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Márcolië Lamen · 10-06-2005, 09:11 AM

Why would a fake hunter declare himself when the hunter is out there or when the hunter just declared himself. Either way they know they're going to die. Its the same logic.

I'm thinking we may want to think about wilwarin and see if any more freudian slips or other hints come out from anyone.

I wouldn't say there's any reason to go against artic for feeling differently than us. Its best to have an innocent devil's advicate in case we're wrong.

**The Saucepan Man** · 10-06-2005, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcolie

Why would a fake hunter declare himself when the hunter is out there or when the hunter just declared himself. Either way they know they're going to die. Its the same logic.

Precisely. The difference, however, being that, prior to both revelations, I had directly accused mormegil of being a Wolf and Marcolie had indicated strong suspicions, whereas Abercrombie had not come under much suspicion at all. Surely the one under the greater pressure is the one more likely to resort to such a desperate ploy.

To coin a phrase used by our dearly departed Seer, are you sure you want to align yourself with a suicidal Wolf, Arctic?

I'd like to hear more from Abercrombie on this. And I'd also like to hear something - anything - from Azaelia and Alcarillo.

**The Saucepan Man** · 10-06-2005, 10:05 AM

... a thought just occurred to me.

A question for the Holberator.

Does the Hunter's Night-time target hold for the next Day, or does the Hunter get to make a fresh choice (ie one different from the previous Night) if s/he is lynched by the Village during the Day?

mormegil · 10-06-2005, 10:45 AM

So SpM your mind is obviously closed to the possibility of my innocence. I wrote that post first thing when I woke up and was needing to run because I was running late. I feel so frustrated now, I came out hoping to help the village and all I get for my efforts are jeers and nitpicking. So SpM I submit my request again to you--just do an analysis of what it would mean if I am innocent. I want to give you a head start.

I find it telling that two people are willing to vote for me so soon, hoping to start a bandwagon before we even here again from AoR.

Bah! I give up on trying to tell you intransigent ingnoramuses that I am innocent and will begin to focus my attention on finding actual wolves. Because even though you have turned your back on the ranger and now the hunter I will not turn my back on you.

My list of wolves are (in order this time)
1. Abercrombie of Rohan
2. Wilwarin
3. Boromir88

Márcolië Lamen has dropped from my suspect list because of her intelligent thought and being innocent I agree with her strategy. I'm glad I didn't die tonight or you would have died with me

Articstorm has become much lower on my list too. Not cleared 100% though

SaucepanMan while extremely frustrating and bull-headed is not likely guilty, though like Articstorm not 100% cleared.

Azaelia in looking back over Cailin I believe she may have dreamt of her and I believe her to be innocent.

Formendacil I'm still unsure about.

Alcarillo about the same as formendacil, I just can't get a great read on him and was hoping to hear something from him yesterday in regards to my vote but obviously we didn't.

so there is my list take it or leave it.

Holbytlass · 10-06-2005, 10:46 AM

from the Holberator:

I've always thought that the hunter could decide who to take down with them at time of death, giving the mod a name at night is a courtesy in case the wolves happen to choose them, and during the day if it looks like the hunter is going to be lynched to P.M. a name. Therefore, the name does not have to be the same as the night before.

**The Saucepan Man** · 10-06-2005, 10:55 AM

Behold the Holberator! Praise her with mighty praise! (Thanks)

Mormegil, I would be interested to hear from you a rational explanation of why on earth a Wolf-Abercrombie would claim to be the Hunter following your revelation.

mormegil · 10-06-2005, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by The Saucepan Man

Mormegil, I would be interested to hear from you a rational explanation of why on earth a Wolf-Abercrombie would claim to be the Hunter following your revelation.

To be honest I do not know other than two possible explinations and that is why I was as dumbfounded as the rest about it.

1. Inexperience, which she has
2. To cause some confusion

oh and a 3rd
3. A quick rash decision that she didn't think about too much and now regrets.

I agree with Formendacil that Wilwa should go and if the wolves kill me tonight I will bring down AoR but I doubt they will kill me now, they will leave that for the innocents.

**The Saucepan Man** · 10-06-2005, 11:01 AM

As I said, I will wait to hear more from Abercrombie.

Formendacil · 10-06-2005, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by mormegil

I agree with Formendacil that Wilwa should go and if the wolves kill me tonight I will bring down AoR but I doubt they will kill me now, they will leave that for the innocents.

Well, if you ARE the Hunter, you would be a logical choice to take down... and by killing AoR with you, we would be down a Wolf and down a Hunter.

