Links between characters. Why is tolkien different? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

littlemanpoet · 02-18-2003, 09:21 PM

I was hoping for something a little more complete, but by direct link I suppose you mean that there was always a motive based on relationship? If so, the villains we can list are Morgoth, Sauron, Saruman, the Witch King, and Gollum (the most complex and sympathetic villain) The victims? Well, there aren't victims of crimes, per se. However, Morgoth's enemy was Feanor, Sauron's was the line of Elros, Saruman's was Rohan and the Shire, the Witch King's was Arthedane, then the Ringbearer, and then Minas Tirith, and Gollum's was - um - Sauron or Frodo, interchangeably. Right?

Do you see direct connections between Villain and enemy? I do. I think it's inevitable in ANY story, actually, although I can see the link being indirect, such as between Sauron and Frodo. So perhaps it depends.

02-18-2003, 09:21 PM	#4
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	I was hoping for something a little more complete, but by direct link I suppose you mean that there was always a motive based on relationship? If so, the villains we can list are Morgoth, Sauron, Saruman, the Witch King, and Gollum (the most complex and sympathetic villain) The victims? Well, there aren't victims of crimes, per se. However, Morgoth's enemy was Feanor, Sauron's was the line of Elros, Saruman's was Rohan and the Shire, the Witch King's was Arthedane, then the Ringbearer, and then Minas Tirith, and Gollum's was - um - Sauron or Frodo, interchangeably. Right? Do you see direct connections between Villain and enemy? I do. I think it's inevitable in ANY story, actually, although I can see the link being indirect, such as between Sauron and Frodo. So perhaps it depends.