Tol-in-Gaurhoth XIV: Nyárë Nauroron Númenoreva - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Alcarillo · 12-13-2005, 06:20 PM

NIGHT 1
Seer – The Saucepan Man

DAY 1
Hunter – Dancing Spawn

NIGHT 2
Seer – Boro
Ranger - Aiwendil
Hunter - Wilwa

DAY 2
Hunter - Fordim

NIGHT 3
Ranger – The Saucepan Man
Hunter – Wilwa

DAY 3
Hunter - Kath

NIGHT 4
Ranger – Formendacil
Hunter – Lhuna

DAY 4
Hunter – Kath? (I'm not sure. Aiwendil, do you remember?)

NIGHT 5
Hunter - Mormegil

mormegil · 12-13-2005, 06:38 PM

Wolves, very well played. I never once suspected Holby. I think she makes a great wolf. I believe that this was Formendacil's first time as a wolf and he played wonderfully.

I played miserably however. I must say that while Fordim played great as a cobbler I think I did better at that role this game

. Everything I did seemed to go wrong and I got rather frustrated and it felt like I was a decendent of Hurin and cursed by Morgoth.

Anyway great game all and fun modding Alcarillo.

Aiwendil · 12-13-2005, 06:46 PM

Well done, Formendacil and Holbytlass - and Spawn, whose death protected Formendacil for the rest of the game!

Apologies to my fellow villagers for dooming us last night - I was utterly convinced that Mormegil was a Wolf, after he voted for Lhuna.

Anyway, 'twas tremendous fun. I look forward to playing again.

Edit: Yes, it was Kath I hunted on DAY 4 - mainly because I thought she'd be lynched, and I wanted to have my options open that NIGHT - not that it would have done much good.

mormegil · 12-13-2005, 06:57 PM

Sauce you have my promise that if I'm ever the seer again with you in a game I won't dream of you the first night okay.

I agree with you though, I'm not sure why but always around the middle of the game the scary thought comes to my mind that you are a wolf and I create some crazy theory to fit what you have done no based on fact

**The Saucepan Man** · 12-13-2005, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by The Saucepan Man

Glad I voted for you on Day 1 now ...

On second thoughts, I'm not. It occurs to me that, had I voted for Formendacil on Day 1, I would have caused the double lynching of Spawn and Formy ...

Not that there was much chance of me taking that much of a risk so early on.

Gurthang · 12-13-2005, 07:11 PM

Down to the depths with all of you.

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Originally Posted by Formendacil

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Originally Posted by Boromir88

Formendacil, you have played lovely, I would never have suspected it.

Of course you didn't. No one did. Except maybe Morm... and the Hunter so nicely suspected HIM last night.

I beg to differ. Allow me to point out my second to last post.

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Originally Posted by Me

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Originally Posted by Boromir88

Now I as' you, and this may make me surspected, but I dun care. If yous peeple werent so busy talkin' 'bout all these cunnin' wolf tricks, you might be catchin' the real perpetrators who are obvious wulfs. Sumtimes da answers are sittin' right in front of yur faces, but you cant see 'em, cus your too concentrated on sumone trickin' you.

But, dis may get me surspected...if I wus a wulf, and knowin' Aiwendil wus votin' fur Spawn, why the 'eck wuld I vote fur her, wid Formendacil up by one vote at the time?

No, throw out all this nonsense about wulves tryin' to throw a blanket over our eyes. The only peeple throwin' blanket over our eyes, is you durn peeple that try to think up these crazy theories.

Okay, now Boromir's got me looking at him. In this post, he says don't try to make up schemes that wolves might do; it will just confuse us. Makes sense to me. But then he starts putting out schemes, not entirely unlike the ones he just denounced.

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Originally Posted by Boromir88

Wulves like to do a few things.

1) Keep peeple alive who are the main surspects. As long as the 'ave the peeple who are the main surspects aroun' it makes findin' a wulf 'arder.

2) Set peeple up. They like to make it seem sum peeple as bein' more suspishus (say by killin' the person that sumone else voted fur). And that's what I think the case with Holby is (as of right now), she was set up. The wulves killed the person she voted fur to make 'er look mor' suspishus.

