If they still had Gandalf... - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Glirdan · 11-08-2005, 10:06 PM

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Saruman was controlling the weather, and he sent the storm. I guess it depends on whether you're going by the book or the movies.

Yes, it does depend on what you're going by, but I think we should be going by the books seeing as they were written by Tolkien where as the movie, even though it was very accurate, was not and is slightly innacurate. I understand that they had to change a few things in order for the general public (in other words, the non Barrow-Downers and other who've read the books before the movies) to understand what was going on.

I do agree with you that the three days would not really make a difference, except for the fact that if Gandalf did not listen to Radagast and go see Saruman and instead went back to the Shire and told them to leave right away, they would have gotten to Rivendell earlier. Now, a few people would already have arrived and they would not really need to wait for Boromir to have the Council and after they sent out the scouts, they could have left, still with Nine except maybe Gimli, Legolas and definetely Boromir would not have been in it. Elrond would have chosen people to go with them.

Himilsillion · 11-09-2005, 08:50 PM

Without Borromir on the Fellowship would the Fellowship have broken up? If the Fellowship didn't break up would Aragorn gone to Gondor and claim the throne? Without Gandalf fighting in the war would the war be successfull? Would Frodo be able to sneak into mordor with a company of nine companions? Would Gandalf be "promoted" to Gandalf the White? Lots of questions that my or my not need answering. As I have mentioned without Gandalf and Aragorn being in Rohan the story would not have happened the way it did. For one, Aragorn would have never went through the paths of the dead. Gandalf wouldn't have been able to save the corupted Theoden, reuntite the forces of Erkanbrand, or help defend the White City. Whithout the prescence of Aragorn and Gandalf in the war Sauron would have won.

Glirdan · 11-09-2005, 08:58 PM

I you look under Novice and Newcomers, I've started a new thread about that exact topic. What would have happened if Boromir didn't die, so please, join in the disscussion over there.

11-09-2005, 08:50 PM	#2
Himilsillion Animated Skeleton Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: In Sweet Home Chicago Posts: 30	Without Borromir on the Fellowship would the Fellowship have broken up? If the Fellowship didn't break up would Aragorn gone to Gondor and claim the throne? Without Gandalf fighting in the war would the war be successfull? Would Frodo be able to sneak into mordor with a company of nine companions? Would Gandalf be "promoted" to Gandalf the White? Lots of questions that my or my not need answering. As I have mentioned without Gandalf and Aragorn being in Rohan the story would not have happened the way it did. For one, Aragorn would have never went through the paths of the dead. Gandalf wouldn't have been able to save the corupted Theoden, reuntite the forces of Erkanbrand, or help defend the White City. Whithout the prescence of Aragorn and Gandalf in the war Sauron would have won. __________________ Elwood: It's 106 miles to Chicago. We got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes; it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses. Jake: Hit it!

11-09-2005, 08:58 PM	#3
Glirdan Energetic Essence Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Where Lark Nor Eagle Ever Flew Posts: 3,285	I you look under Novice and Newcomers, I've started a new thread about that exact topic. What would have happened if Boromir didn't die, so please, join in the disscussion over there. __________________ *I'm going to buy you a kitty, I'm going to let you fall in love with the kitty, and one cold, winter night, I'm going to steal into your house and punch you in the face!* Fenris Wolf