If they still had Gandalf... - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Gandalf_the _white · 10-16-2005, 04:35 AM

thnx that helps a bit

Glirdan · 10-16-2005, 08:12 AM

Yes it is off topic here but please, do join this disscussion. Nobody has posted here for a long time and it makes me sad because this topic is one that interests me greatly. There are so many things that have happened that you could change which would greatly change the outcome of the War of the Rings. Please, join in. I'd love to hear your thoughts on all this.

Gandalf_the _white · 10-16-2005, 08:29 AM

np I think that if Gandalf had survived Moria and the nazgul on the fell beast had still turned up he may have been able to completly destroy it not just its steed.

Glirdan · 10-16-2005, 08:57 AM

Hmmmm. That is possible because he's only fighting one Nazgul and not five like he did at Weathertop. The only thing (that has been disscussed many times before) is how would Gandalf turn into Gandalf the White. Perhaps at Amon Hen, he could have fallen trying to protect Boromir and then maybe Boromir would have survived. Or maybe he could have fallen off of Rauros somehow and then Boromir would have died. That is a very contraversial topic. I say that perhaps after fleeing Moria, the Balrog could perhaps have chased Gandalf and then they fought and both died there while the Fellowship fled to Lothlorien. There are endless possibilities with this question.

Gandalf_the _white · 10-16-2005, 09:04 AM

Or gandalf could have realised the balrog was chasing them and sent the others away in groups and got the balrog to go after him.
That would have been a big battle and he could have died and become gandalf the white here
BTW are we the only ones on this thread or something? lol

Glirdan · 10-16-2005, 10:26 AM

Well kind of yes. I think it's because everyone forgot about this thread...

Very good theory by the way. Maybe Gandalf and the Balrog could have climbed the Caradhras and fought there. The Balrog could have fallen again and Gandalf would have collpased and died like he originally did, on top of a mountain. Another theory I've had that's been put down was what if Gandalf never got captured by Saruman? What if he didn't go see Saruman when Radagast instructed him to?

BTW Gandalf, please speak in full scentences. Using abreviation is frowned upon here. As you hopefully noticed, the only abreviations we use are "BTW" and "LOL". Just a little friendly advice.

Gandalf_the _white · 10-17-2005, 04:22 AM

Sorry about that lol.
Well if gandalf hadn't gone to Sauraman ( its seems so obvious now Sauron/Sauraman!) then it probally means he would have already known that sauraman was a traitor. I think he already guessed that he had turned traitor but he needed some proof.

10-16-2005, 08:12 AM	#2
Glirdan Energetic Essence Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Where Lark Nor Eagle Ever Flew Posts: 3,285	Yes it is off topic here but please, do join this disscussion. Nobody has posted here for a long time and it makes me sad because this topic is one that interests me greatly. There are so many things that have happened that you could change which would greatly change the outcome of the War of the Rings. Please, join in. I'd love to hear your thoughts on all this. __________________ *I'm going to buy you a kitty, I'm going to let you fall in love with the kitty, and one cold, winter night, I'm going to steal into your house and punch you in the face!* Fenris Wolf

10-16-2005, 08:57 AM	#4
Glirdan Energetic Essence Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Where Lark Nor Eagle Ever Flew Posts: 3,285	Hmmmm. That is possible because he's only fighting one Nazgul and not five like he did at Weathertop. The only thing (that has been disscussed many times before) is how would Gandalf turn into Gandalf the White. Perhaps at Amon Hen, he could have fallen trying to protect Boromir and then maybe Boromir would have survived. Or maybe he could have fallen off of Rauros somehow and then Boromir would have died. That is a very contraversial topic. I say that perhaps after fleeing Moria, the Balrog could perhaps have chased Gandalf and then they fought and both died there while the Fellowship fled to Lothlorien. There are endless possibilities with this question. __________________ *I'm going to buy you a kitty, I'm going to let you fall in love with the kitty, and one cold, winter night, I'm going to steal into your house and punch you in the face!* Fenris Wolf

10-16-2005, 10:26 AM	#6
Glirdan Energetic Essence Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Where Lark Nor Eagle Ever Flew Posts: 3,285	Well kind of yes. I think it's because everyone forgot about this thread... Very good theory by the way. Maybe Gandalf and the Balrog could have climbed the Caradhras and fought there. The Balrog could have fallen again and Gandalf would have collpased and died like he originally did, on top of a mountain. Another theory I've had that's been put down was what if Gandalf never got captured by Saruman? What if he didn't go see Saruman when Radagast instructed him to? BTW Gandalf, please speak in full scentences. Using abreviation is frowned upon here. As you hopefully noticed, the only abreviations we use are "BTW" and "LOL". Just a little friendly advice. __________________ *I'm going to buy you a kitty, I'm going to let you fall in love with the kitty, and one cold, winter night, I'm going to steal into your house and punch you in the face!* Fenris Wolf

10-16-2005, 04:35 AM	#1
Gandalf_the _white Wight Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: In crazy captions waving an angry fist at the outside world Posts: 155	thnx that helps a bit

10-16-2005, 08:29 AM	#3
Gandalf_the _white Wight Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: In crazy captions waving an angry fist at the outside world Posts: 155	np I think that if Gandalf had survived Moria and the nazgul on the fell beast had still turned up he may have been able to completly destroy it not just its steed.

10-16-2005, 09:04 AM	#5
Gandalf_the _white Wight Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: In crazy captions waving an angry fist at the outside world Posts: 155	Or gandalf could have realised the balrog was chasing them and sent the others away in groups and got the balrog to go after him. That would have been a big battle and he could have died and become gandalf the white here BTW are we the only ones on this thread or something? lol

10-17-2005, 04:22 AM	#7
Gandalf_the _white Wight Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: In crazy captions waving an angry fist at the outside world Posts: 155	Sorry about that lol. Well if gandalf hadn't gone to Sauraman ( its seems so obvious now Sauron/Sauraman!) then it probally means he would have already known that sauraman was a traitor. I think he already guessed that he had turned traitor but he needed some proof.