Also note that these posts were back-to-back and only 10 minutes apart. That's quick shifting, Boromir.

Wilwa is still about the same for me, her vote yesterday seems wolfish. That doesn't mean she is, but it looks that way regardless.

And now Formendacil has added to my suspicion. He posted about three people, yet just listed possibilities, never telling which he thought. Just this or that, not very helpful to me.

Holbytlass is 95% innocent in my eyes. All of her arguments (against me ) seem sound and reasonable, despite their falseness. Master Saucepan I (mostly) believe to be innocent, too, because it makes sense that Jack would dream of him. And Aiwendil's posts just keep astounding me with how reasonable they are. I especially like his how an innocent would act vs. how a wolf would act.

So, in everpopular list format(no order):

Likely innocents:
Holbytlass
Master Saucepan
Aiwendil

Suspect:
Wilwarin
Formendacil
Boromir

On a completely other tangent, Fordim's lists and numbers just keep coming and coming, and then going in circles. I don't really see it as a wolvish plot, but it just seems to be taking up space. Cobbler jumps to mind.

Hmm. Maybe if you would have listened to me after I was proven innocent, we could have still pulled this out. I was wrong about Holbytlass (great job by the way) but I pinned the other two.

I had Fordim down as the Cobbler, and, oh, he is! and Formendacil-wolf was then on my list. I find it very ironic that I voted for a wolf on the first day and got lynched for it. Yes, you got what you all deserved.

Oh, and it made me rather angry that you would lynch the cobbler. Simply ignoring him would make more sense(till later at least) for it saves an innocent.

Holbytlass · 12-13-2005, 07:28 PM

Night2
Holby: Man, talk about bad luck! Well, what do you think? I say we kill Gurthang cause he's the seer but that of course is instant death to you. But if he's left alive and when no one else claims to be the seer, you're dead anyway and he's gotten to proclaim another dream.
It's up to you how we work it tonight since you're on the hot seat.

Formen:OUCH!!!!
Bad luck indeed!
I've only just read the thread... and boy am I freaked...
I think you may be right about killing Gurthang. He's dangerous as all heck. Meanwhile, how would it be if I pretended to be the seer? After all, I was the first one to indict Spawn, and she was definitely a Werewolf...

Holby: The only thing is that still leaves Gurthang to proclaim about whomever he dreamt about 'tonight'.
I say kill him now, you're dead today or tomorrow. But as I said, I'll follow what you want to do. If you want to leave Gurthang, then who shall we kill tonight?
I forgot!! about the ranger, he/she is going to protect gurthang! So we need to go a different route, and get Gurthang tomorrow night (assuming he's the real deal) I suggest Jack- I find him to be annoying (in the game ).

I thought we were done for, it would be the shortest game in history. Dancing Spawn got lynched-Gurthang dreamt of Formendacil-and I was paranoid that Jack was the hunter and would take me down. I found jack to be annoying 'cause (now here's where I'm an idiot, didn't think of him being the seer) I thought I fumbled into own of his traps and didn't want to debate my way out the next day so "kill him off".

Killed Jack.

Night3:
Formen:What a great day!
Man, talk about lucky! You picked off the Seer, we somehow lucked into a double-innocents lynch, and we're both considered fairly innocent.
I've got no idea at the moment who to kill (and after last night I'm more than willing to let you pick if worst comes to worst, although I hope it doesn't), or what strategies (if any, because none seems to have worked well) we ought to employ tomorrow.I'm just pumped about a really good day of slaughter!

Holby: Cool!! we need to leave SpM cause that's probably who the ranger has chosen. I think we need to kill Wilwarin. She's suspected by alot of people and this will make the others scramble. Or maybe Kath, she's been the ranger more times than I've been wolf.
Whatever we're doing seems to be working so far. Tell me what you think if ya can.
Something else, in Wayne's first post he bolds an r-o-d which is ord(inary). Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but do you think he might be bluffing?
Also, I was thinking of ways to keep the others guessing and I think our kills should have no rhyme or reason, something like, kill the #1 suspect of whoever got lynched (except us o'course) or kill whoever wrote the 9th post of that day. Something to think about,

Formen: I thought a little about Fordim, since he's seen as my alter ego, almost... We've been paired together so much, and he thinks me innocent, so his death would shine nothing bad on ME, but still...
Wilwa sounds good... Wayne's death would really confuse them, since he's a distraction as much as anything else.

