Why Legolas? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

SunniGadi · 10-19-2005, 05:46 PM

Everyone in the fellowship was corrupted, because they were mortals and they had their mortal needs and wants. I can only think of one thing to put Legolas in that scene; to give Orlando more air time. He doesn't have a real big air time/speaking part in Fellowship, and so maybe they just tried to get him in a bit more, to show that he was "a part of the group" and not completely detached, because he wasn't. He was just a big observer in Fellowship and then acted upon his observations in Two Towers.

I was really sad they didn't put the falling of the Shire in the movies and the glory Merry and Pippin got for saving everyone. Or that Pippin and Merry grew when they were with Treebeard....or Tom Bombadil...

Lush · 10-22-2005, 04:12 PM

Why Legolas? Because he looks good while pouting.

Seriously, remember that a bit later on in the movie, when Boromir is dying, there is a wonderful close-up of Legolas looking distressed. I think these moments in the movie are a means of bringing us closer to Legolas' somewhat neglected character. I think they are a nice touch on Peter Jackson's part.

Kath · 10-22-2005, 04:25 PM

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Legolas' somewhat neglected character

The character is neglected because the actor doesn't act! He doesn't stand there looking sad and stricken by grief at Boromir's death, he looks like he's trying to remember whether he turned his hair straighteners off!

As to why he was in the mirror, yes he probably was there just to put him in the film more. Or they may have filmed all the members of the Fellowship, but even in the EE didn't have time to put them in, or they just plain forgot. Or maybe it was to do with the inherent sadness of the Elves.

Lush · 10-22-2005, 07:43 PM

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The character is neglected because the actor doesn't act! He doesn't stand there looking sad and stricken by grief at Boromir's death, he looks like he's trying to remember whether he turned his hair straighteners off!

I disagree. He doesn't have a whole lot of range, but then again, I don't think the screenplay gives him enough room. I think he does well with the material provided for him, especially since he's often the one getting stuck with the lamest lines. Overall, I think he does a nice job of portraying an Elf.

Parmawen · 11-06-2005, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Lush

I disagree. He doesn't have a whole lot of range, but then again, I don't think the screenplay gives him enough room. I think he does well with the material provided for him, especially since he's often the one getting stuck with the lamest lines. Overall, I think he does a nice job of portraying an Elf.

That's true. All of Legolas' expressions are "minorly concerned" or "very concerned" with varying degrees of "extremely concerned", but they don't really allow room for much else, especially since he's stuck with a lot of boring exposition. and how are you supposed to make that interesting? I love it though, because in the movie he sounds like a walking dictionary.

("There is a fell voice on the air," "This is Aragorn son of Arathorn," etc.)

I've also wondered about that scene as well, and I think it was just the mood and meaning behind it. At the time when the scene occurs (not the mirror one, but the one with Legolas and Aragorn talking) Frodo is feeling doubt and confusion, and it's emphasized by the fact that his companions are talking ABOUT him, not TO him, and the shadowy doubt that they could be against him. While we know that Legolas is least likely to take the ring, perhaps the ring made Frodo suspicious of even him, thus putting Legolas in the mirror? I always thought Legolas looked very angry in that scene, but maybe I'm wrong. Also, is the mirror affected at all by who's looking in it? Because, if so, then it makes sense that Frodo's suspicion could take over and portray Legolas as Frodo's mind sees him (albeit tainted by the ring). If not, then I have absolutely no clue why they have that scene with Legolas.

Bêthberry · 10-22-2005, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Lush

I think they are a nice touch on Peter Jackson's part.

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Originally Posted by Lush

Overall, I think he does a nice job of portraying an Elf.

Hmmm. Really? nice

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Originally Posted by dictionary.com

Pleasing and agreeable in nature: had a nice time.
Having a pleasant or attractive appearance: a nice dress; a nice face.
Exhibiting courtesy and politeness: a nice gesture.
Of good character and reputation; respectable.
Overdelicate or fastidious; fussy.
Showing or requiring great precision or sensitive discernment; subtle: a nice distinction; a nice sense of style.
Done with delicacy and skill: a nice bit of craft.
Used as an intensive with and: nice and warm.
Obsolete.
Wanton; profligate: “For when mine hours/Were nice and lucky, men did ransom lives/Of me for jests” (Shakespeare).
Affectedly modest; coy: “Ere... /The nice Morn on th' Indian steep,/From her cabin'd loop-hole peep” (John Milton).

These definitions leave out mincing but they do provide some nice opportunties for consideration.

