WWJ II: Welcome to Lower Tadfield. The Apocalypse has Now Begun.

[Kitanna]

Rune, I'm just glad you gave a reason behind why. I know when I finally vote I will not have very sound reasons today either.

Anywho, I'd like to say this about DEATH's IMing comment. It is possible DEATH was talking to friends outside of the game and outside the Downs on AOL instant messager or some other messager service. I do not think we should hold that against DEATH.

[Márcolië Lamen]

Originally Posted by Kitanna

Anywho, I'd like to say this about DEATH's IMing comment. It is possible DEATH was talking to friends outside of the game and outside the Downs on AOL instant messager or some other messager service. I do not think we should hold that against DEATH.

Well to be completely truthful despite its lack of relavance, I will not deny the fact that who I was talking to is a member of the Downs, and is actually a werewolf player. But I was not talking about the game, seeing as DEATH can talk to the dead, but not get information from the mods on the identity of the wolves.

Originally Posted by holby

I mean, at the time of posting, my list is rather random and pointlessly based, just like "what everyone is doing toDAY". But I added about the seer and one person meaning last night's dream (I was being Captain Obvious). As for you, Wilwarin, you are on the suspect list toDAY for old time's sake but of course, that could change tomorrow. Meaning I put you on the suspect list (tomorrow) because I think you are a wolf.

This I really don't understand that. Could DEATH please get a rewording?


Waybe and the Ka both really haven't posted. Well Wayne had his one liner saying it was sad they died (which is it).
Please talk you guys?

And I have to echo Kitanna on saying thanks for giving reasons for suspisions Rune its early on but it always is more helpful to have more information to sift through.

[Kitanna]

Originally Posted by Márcolië Lamen

Well to be completely truthful despite its lack of relavance, I will not deny the fact that who I was talking to is a member of the Downs, and is actually a werewolf player. But I was not talking about the game, seeing as DEATH can talk to the dead, but not get information from the mods on the identity of the wolves.

Well, glad you're honest.

So time is drawing on and I still have no clue who to vote for. I suspect a number of people above the rest, but I'm not entirely sure which one of them to vote for.

Glirdan and Tar both hold places on my list.

Glirdan~ Because of his strange posts regarding Eonwe. Now there's a chance he is a very bold seer, but his hints toward it are very bold and very dangerous. He could be a wolf leading off his scent and trying to throw it elsewhere. (piggybacking on an innocent...) Or he really could have a strong gut feeling.

tar-ancalime~ Not so much for her flip-flopping, but because she has said a few things that caught my attention and my suspicions. But I'm going to let flip-flopping and echoing of ideas slide today because she is new and it is DAY one. I am going back one more time to reread her posts.

[Sleepy Ranger]

Since I must leave now I will vote.

++Glirdan

For reasons stated above by others and because I really don't have a main suspect. Hopefully by the next day we'll have a more certain path to head in.

[sotty]

Originally Posted by ”kitanna”

Glirdan~ Because of his strange posts regarding Eonwe. Now there's a chance he is a very bold seer, but his hints toward it are very bold and very dangerous. He could be a wolf leading off his scent and trying to throw it elsewhere. (piggybacking on an innocent...) Or he really could have a strong gut feeling.

This is true Glirdan could just be ruffling some feathers and going with the odds just to see peoples reactions to his comments. He could easily be a wolf jumping on an innocent or they could even both be crafty wolves which would be almost as bold of a plan than if Glirdan turned out to be the seer! There is also the more boring option that he could be an innocent villager, but that would be no fun right? With regrades to Glirdan, I'm happy to play a wait and see game, but if I'm around to see what happens is a different matter all together.

Hiriel – There is something about his posts that I can't quite put my finger on but to quote Glirdan it's just a gut feeling, and not even a strong one to boot.

Tar-ancalime- Flip flopping could be but down to first day nerves but more than that, these posts worry me-

Originally Posted by ”Tar-ancalime

we must never forget that peace may come at the expense of the lives of some of our innocent villagers .

While this is true, the death of any innocents would be nothing I would want to see.

Originally Posted by ”Tar-ancalime

But I also know that whomever I accuse is sure to be guilty, so no worries there

I would love to know how you could be so sure about that.

With so little to go on in DAY 1 I will have to vote with the most evidence I have

++Tar-ancalime

After a re-read Tar-ancalime just piped DEATH for my vote as there is a little more to go on. DEATH is someone I plan to watch.

[Kitanna]

Ok, I had time to eat dinner and shower and that gave me time to think. I decided to do as Wilwa did and take my five main suspects and throw their names in a hat and pull out one. (suspects in case you're wondering or even care: DEATH, Sleepy Ranger, Glirdan, Tar, and Gurthang) I closed my eyes, drew out a name and came up with

++Sleepy Ranger

Now...why I suspected SR.

As for blaming somebody.....blame?....accuse would be a better word, no? Anyway as long as we don't throw it around randomly and think it over logically I daresay we'll be heading in the right direction. At the moment I don't really find anybody suspicious, I mean its just the first day so nothings clear.

Granted we need to start somewhere but accusations off occupations are rather baseless since the occupation has no meaning. I'm going to do what I did in the last game and just observe for the first day before actually devoting myself in the next when we'll have some harder evidence.

