Tol-in-Gaurhoth (Isle of Werewolves)

[Formendacil]

Originally Posted by The Saucepan Man

Formendacil, if the game starts Thursday evening, you'll be around for the start of Day 1, miss Night 1 and then be back towards the end of Day 2, which I don't see as a problem at all.

Noted.

And, as our Mod so graciously has permitted me a day or two's grace, then I most eager to remain in the game.

And although I am not a huge fan of the RP element, if you need a handle for me, you may call me:

"The Newspaper Editor-in-Chief Emeritus, Ph.D" (or just "the editor")

[Cailín]

I'd love to play in Holby's game, if there's still room left for another player... Otherwise, I'll sit this one out.

I'm a she by the way, and to make that painfully obvious I'll be a dramatic soprano.

If I can still play, of course.

[dancing spawn of ungoliant]

Is there still room? I'd like to play but if it's fully booked I don't mind sitting this one out.

EDIT: If it's probable that the game won't be finished before 10th October, just ignore this post.

[The Saucepan Man]

I believe that Cailin has claimed the final Werewolf XI place.

But, as morm noted, there is still ample room in Glirdan's Werewolf Jr game. So, if anyone who is not signed up here wants to play, feel free to sign up for that one. You don't have to be a novice.

[Holbytlass]

Players:

Mormegil(M)-blacksmith specializing in weaponry
The Perky Ent(M)-pipeweed pusher, I mean salesman
Formendacil(M)-The Newspaper Editor-in-Chief Emeritus, Ph.D
Wilwarin(F)-sketchydrawer
TheSaucepanMan(M)-big beefy lumberjack
EomeroftheRohirrim(M)-Purveyor of Mystical Oddments
Shelob(F)-official pebble painter
ArcticStorm(M)-preacher
Gil-Galad(M)-Gonzalo the Llama Paladin Conqueror of distant lands
Alcarillo(M)-silversmith
AbercrombieofRohan(F)-anchoress
Marcolie Lamen(F)-Math book editor
AzaeliaofWillowbottom(F)-grassbasket maker
Boromir88(M)-brain unwasher (deprogrammer)
Cailin(F)-dramatic soprano

~Don't forget to get in invisible mode by game time
~A couple things up for debate, mass lynchings and retractable votes. Personally, I'd go with no mass lynchings and retractable votes but I'll allow for majority rule.

[Shelob]

For myself, I prefer no mass-lynchings and non-retractable votes...but like you if people prefer elsewise I'll go with that...

For my friend, Abercrombie's female...as for "anchoress" though, she has to verify this, but I'm guessing she went to dictionary.com (like I just did) and looked for cool words eventually getting that
Anchoress=A woman who has retired into seclusion for religious reasons.
it's the sort of thing she'd do, and it would mean her avatar kinda matched...

[The Saucepan Man]

I vote for mass lynchings.

But I know that they are not to everyone's taste. If we are not to have mass lynchings, then we need to know what will happen in the event that two or more Villagers are tied on votes at the end of the Day. I always liked the idea that the first one voted for then gets lynched, as it adds an extra tactical element to voting.

Oh, and I greatly favour non-retractable votes.

[wilwarin538]

Definetely non-retractable votes. I think it gives more fun to the game.

I don't mind mass lynchings when I'm playing. I just didn't want to write them or have my game end really soon.

[AbercrombieOfRohan]

Sorry Holby, guess you didn't catch my edit... I'm female, as Shelob said.

As for an "anchoress" it is a female who goes into seclusion for religious reasons. And, no Shelob, I didn't just poke around on Dictionary.com, I went to Google...

[Holbytlass]

(SHELOB)Anchoress=A woman who has retired into seclusion for religious reasons.
it's the sort of thing she'd do, and it would mean her avatar kinda matched...

Duly noted and right gender put in.....LOL! I thought Abercrombie's avatar was lead singer to Led Zeppelin! (It's too early, I can't remember his name).

(SpM)I always liked the idea that the first one voted for then gets lynched,(in a tie)

I like that idea, if non-mass lynchings is chosen than that's what will happen in a tie.

