TOL-IN-GAURHOTH XII, Erbar Telamarth

[mormegil]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

I'd be interested in hearing how Enca spotted Firefoot too. I honestly had no clue, or idea, Firefoot was the Seer.

My guess is they were systematically killing the 3 known innocents off one by one in order of least suspicion. For example nobody suspected LMP of being guilty and therefore he was the first to go. I was the most plausible of the three to be a wolf therefore I was last. It was somewhat unfortunate that it was Firefoot and not another that voted for Cailin.

Speaking of Firefoot, this is her second time at being a seer and I think she played brilliant. Before she died she left us sufficient clues to know who she dreamt of and who she didn't though Boromir was a bit ambiguous but I believe that was out of necessity. It's a difficult role to play and she did it very well.

Ah now I lament that I couldn't trust Mister Underhill sooner though because the day we lynched Formendacil I wanted to do a double lynching of Enca too but I didn't dare speak my thoughts openly to anybody I just had to hope and wait.

[Boromir88]

I basically had the same reasoning with tgwbs, as far as suicidal. I thought if I was going to attract this much doubt and suspicion, just get me out of the way and leave it up to the "knuckleheads" to catch the last wolf. Which they did. Congrats.

[Mister Underhill]

It's fascinating how even an innocent can look guilty as sin when viewed in the right light. Sorry, Fea and Shorty. I don't think I could ever be a trial lawyer -- sorry, loyer -- I couldn't live with the uncertainty, even when it's only that last little 1% of doubt.

The game is quite interesting strategy-wise, too. You have to look suspicious enough that the wolves want to keep you alive, but not so suspicious that your fellows lynch you. I lucked out a little bit in that regard, I reckon, with some blundering early moves.

That second-to-last day was a disaster, and credit to Enca for creating such confusion without completely giving herself away. I was so mixed up that night that I probably could have been talked into casting a vote for myself. When it was all over I was sitting at my computer wondering how I ended up lynching Shorty/Boro when my top suspects most of the day had been Enca/Fea. To my dying day I'll never understand the suicide votes -- I was convinced one of you was running the ultimate bold bluff.

Firefoot voted for two wolves in three votes; I assumed that's why she got mauled. Nice job, Fire, in leaving clues that could be deciphered after your demise.

[Gurthang]

++the phantom

For Best Moderator ever. Seriously, that was some pretty awesome narration.

Oh, and lynch

++the phantom

for dragging it out so long and trying to kill us with all the suspense.

Excellent game everyone.

[the phantom]

Seer: Firefoot
Ranger: littlemanpoet
Hunter: Eomer of the Rohirrim
Wolves: Cailin, Formendacil, Encaitare
Cursed: Mister Underhill

NIGHT ONE
Seer Dream: mormegil

DAY ONE
Hunter Pick: Cailin (a Wolf)
Lynch: Anguirel

NIGHT TWO
Seer Dream: Boromir88
Ranger Protect: mormegil
Hunter Pick: Cailin (a Wolf)
Wolf Kill: Eomer of the Rohirrim (the Hunter, takes Cailin the Wolf with him)

DAY TWO
Lynch: Shelob

NIGHT THREE
Seer Dream: Mister Underhill (the Cursed)
Ranger Protect: Boromir88
Wolf Kill: littlemanpoet (the Ranger)

DAY THREE
Lynch: Formendacil (a Wolf), Lhunardawen

NIGHT FOUR
Seer Dream: Encaitare (a Wolf)
Wolf Kill: Firefoot (the Seer)

DAY FOUR
Lynch: Boromir88, the guy who be short

NIGHT FIVE
Wolf Pick: mormegil

DAY FIVE
Lynch: Feanor of the Peredhil, Encaitare (final Wolf)

VILLAGERS WIN

SURVIVORS
Mister Underhill and Estelyn Telcontar

[the phantom]

So, no one has spotted one of my little hidden secrets?

Two of them are fairly tough to spot, but there are three that are not too difficult.

Need hints?

[The Saucepan Man]

Boy, I wish that I could have participated in that one. Alas, attendance at a work seminar prevented me (although, as it turned out, I did have internet access there). Still, for a game that I wasn't playing in, I did seem to feature rather a lot ...

Whether I am playing, or merely standing on the sidelines cheering, I always seem to become convinced that someone innocent is a Wolf. For the last two Days, I was shouting at my screen for you all to lynch Esty. I couldn't understand why everyone seemed so confident in her innocence.

Mind you, I was also shouting at you all for lynching Boro, who was quite clearly innocent to me. So at least I got something right.

Great game and well played by all concerned. But particular praise for Boro (whose "new persona" amused me greatly), lmp (for his early lecherous antics), morm (for being so clearly committed to the cause) and Esty and Underhillo (for getting into the swing of things remarkably quickly, given the experience of many of the other players). Bad luck to the Wolves too, who made the best of a bad situation. A difficult set of innocents to deceive, and it looks from phantom's list that Eomer's pick to hunt Cailin was at least part random, given that he chose her on Night 1. Although credit must go to Eomer for the move which set up the conditions for a villager win and for, I believe, the first successful use of the Hunter's specific gift.

I would praise the phantom too for his outstanding moderation (both in formulating the rules and for the narraction), but I am afraid that, if I did, his head would swell to such proportions that it would burst out of my screen ...

[Boromir88]

Mind you, I was also shouting at you all for lynching Boro, who was quite clearly innocent to me. So at least I got something right.

Hey, I actually had another defender. I really was surprised I survived the first night. I kind of wanted to try something new (inspired by Fea in her WW Jr I) and wanted to add my "insulting role" touch. The other games I was more "proper" in analyzing everything, here I just kind of went with my gut feeling, and think a bit of luck was in it too.

Again, I say this was the funnest one I have been in, mostly due to the excellently modded game by Master Phantom (I think you deserve this title now ) and all the members involved.

[the phantom]

I looked up the "Erbar Telamarth" a few days ago and found Quenya word elements

Yep.

That's all Erbar Telamarth is- a combination of certain word elements.

The definitions of the elements tell, in a vague and general sense, what the village was.

[littlemanpoet]

Originally Posted by mormegil

Ah now I lament that I couldn't trust Mister Underhill sooner though because the day we lynched Formendacil I wanted to do a double lynching of Enca too but I didn't dare speak my thoughts openly to anybody I just had to hope and wait.

Ah but you could have trusted him sooner. On Day 3 I was going to point out an additional factor in Cailin's now infamous slip-up post in which she suggested that the werewolves were experienced. I found this interesting, and seeing as it was part of the same paragraph that had pointed her out to me as a werewolf, I decided to hypothesize that Esty and Mr. U. were both innocent ordinaries, and see where that would lead me. It led to strong suspicions of Guy, Formy, and Encai, in that order. I wasn't sure which of those three were the two remaining werewolves, but I was pretty convinced that two of these were the ones. Enca's vote on Day 1 incriminated her: she saved Cailin. What about bluffing and double bluffing? Well, Occam's Razor is a handy tool: accept the simplest answer that successfully accounts for all of the information. Fact: Encai did save Cailin (not Anguirel). On Day 2, Encai defended me and Mr. U., which I discounted based on my innocence and the hypothesized innocence of Mr. U. Formy defended Guy, which placed Guy in suspicion with me. Guy defended Enca. And Formy kept voting for Mr. U., whom I thought to be innocent. And Boromir kept voting for Formy, which fit my hypothesis of Boro's innocence and Formy's guilt. But I was going to save my strongest attack for Guy, because so much of what he said on Day 2 was self-incriminating. Oh well, maybe I'll last longer in another game.