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Telchar · 12-23-2005, 05:38 AM

Besides the obvious Finrod Felagund, and later Thingol, the list has to contain Dior Thingols Heir - and probably also Orodreth who ruled Nargothrond, though he is reffered to as "lord of Nargothrond" and not king ...

This is actually an interesting question... because it (to me) raises other questions...

What happend to the Nauglamir? Was the Silmaril ever seperated from the Nauglamír? Could we count Eärendil to the list above? He was lord of the people that survived the fall of Gondolin and the Sack of Doriath, and he chose to be counted among the elves... But I can find no reference to the Nauglamir at the Mouth of Sirion or being with Eärendil later - It is said that he bore the Silmaril on his brow - The Nauglamír is not a thing one would wear on ones brow is it? So maybe the Nauglamír never left Doriath - only the Silmaril?

These were my thoughts

Rune Son of Bjarne · 12-23-2005, 05:56 AM

I can do nothing, but hand the thread over to you.

With out turning this into a discution I would like to say: I think the Nauglamir left ME with the silmaril, We know that the silmaril was meant to bee worn around the neck(when it was a part of the Nauglamir), but the first time ever we hear of it beeing used otherwise (the silmaril) is when Earendil where it on his brows. Sureley if they had been seperatet and worn as to different pieces Tolkien would have written about it and It would not have been such a big deal that Earendil choses to wear it like that.

Gothmog · 12-23-2005, 08:00 AM

Oh yeah, I forgot Dior but I left Orodreth out on purpose. I didn't consider him a king, even if he was a ruler for some time. He was like the Stewards of Gondor... Sorry for this off-topic post, please proceed like nothing ever happened

NightKnight · 12-25-2005, 05:52 PM

Adding to the off topic discussion, I somehow recall reading Elwing having the necklace. Though i might be way off though.

Telchar · 12-27-2005, 04:59 AM

Which elf feared to be stricken in the darkness?

NightKnight · 12-28-2005, 04:58 PM

Was it Finrod?

Telchar · 12-29-2005, 01:37 AM

Nope...

12-23-2005, 05:38 AM	#1
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	Besides the obvious Finrod Felagund, and later Thingol, the list has to contain Dior Thingols Heir - and probably also Orodreth who ruled Nargothrond, though he is reffered to as "lord of Nargothrond" and not king ... This is actually an interesting question... because it (to me) raises other questions... What happend to the Nauglamir? Was the Silmaril ever seperated from the Nauglamír? Could we count Eärendil to the list above? He was lord of the people that survived the fall of Gondolin and the Sack of Doriath, and he chose to be counted among the elves... But I can find no reference to the Nauglamir at the Mouth of Sirion or being with Eärendil later - It is said that he bore the Silmaril on his brow - The Nauglamír is not a thing one would wear on ones brow is it? So maybe the Nauglamír never left Doriath - only the Silmaril? These were my thoughts __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

12-23-2005, 08:00 AM	#3
Gothmog Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Where I lay my head is home Posts: 421	Oh yeah, I forgot Dior but I left Orodreth out on purpose. I didn't consider him a king, even if he was a ruler for some time. He was like the Stewards of Gondor... Sorry for this off-topic post, please proceed like nothing ever happened __________________ Three switched witches watch three Swatch watch switches. Which switched witch watch which Swatch watch switch? He who breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom ~Lurker...

12-25-2005, 05:52 PM	#4
NightKnight Lost among the Stars Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hiding in Childhood (Sweden) Posts: 2,690	Adding to the off topic discussion, I somehow recall reading Elwing having the necklace. Though i might be way off though. __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't.

12-27-2005, 04:59 AM	#5
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	Which elf feared to be stricken in the darkness? __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

12-28-2005, 04:58 PM	#6
NightKnight Lost among the Stars Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hiding in Childhood (Sweden) Posts: 2,690	Was it Finrod? __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't.

12-29-2005, 01:37 AM	#7
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	Nope... __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.