[Lhunardawen]

Oh dear, I missed it.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

The sheer joy of discovering that Saucepan Man will be playing in the same game as I (has it really taken this long?) has been slightly dampened by Lhuna's late arrival. Ah, what frenzy can Werewolf recruitment truly entail!

I'll be the down-on-his-luck seller of trinkets, gems, snake-oil and other such bits and pieces. You can call me the Purveyor of Mystical Oddments.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

How depressing... and I was going to play in this one too. Somebody poke me when the next recruitment comes along.

[Lhunardawen]

My fault, actually, for not having been in the Downs for too long. I didn't even know that X was already over!

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

I PM'd Holby about players playing in several games in a row. I think maybe we can work out something a little fairer so that everyone gets a chance to play.

Does that seem reasonable?

[Lhunardawen]

Now that I think of it, wouldn't that be unfair to the others? After all, they signed up first...

[arcticstorm]

occupation: historian who has been specializing in the history of this area.

I favor non-retractable votes, and mass liynchings are ok with me one way or the other

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Very true. Either way, it's slightly unfair on someone.

I think there should probably be a limit on how many successive games individuals can play, though.

Or maybe we could have three games.

Or maybe I could just stop talking.

[Lhunardawen]

Originally Posted by dear Eomer

I think there should probably be a limit on how many successive games individuals can play, though.

There goes a new topic of debate...

[mormegil]

For what it matters I'm slightly in favor of having mass lynching but more in favor of having non-retractable votes.

As a personal rule I try to limit myself to two games in a row then sitting out at least one. The wife appreciates me sitting out on occasion too

[The Only Real Estel]

Oh dear, I missed it.

How depressing... and I was going to play in this one too.

Darn. I'm with you two. I finally found a WW game where I can play (probably the last date that will work), and it was a major plus that it was a 'back-to-basics' game, but registration goes awfully fast. That & my parent (s) wouldn't let me get on yesterday to sign up...

Oh well, I guess I'll read up a bit on Glirdan's game that SpM mentioned...

[Gil-Galad]

Holby, i'm not a former bum, i just couldn't think of anything, so can you please take that out

[AbercrombieOfRohan]

I'm in favour of mass lynchings and non-retractable votes.

[The Saucepan Man]

Well I really think that two games should be enough to accomodate everyone.

There's lots of room still available in Glirdan's game. Perhaps we should get away from this idea of calling it Werewolf Junior, as I suspect that it may be putting people off signing up.

It seems to me that either people who have played a few games in a row should volunteer to transfer to Glirdan's game (Werewolf 2.1? ) or those who couldn't sign up for Holby's should sign up for it.

I'm against setting any hard and fast rules, though.

[Holbytlass]

I'm sorry, I would love to accomodate everyone but since I'm keeping this a simple game and there are now two games to play I'm going to stick with 'first come, first serve'. I think SpM is right, it should be renamed.

As it stands:

Mass lynching: 5 yeas, 2 nea

nonretractable votes: 7 yeas, 0 neas

with 8 people to hear from.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Maybe we should ignore all pretensions to 'higher' and 'lower', 'junior' and 'senior', and just ask Glirdan to call his game Werewolf XII. It looks like it'll be starting a fair bit later at least.

I am against mass lynchings and for non-retractable votes.

[The Saucepan Man]

-- Mass lynchings

++ First person voted for is lynched in the event of a tied vote

I'm still in favour of non-retractable votes in the game.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Don't confuse the moderator.

To clarify: That means if Eomer and Saucepan both have 6 votes, then the first of those two to reach 6 votes would be lynched, as opposed to the one who gained the very first vote out of all 12. Hmm?

[The Saucepan Man]

Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

To clarify: That means if Eomer and Saucepan both have 6 votes, then the first of those two to reach 6 votes would be lynched, as opposed to the one who gained the very first vote out of all 12. Hmm?

Actually, I was thinking it would be the first one voted for that Day since it involves a greater tactical element. But it could be either, just as long as we're sure which it is before the game starts.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

It's your call Holby. I think both are far preferable to mass lynchings.

I'd also make a plea to all Werewolf players; basically what (I think it was) Encaitare said during her game. Can we keep all talk of RL (that stands for Real Life) to a minimum? If we just remember that we sometimes can't make it onto the internet as much as we'd like, we won't need all these "I was working late so I couldn't post"-type notices in the post.