Killed Wilwarin.

Night 4:
Holby: So far so good, we have 'em confused. I think SpM tonight. I'm fairly confident that the ranger protected him last night and therefore can't tonight. Plus, it will confuse things again. What do ya think?

Formen: Confusing them is good...
SPM is a good choice, on that score. He hasn't had either of us under scrutiny, not really, so killing him could be very perplexing.
On the same score, I'm thinking that Fordhim might be a good kill, especially when one adds in that he didn't post at all on Day 3... However, his secondary fears included me, so it's not really a wise thought, now that I think about it...

Holby: I think we need to kill off one of the main loud mouths (Spm/Morm) and leave the secondary louds (Fordim/Boro) in place, they'll start to get more suspicion because they both seem to be holding back esp Boro, at least compared to their usual selves. On a personal note, I want to leave Fordim alive as long as possible while I'm still alive because of the whole "score" thing .
We'll all get looked at more closely. The only thing is that if SpM is killed, people might think I (being a wolf) killed him since people are starting to think we're in cahoots then his innocent death will clear me. I'm willing to take that risk, in fact, it would be a good thing I did get lynched now. Not that I'm going to try to on purpose but if it happened then there are still so many villagers left for you to hide among. And a wolf working by themself is far harder to catch.

Formen: Okay, your logic works for me... SPM it is...

Killed SpM.

Night5
Holby: Yea!! The ranger got it and quite fitting a wolf did the chop! Tonight I think either Aiwendil or Kath. Both are good candidates for keeping things confused. What say you, or do you have someone else in mind? I really haven't thought about who might be the cobbler, do you think it might be Fordim?

Formen: Your guess is as good as mine regarding the Cobbler... and if so, we want to keep him alive. Seven villagers going into the evening, minus one overnight kill (although that Hunter could screw things up) makes six villagers. With a Cobbler we would hold the balance of power.
I actually wouldn't be surprised if Fordhim was the Cobbler. Boromir and Morm are playing their usual game, Kath is hardly around, and Aiwendil is playing the worst game I have ever seen if he is a Cobbler.
That leaves Fordhim.It also leaves him alive.
I'm inclined to agree with your two picks- and I think that Aiwendil is the better one, simply because you've been gunning for him the whole time.
Morm has me a little worried... but I think we can survive this game. My main thought is that he has been trying to get the Gifteds to come out of hiding so he can trap us- which would make him the Hunter. Because who other than the Hunter would know if someone was lying?Just a thought...

Holby: It's getting down to the wire and I'm not so confident tonight...
Fordim-possible cobbler, leave alive
Morm-possible hunter, leave alive
Kath-seen most suspicious;kill-starting to be a pattern, would rather leave alive
Aiwendil-seen innocent;kill-definitely confuse things,might be good bluff for me
Boromir-in a way, been under the radar for the village and the wolves; could confuse things cause he'd almost be a safe kill and that's not what we've been doing. possible hunter also.
Aiwendil or Boromir-village on the whole see both fairly innocent. Aiwen would be good bluff kill for me. Boro would change the kill pattern for us, that would keep things confused. Thoughts now?

Formen: I bet you that Morm is going to take me down if he's the hunter...
As for Boromir/Aiwendil, I'd rather see Aiwendil gone, because he's been Morm's ready accomplice- and I'd just as soon not see that. Boromir is more ready to dispute with Morm... and so a better one to leave alive.
Otherwise, I agree with your assessment, and think either is good.

Killed Aiwendil.
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This was real fun. I'm sorry our sister wolf, Dancing Spawn, got killed right away, what happened? Glad for the chance to work with Formendacil. Alcarillo, great job modding!! Always a pleasure to be rubbing cyber shoulders with you all.

