Tol-in-Gaurhoth XV-The Villagers Strike Back!

[mormegil]

I would like to do a chronological list as it may shed light on our situation.

Formendacil votes Glirdan (Glirdan 1)
Mithalwen votes SpM (Glirdan 1, SpM 1)
Nonnacedak votes Meneltarmacil (Glirdan 1, SpM 1, Menel 1)
Mormegil votes Glirdan (Glirdan 2, Spm 1 Menel 1)
Wayne votes Glirdan (Glirdan 3, SpM 1, Menel 1)
Meneltarmacil votes Glirdan (Glirdan 4, SpM 1 Menel 1)
Gurthang votes Rune (Glirdan 4, SpM 1, Menel 1, Rune 1)
Oddwen votes Glirdan (Glirdan 5, SpM 1, Menel 1, Rune 1)
Kitanna votes Nonnacedak (Glirdan 5, Nonna 1, SpM 1, Menel 1, Rune 1)
Farael votes Glirdan (Glirdan 6, Nonna 1, SpM 1, Menel 1, Rune 1)
Lhunadarwen votes Wayne (Glirdan 6, Nonna 1, SpM 1, Menel 1, Rune 1, Wayne 1)
Rune votes Wayne (Glirdan 6, Nonna 1, SpM 1, Menel 1, Rune 1, Wayne 2)
SpM votes Nonnacedak (Glirdan 6, Nonna 2, SpM 1, Menel 1, Rune 1, Wayne 2)
Spawn votes Nonnacedak (Glirdan 6, Nonna 3, SpM 1, Menel 1, Rune 1, Wayne 2)
Boromir votes Nonnacedak (Glirdan 6, Nonna 4, SpM 1, Menel 1, Rune 1, Wayne 2)
Eomer votes Mormegil (Glirdan 6, Nonna 4, SpM 1, Menel 1, Rune 1, Wayne 2, Mormegil 1)

My earlier accusations were before much analysis and this can shed some light on things.

Menel's vote which was 3rd for Glirdan could be an attempt to give a lead to somebody else and saving himself, but he did voice some suspicion of him early on.

Gurthang's vote for Rune raises an eyebrow and really doesn't give a good explination at all here. If you don't have anything wrong with bandwagoning why not join? Instead he goes for a safe vote of Rune, whom nobody suspected so there is little chance of him being devoured that night.

Oddwen and Farael essentially lock up Glirdan's death but since I found him odd and suspicious I can understand their vote.

I do find the block of three votes for Nonna odd from SpM Spawn and Boromir.

Also Eomer's vote for me was interesting.

[Boromir88]

I do find the block of three votes for Nonna odd from SpM Spawn and Boromir.

Funny that you think that but don't find these 3 block votes for Glirdan (who is now a proven wolf) "odd":

Mormegil votes Glirdan (Glirdan 2, Spm 1 Menel 1)
Wayne votes Glirdan (Glirdan 3, SpM 1, Menel 1)
Meneltarmacil votes Glirdan (Glirdan 4, SpM 1 Menel 1)

It's highly unlikely that all three of you are the heroes, but certainly I would put my life on it and say one of you are.

[mormegil]

Notice Mr. Exorcist, whatever good you have done, I did mention Menel as suspicious. I don't find Wayne suspicious due to his vote mainly because he's Wayne and not a lot of analysis goes on in that head there. So Menel was an odd vote and I noted it.

Menel's vote which was 3rd for Glirdan could be an attempt to give a lead to somebody else and saving himself, but he did voice some suspicion of him early on.

and I don't note myself well because you nitwit I'm a wolf and I know it!

Now on to you.

for some unexplained reason I'm at the top of his list? Seems like you want me dead for some reason morm?

I believe I gave my reasons earlier and if I wanted you dead you would be you foul smelling puke guts.

[Kath]

Does anyone else find a little odd that morm seems to have dropped the whole 'Nonna is practically a proven innocent' idea without so much as a word?

Changed your mind morm, or worried you might have let too much slip there?

[Farael]

It is hard to say, my hairy friends, who among us is a liar and a bloody elf. Last night I called Boromir Huan yet Saucepanman ended up being him. Even worse, I voted for our butcher and he was just an innocent (albeit quite dumb) wolf. I must admit his flesh was rather tasty, specially when compared with that orc meat he would give us, but that devouring should have waited until the elves are all gone.