And another thing: Make no apologies for bloodlust! Unless it's in-character. What can I say? Bloodlust is fun and good. Thanks!

[Lalaith]

The problem is, Eomer, people may post their absences on the Werewolf admin thread but then players don't read that thread and you get a whole bunch of "where the hell is xxxx? This absence is very suspicious" type comments.

So when the absentee does get back online, and has a genuine excuse, it's only natural that s/he should point this out. I don't really mind RL stuff in moderation.
The tone they take often helps get a "handle" on the person involved, I think, particularly if I haven't encountered them much before on the Downs.

Sorry, I'm not even playing in this game, but I'm just making remarks in general.

[Formendacil]

I am strongly in favour of No Mass Lynching- and SPM's suggestion concerning tiebreakers sounds good to me (either way).

I favour Retractable Votes, but I'm willing to give those up in favour of No Mass Lynchings.

My $0.016 USD

[The Saucepan Man]

I'm with Eomer on this one.

My concern is that, while honesty is an obligation on the admin thread, "economy with the truth" is wholly permissible and, indeed, encouraged (for some roles, at least), on the game thread. I am against any suggestion that RL issues may be being used as excuses to cover Wolfish (or other) activity in the game. Even if they are not, the fact that something is posted on the game thread raises a reasonable suspicion in other players' minds.

All of those playing should keep an eye on this thread while the game is running. And I have nothing against a short, polite direction on the game thread to other players to look here in appropriate circumstances. Just as long as the excuse itself is stated on this thread, where there is a strict "no lying" rule.

[Holbytlass]

As it now stands:
Mass lynching: 4 yeas, 6 neas

nonretractable votes: 9 yeas, 1 neas

with 5 people to hear from=PerkyEnt, Gil-galad, Alcarillo, Azaelia, Cailin (they are all probably in school)

~If no mass lynchings wins out, then in the event of a first place tie the person who received the first vote dies.

People, please, use your imagintions! If a day happens were one had too much homework or your spouse was hogging the computer then make a statement in your post how your 'village' job kept you busy (ex: the pigeons escaped their cages and it took awhile to round them up, BTW-I'm the carrier pigeon girl) if it's something serious like an unexpected trip to granny's house or the kid has the flu then post it here in the admin thread.

[Márcolië Lamen]

I prefer no mass lynchings and non-retractable votes. Having either the first to reach the tied votes or the first to be voted both work in my opinion as long as we know which it'd be if it was one.

[arcticstorm]

HOlby, I think that you probably did not see my job earlier, and that is probably good, since I would prefer to change what I had earlier as my job to that of a preacher.

[Boromir88]

I'm not a fan of mass lynchings.

Though there were several times I wish I could retract my vote last game, I still am in favor of non-retractable votes.

[Cailín]

Now I feel a little guilty about taking the last spot. Sorry Fea, Lhuna... But Saucepan Man was right: junior kind of put the people off who feel they are slightly better than junior. I do like the junior idea, but maybe for next time, it's better to have two regular, equal games. Have everyone sign up and then the mods set up the two villages? It's just a suggestion - might be a bit complicated though.

Anyway, this will probably be the last game I'll be able to participate in for a while.

I favor/favour (whatever) non-retractable votes and I seem to be about the only one who does like the mass-lynching concept (though not more than 2 or 3 at a time).

But majority rules. And Holby's the boss. (so, I guess majority rules as long as majority says the same thing Holby does?)

[Anguirel]

Can I put my name down on the mod waiting list? Far from urgently, but I'd love to have a go some time in the future...

[Holbytlass]

Mass lynching: 5 yeas, 6 neas

nonretractable votes: 10 yeas, 1 neas

with 4 people to hear from=PerkyEnt, Gil-galad, Alcarillo, Azaelia, (they are all probably in school)

~If no mass lynchings wins out, then in the event of a first place tie the person who received the first vote dies.

I think it's safe to say that there will be nonretractable votes. But this is interesting, which will happen mass or non-mass lynching.

~All edits have been made to the player list up to this point