally Posted by Azaelia

If you go back to my post about Alcarillo after TGWBS' death, I did suggest that it was a frame-up plan.

Of course you did. You wanted to be able to point back to it in case it became an issue, as you have just done. But the very fact that you mentioned it, right there at the beginning of the Day, strengthens my view that you were one of those who conceived it as a plan.

And your attempt to appeal to those yet to vote reeks of a Wolfish ploy to escape the noose.

Why do you not vote now to save yourself? Or is it because your Wolfish pal, Glirdan is also facing the gallows and you are waiting to see whether anyone else is going to vote?

[Encaitare]

The villagers assembled in the square feeling that they had achieved a victory. No longer would there be two corpses waiting for them each morning. Yet they realized that their number was still dwindling, and they would have to do their very best to catch the Wolves, all three of which were still alive. And indeed, someone was not among them that morning: the Saucepan Man.

His home was near the dark woods, since he often ventured into the thick forest to search for rare mushrooms. Warily eyeing the woods, which were foreboding even in the daylight, the villagers entered his home.

The living room looked completely normal. In fact, everything looked too normal. The villagers decided to poke around a little bit. There were several items from Saucie’s fungus collection scattered about, and a tray of stuffed mushrooms was on the table. A few paring knives were safely in the wooden rack. But upon closer inspection, they saw that the rack was stained with something dark. They pulled out the knives to see that the Wolves had not even bothered to clean their murderous weapons.

“There’s got to be a body around here somewhere,” one villager said. But there was nothing under the table, or behind the couch. Nor was there a body in the other rooms of the small house.

“What about in that big cabinet?” someone asked.

“I don’t think so,” another responded. “That’s where he keeps all his mushrooms. Would a body fit in there?” They pulled open the door just to check. And lo and behold, there was the body of the Saucepan Man, wedged onto a shelf between the jars which held his wares.

Most of the flesh and muscle had been carved from his body so that what remained glistened sickeningly at the villagers. And a sign hung around his neck: “We made you a little snack.”

Slowly, the villagers turned to look in horror at the platter of mushrooms stuffed with a special Sauce.


Living:

Folwren
Shelob
Holbytlass
Meneltarmacil
WaynetheGoblin
wilwarin538
Durelin
Kath
Cailín
Nilpaurion Felagund
Gil-Galad


The Deceased:

Encaitare (Moderator) - Stuck full of quills by Wolves on NIGHT 1
Llama (Mammal) - Mauled into oblivion by Black Beorning on NIGHT 1
Bergil (Ordinary Villager) - Crushed under the gallows on DAY 1
SamwiseGamgee (Ordinary Villager) – Killed by Hunter on NIGHT 2
TGWBS (Hunter) – Impaled by Wolves on NIGHT 2
Kitanna (Cobbler) – Given a TV closeup by Black Beorning on NIGHT 2
Alcarillo (Ordinary Villager) - Dismembered by villagers on DAY 2
Mormegil (Shirriff) - Charmed by Black Beorning on NIGHT 3
The Phantom (Seer) - Rendered blind by Wolves on NIGHT 3
Azaelia of Willowbottom (Ordinary Villager) - Lynched by villagers on DAY 3
Glirdan (Bear) - Pincushioned by villagers on DAY 3
The Saucepan Man (Ordinary Villager) – Stuffed into mushrooms by Wolves on NIGHT 4

It is now DAY 4. Converse!