For the time being, I shall forgive Boromir and his discriminating act against me for not being a werewolf. I wonder what he thinks of our warg friend over there, but I hope he shall understand that I'm a man and not an elf. And that I hate elves just as much as he does, murderers of their own friends as we have seen tonight.

Gurthang says that there ought to be a wolf in the three groups of people he divides us on. Those of us who voted Glirdan, those who voted Nonnacedak and those who voted anyone else. Well, I must say I disagree. Glirdan was acting VERY suspiciously so I would believe that the wolves, knowing he was not one of them, would want him alive. I don't think Nonnacedak did anything wrong but having odd eating habbits yet she was the runner up on the voting. Four people voted for her and I risk to say that two of those are wolves. We know who Huan was and so that leaves two out of three.

My fanged friends, we cannot go wrong! I say we pick one of those three before this night is over and we shal rid ourselves of one of those heroes!! let's teach them who rules this town while the moon is on the skies.

[Farael]

cross posted with Meneltarmacil

He brings up an interesting idea, but I stick by mine... I still think we have two heroes on one bandwagon.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Boromir, I should point out that the whole 'Warg' debate goes back before any activity on this here island. I think it's only fair to point that out.

Mormegil is getting in quite a tangle and he seems set on making as many enemies as possible. Another Glirdan, perhaps?

Mithalwen, I doubt the killing of SpM was an attempt to frame you (though one does tend to place oneself at the centre of the policies of others). Had SpM survived to this, I imagine the two of you 'loudmouths' would have torn each other apart. It would have been delightful for the Elves. Why would they go and ruin that scenario? As things stand I feel that you, the Alpha Female, stand at the top of the village. Let's face it: everyone wants to trust you. You are big and important and — most importantly — rational and clear. Unlike some others hanging around this island. Like I say, I want to trust you...

Want to know who I suspect? Kitanna. An experienced 'wolf' who knows that keeping quiet is the smart thing to do. That also goes for Kath and dancing spawn who have been only slightly more vocal.

[Mithalwen]

Funnily enough I want to trust you too..... Eomer. Unfortunately while I know you can trust me ......

I did not intend a vendetta against SpM. I respect his intelligence greatly. I think he is without doubt one of the cleverest people I have ever encountered. I only suspected him because he wasn't up to par. As has been pointed out, Huan on night one knows nothing more than the wolves. I think that is why he was inconsistent because he didn't know who he was helping. That is why it makes more sense knwing he was Huan. If he had been a hero and knew who was who I think he would have been more polished. Anyway this is a digression. Fact is whether by luck or judgement my vote was a good one.

I can be rational and I can be very instinctive. Sometimes I don't know which way to go.....and that is my problem tonight.

[Mithalwen]

I have just realised how I confused poor little Glirdan. I said I suspected Morm for voting first when I meant to say posting first.

I am not much clearer now on my suspects. I still suspect Mormegil though he has backed off from snarling at me. This could be because he is a true wolf who has realised the error of his ways and truly feels that I have earned my stripes or it could be because I have earned my stripes it would be it would be stupid to attack me.......

Yesterday I felt Eomer was a wolf despite being a warg... but if Mormegil were a hero their exchanges might be a clever bluff to ensure one of them survived a while.

Wayne ...... oh so random that one doesn't know what to think. I want to kill a hero but he has contributed little but confusion so far.

Kath I am inclined to think is a true wolf becasue of her eminently sensible comments. The non-vote is a concern but not sufficiently so to change my mind just now.

Oddwen - her posts have made me laugh but I must try and look past them just in case she is cleverly flying under radar..

Feel uncertain about Gurth, Formen and Boromir - maybe irrationally, just because I have observed their cunning in other skirmishes and .... well I don't know I just keep changing my mind.

I have not yet been able quite to fathom why Nonna attracted so many votes... will have another look.

I won't be able to stay much longer now but I will be able to vote tomorrow - I really don't know at this stage.

[mormegil]

Originally Posted by Kath

Does anyone else find a little odd that morm seems to have dropped the whole 'Nonna is practically a proven innocent' idea without so much as a word?

Changed your mind morm, or worried you might have let too much slip there?

A bit pedandic are we? Merely because I didn't mention him in my last post she jumps on me. However in the penultimate (not counting this post) I mentioned him here

I do find the block of three votes for Nonna odd from SpM Spawn and Boromir.