On the other hand, if you are a Wolf, and you survive, the logical choice tonight to take down would be AoR- whom you know is a hunter, and who would likely take you down with her.

Either way, the village wakes up tomorrow morning and is down one Hunter and one Wolf. Works for me...

Of course, having said that, the Wolves- whoever they are, will likely push today for Morm or AoR's death, killing off the real one, claiming the other one is still the Hunter, and go off to kill someone else...

I still think it best to vote off Wilwa.

Formendacil · 10-06-2005, 10:52 AM

Time slips away... fewer hours are left until our next gory evening than from this morning...

I am still of the opinion that Morm is the wolf and Abercrombie is the real Hunter- but I still think we should lynch Wilwarin- getting rid of the most obvious wolf, and allowing the wolves to clear up for us just who was/is the Hunter.

And I hope that others will vote the same way...

10-06-2005, 09:11 AM	#1
Márcolië Lamen Wight Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Nwy, land of the llamas Posts: 109	Why would a fake hunter declare himself when the hunter is out there or when the hunter just declared himself. Either way they know they're going to die. Its the same logic. I'm thinking we may want to think about wilwarin and see if any more freudian slips or other hints come out from anyone. I wouldn't say there's any reason to go against artic for feeling differently than us. Its best to have an innocent devil's advicate in case we're wrong. __________________ Here there be turtle-dragons

10-06-2005, 10:05 AM	#3
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Sorry for the double post, but ... ... a thought just occurred to me. A question for the Holberator. Does the Hunter's Night-time target hold for the next Day, or does the Hunter get to make a fresh choice (ie one different from the previous Night) if s/he is lynched by the Village during the Day? __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

10-06-2005, 10:45 AM	#4
mormegil Maundering Mage Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,651	So SpM your mind is obviously closed to the possibility of my innocence. I wrote that post first thing when I woke up and was needing to run because I was running late. I feel so frustrated now, I came out hoping to help the village and all I get for my efforts are jeers and nitpicking. So SpM I submit my request again to you--just do an analysis of what it would mean if I am innocent. I want to give you a head start. I find it telling that two people are willing to vote for me so soon, hoping to start a bandwagon before we even here again from AoR. Bah! I give up on trying to tell you intransigent ingnoramuses that I am innocent and will begin to focus my attention on finding actual wolves. Because even though you have turned your back on the ranger and now the hunter I will not turn my back on you. My list of wolves are (in order this time) 1. Abercrombie of Rohan 2. Wilwarin 3. Boromir88 Márcolië Lamen has dropped from my suspect list because of her intelligent thought and being innocent I agree with her strategy. I'm glad I didn't die tonight or you would have died with me Articstorm has become much lower on my list too. Not cleared 100% though SaucepanMan while extremely frustrating and bull-headed is not likely guilty, though like Articstorm not 100% cleared. Azaelia in looking back over Cailin I believe she may have dreamt of her and I believe her to be innocent. Formendacil I'm still unsure about. Alcarillo about the same as formendacil, I just can't get a great read on him and was hoping to hear something from him yesterday in regards to my vote but obviously we didn't. so there is my list take it or leave it. __________________ “I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo. "So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.” Last edited by mormegil; 10-06-2005 at 01:25 PM.

10-06-2005, 10:46 AM	#5
Holbytlass Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Party Tree Posts: 1,042	from the Holberator: I've always thought that the hunter could decide who to take down with them at time of death, giving the mod a name at night is a courtesy in case the wolves happen to choose them, and during the day if it looks like the hunter is going to be lynched to P.M. a name. Therefore, the name does not have to be the same as the night before. __________________ Holby is an actual flesh-and-blood person, right? Not, say a sock-puppet of Nilp’s, by any chance? ~Nerwen, WWCIII

10-06-2005, 10:55 AM	#6
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Behold the Holberator! Praise her with mighty praise! (Thanks) Mormegil, I would be interested to hear from you a rational explanation of why on earth a Wolf-Abercrombie would claim to be the Hunter following your revelation. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

10-06-2005, 11:01 AM	#8
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	As I said, I will wait to hear more from Abercrombie. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

10-06-2005, 10:52 AM	#10
Formendacil Dead Serious Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Perched on Thangorodrim's towers. Posts: 3,328	Time slips away... fewer hours are left until our next gory evening than from this morning... I am still of the opinion that Morm is the wolf and Abercrombie is the real Hunter- but I still think we should lynch Wilwarin- getting rid of the most obvious wolf, and allowing the wolves to clear up for us just who was/is the Hunter. And I hope that others will vote the same way... __________________ I prefer history, true or feigned.