What's the Worst Thing Characters had to Face in Middle Earth? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Farael · 11-27-2005, 01:55 PM

Well, I'm afraid I must disagree with Kuruharan. I think he still had hope, but of the 'subconscious' type. What I mean by that is that his senses told him "it's all over" yet his heart knew that he had to go on. Of course it takes a HUGE will to follow your heart when your brain says you've lost already, but I think Frodo never lost hope. If he had, he would have hidden the ring and run away, yet he kept on going, in spite of the pain, thirst and hunger (oh yeah, and in spite of all those lovely fellows known as "orcs")

Regarding Davem's comments, I don't know if Frodo was aware of a higher being than himself, yet he was definetly aware of a sense of destiny. I don't know who Frodo believed had set his destiny but I'm as certain as one can be with an interpretation of a story (which is not really very certain) that Frodo felt it was his destiny to go on with the Quest to destroy the ring. I can't remember the exact quote, but I do remember Frodo saying in a couple of instances that the Ring was his burden to carry (and he did not only say it out of the selfishness the ring itself imposed on the ring bearers, I think he really meant what he said)
Still, I do agree that if he went on with that destiny it was because he wanted to help others and not himself. As I said before, he did not think he would survive, he was making that sacrifice for everyone else and THAT (to me) is the worst thing Frodo had to face.

On a bit of a sidenote, I love this kind of discussions! =)

Farael

11-27-2005, 01:55 PM	#12
Farael Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: In hospitals, call rooms and (rarely) my apartment. Posts: 1,538	Well, I'm afraid I must disagree with Kuruharan. I think he still had hope, but of the 'subconscious' type. What I mean by that is that his senses told him "it's all over" yet his heart knew that he had to go on. Of course it takes a HUGE will to follow your heart when your brain says you've lost already, but I think Frodo never lost hope. If he had, he would have hidden the ring and run away, yet he kept on going, in spite of the pain, thirst and hunger (oh yeah, and in spite of all those lovely fellows known as "orcs") Regarding Davem's comments, I don't know if Frodo was aware of a higher being than himself, yet he was definetly aware of a sense of destiny. I don't know who Frodo believed had set his destiny but I'm as certain as one can be with an interpretation of a story (which is not really very certain) that Frodo felt it was his destiny to go on with the Quest to destroy the ring. I can't remember the exact quote, but I do remember Frodo saying in a couple of instances that the Ring was his burden to carry (and he did not only say it out of the selfishness the ring itself imposed on the ring bearers, I think he really meant what he said) Still, I do agree that if he went on with that destiny it was because he wanted to help others and not himself. As I said before, he did not think he would survive, he was making that sacrifice for everyone else and THAT (to me) is the worst thing Frodo had to face. On a bit of a sidenote, I love this kind of discussions! =) Farael