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Old 10-20-2005, 08:08 AM   #1
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What's the deadline today, O AngMod the Great?
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Old 10-20-2005, 08:36 AM   #2
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Weeell...it depends. Probably tomorrow morning, 7:30am; I was hoping to squeeze in another Day but time is too short now I think. So this challenge will be the last before the pause. The aftermath of the Nirnaeth changes everything, will kill off an unprecedented number of contestants and seems a suitable point for the interval.

So, yup, I've persuaded myself. 7:30 am tomorrow.

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Old 10-20-2005, 09:06 AM   #3
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Ok, here's an idea, what about Azaghal of Belegost?
If we evict him, he doesn't wound Glaurung and drive him off the battlefield, so Glaurung gets to kill more of the host of elves, elf-friends and dwarves. And also, if he isn't slain, then the dwarves don't do their dirge-singing, bearing away the body of their slain leader from the battlefield thing - I know that was a pretty cool scene but if they stay and fight for a bit longer then more of the host of Morgoth will be slain.
Plus we haven't evicted any dwarves yet.
++Azaghal
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Old 10-20-2005, 09:13 AM   #4
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i thought of that. another would be hurin or huor, for allowing the armies of gondolin to escape. if we take him out, maybe gondolin will have to make a last stand...

ill go with ++HURIN, as much as it freaking galls me.
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Old 10-20-2005, 09:31 AM   #5
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Old 10-20-2005, 09:36 AM   #6
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Lalaith, one problem with your idea is that without Azaghal-who owes Maedhros a life-debt-to lead them, will the folk of Belegost even turn up?

And Eonwe, I can't really see your reasoning at all. Hurin was the absolute bulwark of the Elven/Human front-line. Ejecting him would probably be the second-most damaging thing you could do to the Forces of Good, second only to evicting the even greater warrior and general Maedhros...

The only explanation is that, true to your new position as Morgoth's lieutenant, you're working to make his victory still more absolute!

I still say vote to drive off the nasty old Doom...
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Old 10-20-2005, 10:20 AM   #7
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Lalaith: as I said in my earlier post, Silm. says literaly that if it were not for Azaghal and the dwarfes, "Glaurung and his brood" would have destroyed the noldor.
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And but for them <the dwarfes> Glaurung and his brood would have withered all that was left of the Noldor.
I agree with Ang-not a good idea.

I'm also against the idea of voting on Hurin as it would reduce the forces of good, and they're already on the loosing side. If the forces of Gondolin wouldn't leave, there would be a lot less elves left which may contribute to the sake of today's task, but make the future less interesting. Plus Hurin is needed in the battle. One, if not the, mightiest warriors of men ever walked the Middle Earth turf.

And for Doom of Mandos, are we sure that this doom makes every Noldo weaker? I've rather thought of it like something that shows itself in bad luck and "fate".

No, I'm still for Uldor. If it means Ulwarth and his people go to, so be it. Ulfgang is man enough to lead those cursed men. Plus Bor with sons will stay, right?


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