Lush · 10-22-2005, 10:03 PM

Sadly, the latest definition of nice, in which "nice" is equated with "sweet!" (as it was used in "Dude, Where's My Car?" and "Napoleon Dynamite") and pronounced as "niiice" is not included on the online dictionary. Shame.

ninlaith · 11-02-2005, 10:30 PM

I think that scene was added for the enhancement of the rings power. Like one of our fellow downers said previously in this thread "one by one it will destroy them all". I think that meant it will destroy them all as a fellowship and as a race. Each race "good", as opposed to evil, race was represented in the fellowship, Elf, man, dwarf, and hobbit. In Galadriel mirror each race and each friend was revealed to him as a prospect of whom may be taken by the ring. And by the way we actors do our best with our work so it's not nice to bash us. We do the best we can with what we have. Besides if Orlando Bloom was such a bad actor he wouldn't be getting as much work as he is. A pretty face doesn't mean everything.

Fordim Hedgethistle · 11-09-2005, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Lush

Sadly, the latest definition of nice, in which "nice" is equated with "sweet!" (as it was used in "Dude, Where's My Car?" and "Napoleon Dynamite") and pronounced as "niiice" is not included on the online dictionary. Shame.

Lush, the Leggy-Bopper. Somehow, I think I've always known...

***Mister Underhill*** · 11-21-2005, 11:20 PM

Legolas. In a mirror. It makes perfect sense when you think about it.

Lush · 11-22-2005, 12:46 PM

I don't think I've ever tried to hide the fact that I'm a hardcore Leggy-Bopper. One of the many and the proud.

10-19-2005, 05:46 PM	#1
SunniGadi Animated Skeleton Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Massachusetts. Yay. Posts: 26	Everyone in the fellowship was corrupted, because they were mortals and they had their mortal needs and wants. I can only think of one thing to put Legolas in that scene; to give Orlando more air time. He doesn't have a real big air time/speaking part in Fellowship, and so maybe they just tried to get him in a bit more, to show that he was "a part of the group" and not completely detached, because he wasn't. He was just a big observer in Fellowship and then acted upon his observations in Two Towers. I was really sad they didn't put the falling of the Shire in the movies and the glory Merry and Pippin got for saving everyone. Or that Pippin and Merry grew when they were with Treebeard....or Tom Bombadil... __________________ ~~~~~~~~~ Stuff should go here. It might eventually.

10-22-2005, 04:12 PM	#2
Lush Fair and Cold Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the big onion Posts: 1,770	Why Legolas? Because he looks good while pouting. Seriously, remember that a bit later on in the movie, when Boromir is dying, there is a wonderful close-up of Legolas looking distressed. I think these moments in the movie are a means of bringing us closer to Legolas' somewhat neglected character. I think they are a nice touch on Peter Jackson's part. __________________ ~The beginning is the word and the end is silence. And in between are all the stories. This is one of mine~

10-22-2005, 10:03 PM	#7
Lush Fair and Cold Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the big onion Posts: 1,770	Sadly, the latest definition of nice, in which "nice" is equated with "sweet!" (as it was used in "Dude, Where's My Car?" and "Napoleon Dynamite") and pronounced as "niiice" is not included on the online dictionary. Shame. __________________ ~The beginning is the word and the end is silence. And in between are all the stories. This is one of mine~

11-02-2005, 10:30 PM	#8
ninlaith Wight Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: in my hobbit hole Posts: 204	I think that scene was added for the enhancement of the rings power. Like one of our fellow downers said previously in this thread "one by one it will destroy them all". I think that meant it will destroy them all as a fellowship and as a race. Each race "good", as opposed to evil, race was represented in the fellowship, Elf, man, dwarf, and hobbit. In Galadriel mirror each race and each friend was revealed to him as a prospect of whom may be taken by the ring. And by the way we actors do our best with our work so it's not nice to bash us. We do the best we can with what we have. Besides if Orlando Bloom was such a bad actor he wouldn't be getting as much work as he is. A pretty face doesn't mean everything. __________________ "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve!"-Bilbo Baggins

11-22-2005, 12:46 PM	#11
Lush Fair and Cold Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the big onion Posts: 1,770	I don't think I've ever tried to hide the fact that I'm a hardcore Leggy-Bopper. One of the many and the proud. __________________ ~The beginning is the word and the end is silence. And in between are all the stories. This is one of mine~

11-21-2005, 11:20 PM	#10
*Mister Underhill* Dread Horseman Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Behind you! Posts: 2,744	Legolas. In a mirror. It makes perfect sense when you think about it.