Now my whole purpose of posting my list at the beginning was to see how people responded to a random accusation. I felt uneasy each time SR brought up thinking logically and not pointing the blame due to randomness. If we all sat around looking at opening posts and trying to find logic in them we'd be doomed. He says "We need to start somewhere..." but if we do not put some form of accusation out there (no matter how random) then we can't really start.

perhaps people are just trying to back up a random post with evidence that isn't there. Anyway the first day does tend to be quite random and hopefully by the next we won't be falling to things such as occupations and actually going off something solid.

I find this to contradict itself. He says people are giving random posts for evidence that isn't there, but right away he says things today are going to be quite random. So then, why is there just a problem for random suspicions and evidence if that seems to be what day one is made of?

And finally SR voted for Glirdan, for "reasons stated by other people", well which reasons? Which people? Perhaps SR is trying to start a bandwagong, seeing as there is already one vote for Glirdan.

[Eonwe]

um i happen to agree with sr. what good is stabbing in the dark the whole game through. logic. tell me why. what is behind it all? that is what we need to see, cold hard logic. we won't get anywere without it. but there is a great derth of that Day one. so........

++willwa there is no logic and this is a completly random vote. i didn't even do the names in a hat trick...

[Gurthang]

Well, I have to leave and won't be back toDay. So I will go with:

++Márcolië Lamen

Because she is the only one who I think is acting strange and who has not recieved a vote yet. See you all tomorrow.... hopefully.

[Bergil]

++Marcolie "DEATH" Laman

I don't suspect her in the least' but I must vote for someone.

[Kitanna]

Originally Posted by Eonwe

um i happen to agree with sr. what good is stabbing in the dark the whole game through. logic. tell me why. what is behind it all? that is what we need to see, cold hard logic. we won't get anywere without it. but there is a great derth of that Day one.

I am not talking about taking random stabs in the dark every day. I am talking about the fact on day one if someone does not get the ball rolling then we will start each day as clueless as we were the day before.

[Hiriel]

Herm. Back again. Things have progressed a little. It seems the main suspects right now are Tar and Glirdan, with Rune, Gurthang, Sleepy, Marcolie, and Wilwa's names also being thrown around. Herm.

Glirdan's certainty disturbs me. Could be he's gauging people's reactions to his vouchsafing of Eonwe, he is a very foolish Seer. As suspicious as I am of his certainty on this first and very uncertain day, I don't think he's a wolf. Calling attention to himself and another player (Dunno why Eonwe. I've seen nothing in his posts to damn or clear him) like this seems a very bald, foolish tactic for a wolf, who's main objective is to stay hidden so he can kill us all. It smacks more of a cobbler to me. As for his "seeing" hints, I doubt he's a seer, either. No sane seer could afford to be this blatant, even as a bluff. The wolves might buy it and kill him and then were would we all be? I'm very interested as to what happens to Glirdan tonight and tomorrow, and he's still very suspect, but he'll not get my vote.

Tar: I'm still a little suspicious of, because of his flip flopage. He's not posted in a while, either. Dunno, but I doubt I'll vote for him. I'd rather keep an eye on him for a while first.

Wilwa and Sleepy...My gut says they're innocent. I've seen nothing so far that would speak otherwise. I guess time will tell if my feelings are mistaken.

Rune: I like his sound reasoning. He made a very good point about Marcolie, which was something I felt but couldn't quite articulate. Still, I have gut feeling against him. I dunno. Maybe it was because I trusted him completely in WWJ I, and now this is a whole new ballgame. I don't know. He'll not get my vote, either, because my reasons aren't good ones.

Gurthang : Also has made some valid points. Not that wolves are beyond doing so. He's mostly echoed what other people have said, and expanded on that a little bit. Not a suspect of mine. Yet.

Marcolie: Some of what he said has struck me as odd. He didn't quite take on my joke about Who's Us, but got a little (only a little) defensive. The IM comment, I think, is benign. If he had said PM, I might think differently. Yet he's sill suspect. I agree with Rune about him being very present yet expanding on little. He might get my vote toDAY, less I see something in the next couple hours that screams wolf to me. It's mostly utter randomness, with a bit of unease thrown into the mix.

The only other suspect I'd add to the list is Holby, for pretty much the same reasons as Marcolie. Some things just strike me as odd, and I've got a bad feeling about this. (perhaps I should've been connoisseur of Star Wars quotes )

I mean, at the time of posting, my list is rather random and pointlessly based, just like "what everyone is doing toDAY". But I added about the seer and one person meaning last night's dream (I was being Captain Obvious). As for you, Wilwarin, you are on the suspect list toDAY for old time's sake but of course, that could change tomorrow. Meaning I put you on the suspect list (tomorrow) because I think you are a wolf.

Yeah, this passage confuses me. Which brings it to my attention, which makes me suspicious. If you could clarify, Holby, especially the sentence about the seer and the one person meaning last night's dream bit. That'd help me greatly.

Oh also: some people have brought up my usage of blame. The honest answer for why I wrote that word is that it's shorter and easier to spell than accuse. The two are basic synonyms, and I wasn't thinking about the negative connotations the former might have as opposed to the latter. I meant nothing sinister or to encourage random mob lynches by it. Sorry.

That's all for now. I'll be back with anything semi-relevant and my vote in an hour or so.