Gurthang · 12-13-2005, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Holbytlass

Night2
Holby: Man, talk about bad luck! Well, what do you think? I say we kill Gurthang cause he's the seer but that of course is instant death to you. But if he's left alive and when no one else claims to be the seer, you're dead anyway and he's gotten to proclaim another dream.
It's up to you how we work it tonight since you're on the hot seat.

Formen:OUCH!!!!
Bad luck indeed!
I've only just read the thread... and boy am I freaked...
I think you may be right about killing Gurthang. He's dangerous as all heck. Meanwhile, how would it be if I pretended to be the seer? After all, I was the first one to indict Spawn, and she was definitely a Werewolf...

Holby: The only thing is that still leaves Gurthang to proclaim about whomever he dreamt about 'tonight'.
I say kill him now, you're dead today or tomorrow. But as I said, I'll follow what you want to do. If you want to leave Gurthang, then who shall we kill tonight?
I forgot!! about the ranger, he/she is going to protect gurthang! So we need to go a different route, and get Gurthang tomorrow night (assuming he's the real deal) I suggest Jack- I find him to be annoying (in the game ).

Holy cow, it would have worked.

I cannot believe that. You guys were brilliant. I am really surprised that my plan was that close to working completely as I had hoped. To think, if you had just chosen me instead of Jack, then this just might have been the shortest game ever. All I can say is that you guys were just as lucky as I was. But my luck fell through when yours kicked in.

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Originally Posted by Me

I wish you all the best of luck during the night. Well, except for the wolves, I hope you have the crappiest luck ever.

*sigh* So close, and yet so far.

Lhunardawen · 12-14-2005, 01:11 AM

Twice a werewolf? You apparently learn from your mistakes. I hate you, Formendacil.

And Holby? Geesh, I never even considered her.

Sorry for that case, mormegil. I have to admit, though, that I would have done that in the phantom's game if I haven't been killed by Formendacil! Perhaps it's because you've been playing in every single game I played.

This is funnily pathetic, but while reading Alcarillo's death post for me, I was almost in tears!

Pity for myself and the village, perhaps.

One last thing for this time: Why in the world were you suspecting me???

Formendacil · 12-13-2005, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mormegil

Wolves, very well played. I never once suspected Holby. I think she makes a great wolf. I believe that this was Formendacil's first time as a wolf and he played wonderfully.

You've played too many games, Morm. If you think back to the Phantom's game, I was a Werewolf- and you had me pegged.

Quite frankly, this game was the exact opposite of that one. We had ALL the breaks this time... "innocent" status from almost the beginning, Seer kill on Night2, a Ranger lynching, the Hunter killing the most suspicious villager...

After Day1, I was totally expecting another debacle like WWXII, when the Wolves were doomed from Day1. However, once Day2 got into gear, and I discovered that people thought me and Holby both innocent... things started looking up.

It's true, Gurthang, that a couple of people worried about me- but the safest place in this game to be, if you are a werewolf, is on the suspect list- as an unimportant suspect. No one pays too as much attention to you there.

Henceforth, I propose that this be the "Game of Three Cobblers", since I was totally convinced of Gurthang's Cobbler-ness, then of Fordhim's, and ultimately completely confused as to whether it was Boromir or Fordhim.

Anyways, a totally awesome game. And I don't just say that because I won.

**The Saucepan Man** · 12-13-2005, 06:45 PM

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Seer – The Saucepan Man

I hate to say I told you so ...

Besides, since when am I ever a Wolf? In the 6 or so games I have played I have only been something other than an ordinary villager once!

And the morale of the story is that Boro and Morm need to stop getting suspicious of The Saucepan Man around half way through the game.

But I must congratulate Holbytlass and Formendacil, even at the risk of provoking further gloating. After a hairy start, I don't believe that either came anywhere near being lynched. I had a residual concern about Formy, although nothing that I was going to act on in the immediate future. And I regarded Holby as almost certainly innocent.

Two scarily innocuous Wolves, indeed. How many games must I play before it gets into me befuddled skull that those as seems most innocent are most likely most guilty? Although that reasoning would've probably 'ad me voting for Aiwendil.