And yes I do think Nonna is innocent, so what? I find those who voted for him as suspicious. There are others I think innocent yet didn't get votes so I haven't brought it up. I find it interesting that you can't seem to drop the idea. So although I give this response to you I have little hope of you changing that obtuse mind of yours.

[mormegil]

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

I still suspect Mormegil though he has backed off from snarling at me. This could be because he is a true wolf who has realised the error of his ways and truly feels that I have earned my stripes or it could be because I have earned my stripes it would be it would be stupid to attack me.......

Remember that you are Alpha and my comment was to Kitanna the beta wolf.

OOC: Please remember that none of what I say is meant to be truly offensive to anybody

[Mithalwen]

Originally Posted by mormegil

Remember that you are Alpha and my comment was to Kitanna the beta wolf.

OOC: Please remember that none of what I say is meant to be truly offensive to anybody

Ah but yesterday you were threatened me about learning my place when I questioned you and I was pleasantly surprised to survive the night....... so my fears are hardly allayed

[Formendacil]

Lots of noise floating around the village, but very little that strikes me as being proof, but simply more of the same directed, if half-pointless, noise that is usually generated by Night1.

Boromir88 also seems to be innocent, playing a more or less typical game. However, after two games of playing in character all game (and being innocent) he has dropped it in this game (perhaps because of EVERYBODY's Night1 RPing). It could mean he's now the enemy, or it could mean that he's simply dropped it.

Eomer seems to be innocent. He's playing a more light-hearted, casual game than usual. Not that I REALLY know his style, but he seems to be more intense as an enemy than as an innocent.

Gurthang is playing a much more cautious game than previously, which could mean a more serious role (ie. Hero or Gifted) or it could be a lesson learned.

Lhuna, as usual, appears in an odd timezone, and is thus spared the cross-examination that the rest of us have to endure. Her game seems quite normal as well, but since her normal game is suspicious (although innocent), that really doesn't say much.

Morm seems snappier than usual- and more defensive. I'm inclined to think that this is more due to the greater number of attacks on him so early in the game, but it might mean that he's the enemy...

As regards the rest of the village, although I've played with several of them, I'm unfamiliar with their styles, so I will refrain from any comments based on those. I toss these out into the village for whatever value they may have.

[Boromir88]

And yes I do think Nonna is innocent, so what?~mormegil

Well depends on how you would define innocent. Do you mean innocent as in he's an innocent wolf, or innocent as in he's an innocent elf-buddy of yours?

Want to know who I suspect? Kitanna. An experienced 'wolf' who knows that keeping quiet is the smart thing to do. That also goes for Kath and dancing spawn who have been only slightly more vocal.~Eomer

I happen to agree with this, of all the nonsense Menel spews I do happen to agree with him that it's reasonable to assume a hero may be amongst those who voted for Nonna (whether Nonna is innocent or not). My reason for saying tha that Menel was wrong, is because he makes it seem as if my vote for Nonna was a bandwagon. When I point out the first suspicions against him, and make it pretty clear than unless someone admits they are a hero I'll be voting for Nonna (all of which were long before Kitanna's first vote for him). So, if anyone was a bandwagoning hero against Nonna, it would be Kitanna, Sauce (though he's dead now), or Spawn.

So, I think Kitanna or Spawn are possibly heroes, but I really see yet a strong reason to suspect them. I'm interested in the group that voted for Glirdan, because mathematically there's a hero in there, and also there was a big bandwagon for him in the beginning. While I think a few of them were misled wolves who believed the rhetoric against Glirdan, I would put my life on the line and say ONE hero voted for Glirdan, and that's where I'm concentrating right now.

Mith gets me worried, as no one really is suspecting her (which always worries me), but with the Saucepan thing yesterday, I think she brought up valid points that he made uncharacteristic mistakes for being The Pan Man and something wasn't right with him. (Which happened to be the case). And for that, I think Mith to be one of the more innocent looking ones of this pack.

[Boromir88]

Oh, and my apologies to Farael for mistaking the gender...you know how it goes, male-wolves, woman-wolves look the same to me. But seriously though, my apologies.

[Mithalwen]

Boromir. I think your always comment is unfounded. Our shared skirmishing history is too brief to base that judgement on. The reason I am not a prime suspect is, I would have thought obvious. On night one I offered rational analysis and independent thought and I am the only person to have voted for a known "wrong un".

I cannot prove that I am a true wolf but, attempting to look objectively at the situation at this point, I think it would be peverse to suspect me particularly.