Tol-in-Gaurhoth XIII: Enter Shamville

[Anguirel]

I think Lalaith really might be a case of barking up the wrong tree, but there are arguments that tell against her. They are certainly not, though, so facile as "she thinks from a werewolf's perspective! She must be a werewolf!" That reasoning is absurd, and sounds like it stems from a witch-hunter's incendiary ramblings...

Her vote for Wilwa is a bit incriminating, but the other option, Menel, was also, as far as the wolves knew, an innocent. She also spoke against the risky double-lynching plan.

Plan? What does that remind me of? Ah yes, remember the stalwart Undertaker and his plans, supposedly to provoke discussion, that sank one by one! Note that he's leaning towards Lalaith. Oh yes, I'm onto my old quarry again...

[tar-ancalime]

I don't particularly suspect tar-a, because she incriminated Kitanna, and because she seems often to reach the same kind of conclusions I do. (Sorry, tar-a, that doesn't really help you given how much suspicion I am under).

Not to worry--the truth will out, and there is only one wolf left, after all--I think it's too late for guilt-by-association.

Lalaith, you posted:

There's four of us left now and of those I suspect LMP (because he didn't go for Kitanna yesterday

...but I checked back and he did vote for Kitanna. He said he suspected you most, but Kitanna was definitely on his radar, and don't forget yesterDAY there were two wolves to worry about.

I'm sorry if I seem to be on your case toDAY, Lalaith--there have just been some inconsistencies in your posts lately, and each one I see makes me a little more worried about you. YesterDAY I couldn't make heads or tails of the Lalaith/Glirdan/lmp situation (as you can plainly see by reading my wishy-washy, mind-changing posts); but toDAY's posts (from everyone) are much more illuminating, I must say.

Nice to have our village jester back, by the way! Do you have any other thoughts on the events of the past few DAYS, Anguirel? I don't think I'm alone in saying that your voice has been sorely missed (especially since we know you're to be trusted!).

[Lalaith]

I still think Glirdan is innocent, and I think we should go after the one upon whom his suspicion has most consistently rested. Though he's not a known innocent, his behavior in this village, even for a jester, has been all too consistent, in my mind, for him to be a werewolf, and thus his suspicion needs to be given a good look.

If he's innocent, he knows no more than the rest of us. (Oh and he's not a jester, he's undead...) And the suspicions of the known innocents are presumably slightly more valuable to us right now...


Firefoot, I would have thought my open sympathy for Kitanna yesterday would be more likely to help clear me than incriminate me. Although I suppose I could be a wolf doing a bold double-bluff. And I reminded you about LMP because there are four of us who are uncleared and I thought you'd forgotten, because you didn't mention him at all...although you are a careful and thorough villager so I should have realised you omitted him deliberately.

No apologies needed from anyone, for being on anyone else's case. There are four of us who could be wolves and we should all be thoroughly examined and scrutinised.
Sorry, yet another hasty post, I'll be back in another three-four hours, when I'll have more time.

[Lalaith]

Oh and nice to have you back with us, Sir Jester. You'd been worrying me. Can I have those feathers back please, my geese are getting cold...

[tar-ancalime]

I have to vote now--

++Lalaith

[Firefoot]

Just a few comments; I will be voting within the hour.

If the hunter is Glirdan, Lalaith, or tar, (LMP has already stated he is not), I would say that it would be beneficial to the village for s/he to come out. Then we would be down to two (or three, if you want to count LMP). If we're wrong today we lynch the other tomorrow.

If I'm suspicious, why follow me and vote for Kitanna? If I'm a wolf, wouldn't I lead you down the garden path, so to speak?

Well, at the point I voted it was a moot point - Kitanna already had the majority.

tar is seeming very slippery to me right now, but I am leaning towards Lalaith for a vote today. If Lalaith should be innocent, I want to lynch tar tomorrow.

[Eonwe]

heres a thought:

im pretty sure we can win now, without even looking at suspicion. just by lynching those not porven innocent.

Ang
Eonwe
Firefoot
Hunter

these are all known innocent

that leaves three people of unkonwn alliagence

we kill one today. (4,2)
wolf kills one at night (3,2)
we kill one tomarrow (3,1)
wolf kills one tomarrow night (2,1)
we kill whoever is left in the morning (2,0)

unless wilwa screwed something up (which is highly doubtable) we are set to win. if the hunter shows up.

im still betting on tar-a being a wolf.

Originally Posted by tar-a

A revealed Hunter is an obvious target for our remaining wolf, and as soon as possible: the wolf would likely try to take the Hunter down while the pool of suspects is as large as possible to lessen the probability of being the Hunter's target. The longer the Hunter stays anonymous, though, the less-appealing of a target s/he makes because of the increased likelihood of the wolf's going down too.

not so. the more i look at it, the more i see that the hunter must come out:

if we lynch the wolf today, game over, none of this matters.

if we kill and inncoent, taht would leave us with (3, hunter vs. 2 unknown)

if the wolf kills the hunter, there are two possiblilities:

1. hunter kills an inncoent (3, 1 {who we will know must be the wolf})
2. hunter kills teh wolf (game over)

if teh wolf goes for anyother known innocent, it will play out as i expained earlier.

so the wolf cannot get at the hunter, because it will leave him by himself, or dead.

i don't see how we can lose, but it would be nice to get to the bottom by logic, not rote (sp?) lynching. and it think tar-a is due for the most suspicion.

[Lalaith]

I've been pondering what to do for the best - I had thought it would be quite cool to go to the pyre silently, and take someone with me. But on balance, I think Firefoot is right, time to unveil.

I am the Hunter.

Edit: cross post with Eonwe, who also agrees with what I've just done.