Well played too, Fordim. It never actually occurred to me that you were the Cobbler before I died, although it should have done. All that separating out villagers into groups and telling us that there might be a Wolf there or there might not. As I said, self-appointed stater of the bleedin' obvious.

And it's now painfully obvious what you were aiming to (and did in fact) achieve. Glad I voted for you on Day 1 now, though, and I hereby formally retract my apology.

And excellent modding by Alcarillo too. The highly descriptive morning/evening inserts were most entertaining and I loved the background story too. Great job!

And an enjoyable game all round, if rather short. I was well aware of the stress these games can cause, but I'm not sure that anything will quite match the tension, from my perspective, towards the end of Day 3, when the voting basically forced me into making a choice between what turned out to be four innocents. I was very close to just voting for myself since I was pretty sure that, practically all of the choices would lead to me being the prime suspect the next day. I'm sorry Wayne, but I am afraid that you were the best choice at the time, although it probably sealed my fate that night.

As for the last day, well there was never even a fool's hope. Good try, Boro, but I think that you achieved the best that you could have hoped for, which was to take the Cobbler down with you.

Rune Son of Bjarne · 12-13-2005, 07:03 PM

Alcarillo – mod - What can I say but brilliant
dancing spawn of ungoliant – werewolf – Allthough you died early, I thought you did a great job. Never suspectet you.

Jack – seer – Had you just survieved a little longer

Rune son of Bjarne – ordinary – Now that was a kill that made no sence.

Gurthang – ordinary – I love your way of playing this game, quite suprising.

Wilwarin538 – ordinary –

WaynetheGoblin – ordinary – I was so happy when you actually made a post that was longer than one sentence. If I had lived at the time I would have tried to save you just for that.

The Saucepan Man – ordinary – Don't know what to say. . . One moment I thought you were a wolf then I was convinced of your inoccens. Guess it was smart of the wolfs to let you live for a while.

Lhunardawen – ranger – Never understood the case against her. I was convinced of her inoccense quite early on. Great Game!

Aiwendil – hunter – You played a great game, exept for the killing of Mormegil, but none could have guessed that. First I suspectet you, then I thought you were inoccent and in the end I thought you were a wolf

Mormegil – ordinary – Just when you made the dubble lynch happen I was sure you where a Wolf, but as the game went on I became less suspisios of you.

Boromir88 – ordinary – I never knew what to think of you! Great stunt you pulled at the end.

Fordim Hedgethistle – cobbler – well you played a great game, I never knew what to think of you. At last I convinced my self that you where a wolf.

Kath – ordinary – Not much to say about you other than you where most likely inoccent.

Formendacil – Wolf – He never suspectet him.

Holbytlass – wolf – I was sure you were inoccent! I feel so foolish. . .

To sum things up: You guys played great, but the wolfs outsmartet us by doing what no one expectet. I am impressed.

12-13-2005, 06:38 PM	#2
mormegil Maundering Mage Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,651	Wolves, very well played. I never once suspected Holby. I think she makes a great wolf. I believe that this was Formendacil's first time as a wolf and he played wonderfully. I played miserably however. I must say that while Fordim played great as a cobbler I think I did better at that role this game . Everything I did seemed to go wrong and I got rather frustrated and it felt like I was a decendent of Hurin and cursed by Morgoth. Anyway great game all and fun modding Alcarillo. __________________ “I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo. "So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”

12-13-2005, 06:57 PM	#4
mormegil Maundering Mage Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,651	Sauce you have my promise that if I'm ever the seer again with you in a game I won't dream of you the first night okay. I agree with you though, I'm not sure why but always around the middle of the game the scary thought comes to my mind that you are a wolf and I create some crazy theory to fit what you have done no based on fact __________________ “I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo. "So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”

12-13-2005, 07:28 PM	#7
Holbytlass Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Party Tree Posts: 1,042	*Night2* Holby: Man, talk about bad luck! Well, what do you think? I say we kill Gurthang cause he's the seer but that of course is instant death to you. But if he's left alive and when no one else claims to be the seer, you're dead anyway and he's gotten to proclaim another dream. It's up to you how we work it tonight since you're on the hot seat. Formen:OUCH!!!! Bad luck indeed! I've only just read the thread... and boy am I freaked... I think you may be right about killing Gurthang. He's dangerous as all heck. Meanwhile, how would it be if I pretended to be the seer? After all, I was the first one to indict Spawn, and she was definitely a Werewolf... Holby: The only thing is that still leaves Gurthang to proclaim about whomever he dreamt about 'tonight'. I say kill him now, you're dead today or tomorrow. But as I said, I'll follow what you want to do. If you want to leave Gurthang, then who shall we kill tonight? I forgot!! about the ranger, he/she is going to protect gurthang! So we need to go a different route, and get Gurthang tomorrow night (assuming he's the real deal) I suggest Jack- I find him to be annoying (in the game ). I thought we were done for, it would be the shortest game in history. Dancing Spawn got lynched-Gurthang dreamt of Formendacil-and I was paranoid that Jack was the hunter and would take me down. I found jack to be annoying 'cause (now here's where I'm an idiot, didn't think of him being the seer) I thought I fumbled into own of his traps and didn't want to debate my way out the next day so "kill him off". Killed Jack. Night3: Formen:What a great day! Man, talk about lucky! You picked off the Seer, we somehow lucked into a double-innocents lynch, and we're both considered fairly innocent. I've got no idea at the moment who to kill (and after last night I'm more than willing to let you pick if worst comes to worst, although I hope it doesn't), or what strategies (if any, because none seems to have worked well) we ought to employ tomorrow.I'm just pumped about a really good day of slaughter! Holby: Cool!! we need to leave SpM cause that's probably who the ranger has chosen. I think we need to kill Wilwarin. She's suspected by alot of people and this will make the others scramble. Or maybe Kath, she's been the ranger more times than I've been wolf. Whatever we're doing seems to be working so far. Tell me what you think if ya can. Something else, in Wayne's first post he bolds an r-o-d which is ord(inary). Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but do you think he might be bluffing? Also, I was thinking of ways to keep the others guessing and I think our kills should have no rhyme or reason, something like, kill the #1 suspect of whoever got lynched (except us o'course) or kill whoever wrote the 9th post of that day. Something to think about, Formen: I thought a little about Fordim, since he's seen as my alter ego, almost... We've been paired together so much, and he thinks me innocent, so his death would shine nothing bad on ME, but still... Wilwa sounds good... Wayne's death would really confuse them, since he's a distraction as much as anything else. Killed Wilwarin. Night 4: Holby: So far so good, we have 'em confused. I think SpM tonight. I'm fairly confident that the ranger protected him last night and therefore can't tonight. Plus, it will confuse things again. What do ya think? Formen: Confusing them is good... SPM is a good choice, on that score. He hasn't had either of us under scrutiny, not really, so killing him could be very perplexing. On the same score, I'm thinking that Fordhim might be a good kill, especially when one adds in that he didn't post at all on Day 3... However, his secondary fears included me, so it's not really a wise thought, now that I think about it... Holby: I think we need to kill off one of the main loud mouths (Spm/Morm) and leave the secondary louds (Fordim/Boro) in place, they'll start to get more suspicion because they both seem to be holding back esp Boro, at least compared to their usual selves. On a personal note, I want to leave Fordim alive as long as possible while I'm still alive because of the whole "score" thing . We'll all get looked at more closely. The only thing is that if SpM is killed, people might think I (being a wolf) killed him since people are starting to think we're in cahoots then his innocent death will clear me. I'm willing to take that risk, in fact, it would be a good thing I did get lynched now. Not that I'm going to try to on purpose but if it happened then there are still so many villagers left for you to hide among. And a wolf working by themself is far harder to catch. Formen: Okay, your logic works for me... SPM it is... Killed SpM. Night5 Holby: Yea!! The ranger got it and quite fitting a wolf did the chop! Tonight I think either Aiwendil or Kath. Both are good candidates for keeping things confused. What say you, or do you have someone else in mind? I really haven't thought about who might be the cobbler, do you think it might be Fordim? Formen: Your guess is as good as mine regarding the Cobbler... and if so, we want to keep him alive. Seven villagers going into the evening, minus one overnight kill (although that Hunter could screw things up) makes six villagers. With a Cobbler we would hold the balance of power. I actually wouldn't be surprised if Fordhim was the Cobbler. Boromir and Morm are playing their usual game, Kath is hardly around, and Aiwendil is playing the worst game I have ever seen if he is a Cobbler. That leaves Fordhim.It also leaves him alive. I'm inclined to agree with your two picks- and I think that Aiwendil is the better one, simply because you've been gunning for him the whole time. Morm has me a little worried... but I think we can survive this game. My main thought is that he has been trying to get the Gifteds to come out of hiding so he can trap us- which would make him the Hunter. Because who other than the Hunter would know if someone was lying?Just a thought... Holby: It's getting down to the wire and I'm not so confident tonight... Fordim-possible cobbler, leave alive Morm-possible hunter, leave alive Kath-seen most suspicious;kill-starting to be a pattern, would rather leave alive Aiwendil-seen innocent;kill-definitely confuse things,might be good bluff for me Boromir-in a way, been under the radar for the village and the wolves; could confuse things cause he'd almost be a safe kill and that's not what we've been doing. possible hunter also. Aiwendil or Boromir-village on the whole see both fairly innocent. Aiwen would be good bluff kill for me. Boro would change the kill pattern for us, that would keep things confused. Thoughts now? Formen: I bet you that Morm is going to take me down if he's the hunter... As for Boromir/Aiwendil, I'd rather see Aiwendil gone, because he's been Morm's ready accomplice- and I'd just as soon not see that. Boromir is more ready to dispute with Morm... and so a better one to leave alive. Otherwise, I agree with your assessment, and think either is good. Killed Aiwendil. ~~~~~~~~~~ This was real fun. I'm sorry our sister wolf, Dancing Spawn, got killed right away, what happened? Glad for the chance to work with Formendacil. Alcarillo, great job modding!! Always a pleasure to be rubbing cyber shoulders with you all. __________________ Holby is an actual flesh-and-blood person, right? Not, say a sock-puppet of Nilp’s, by any chance? ~Nerwen, WWCIII

12-13-2005, 06:20 PM	#1
Alcarillo Shadow of the Past Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Minas Mor-go Posts: 1,007	NIGHT 1 Seer – The Saucepan Man DAY 1 Hunter – Dancing Spawn NIGHT 2 Seer – Boro Ranger - Aiwendil Hunter - Wilwa DAY 2 Hunter - Fordim NIGHT 3 Ranger – The Saucepan Man Hunter – Wilwa DAY 3 Hunter - Kath NIGHT 4 Ranger – Formendacil Hunter – Lhuna DAY 4 Hunter – Kath? (I'm not sure. Aiwendil, do you remember?) NIGHT 5 Hunter - Mormegil

12-13-2005, 06:46 PM	#3
Aiwendil Late Istar Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 2,224	Well done, Formendacil and Holbytlass - and Spawn, whose death protected Formendacil for the rest of the game! Apologies to my fellow villagers for dooming us last night - I was utterly convinced that Mormegil was a Wolf, after he voted for Lhuna. Anyway, 'twas tremendous fun. I look forward to playing again. Edit: Yes, it was Kath I hunted on DAY 4 - mainly because I thought she'd be lynched, and I wanted to have my options open that NIGHT - not that it would have done much good.

12-14-2005, 01:11 AM	#9
Lhunardawen Hauntress of the Havens Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IN it, but not OF it Posts: 2,538	Twice a werewolf? You apparently learn from your mistakes. I hate you, Formendacil. And Holby? Geesh, I never even considered her. Sorry for that case, mormegil. I have to admit, though, that I would have done that in the phantom's game if I haven't been killed by Formendacil! Perhaps it's because you've been playing in every single game I played. This is funnily pathetic, but while reading Alcarillo's death post for me, I was almost in tears! Pity for myself and the village, perhaps. One last thing for this time: Why in the world were you suspecting me???