The Hobbit Survivor

[Lalaith]

Welcome on board, spawn.
Beorn is one of my favourites, but I'll defend him later. For now, Elrond is the one in danger...Morm, you're not being entirely fair...aren't we supposed to be voting for these people purely within the context of their characters in the Hobbit? All the stuff about safe havens, that's not in the Hobbit, I don't think...there, he is kind, hospitable and helpful. He seems to take a pretty ecumenical, inclusive approach, too - all travellers welcome, regardless of ethnic origin.

[Tuor in Gondolin]

" What's next, are you
perhaps planning to have an All-Stars Survivor - or a BDer Survivor (Eru forbid)?"
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Spawn, a Second Age Survivor might be interesting.
Picture a final featuring the dysfunctional
couple: Erendis vs. Aladarion (with Sauron
as the impartial arbiter).

[Kuruharan]

He is rude. A reliable and comprehensive poll of two people clearly shows that Beorn is a nasty character with hardly any manners at all.

Exactly. That is what makes for such compelling television!! People want to watch impossible personalities fumble and bumble about in a pit of social awkwardness.

Well, even if he is a vegetarian

He has that whole counter-culture thing going on. The viewers love this...or at least the producers love this.

He is possessive.

An excellent catalyst for conflict!! Why else would people watch? They want to see a two-hour train wreck.

I'm voting for Beorn because he's impossible.

That is exactly why he should stay around. The island needs its cross-grained, cussed ole' varmints.

Anguirel I'm surprised at you. A savvy operator like yourself attempting to vote off one of the most colorful characters. Tsk.

[dancing spawn of ungoliant]

Originally Posted by Kuruharan

Exactly. That is what makes for such compelling television!! People want to watch impossible personalities fumble and bumble about in a pit of social awkwardness.

He has that whole counter-culture thing going on. The viewers love this...or at least the producers love this.

An excellent catalyst for conflict!! Why else would people watch? They want to see a two-hour train wreck.

They do? Interesting... Well, you are thinking more of the producers and viewers and I'm thinking the best of Beorn's tribe. Besides, if he drives his fellow contestants crazy, it's going to get really nasty afterwards with all the claims for damages, lawsuits and such. But what's more important, I think, is that such a rude, lazy and possessive person as Beorn does not deserve to be crowned to the winner of The Hobbit Survivor, so we might as well get rid of him now.

Anguirel I'm surprised at you. A savvy operator like yourself attempting to vote off one of the most colorful characters. Tsk.

If this is all about keeping the colourful and controversial people around, how come you have voted off such characters as Gandalf, Bilbo and Gollum, just to name a few? According to your theory about what people want to see, I'm sure that one uncloaking chap, schizophrenic hermit and a burrahobbit who gets himself constantly into big trouble would attract as many viewers as, I don't know- Super Bowl, so why are you so keen to keep this one particular bloke around? Perhaps you've made a deal to share the prize money if he wins... Ooh, even Middle-earth isn't safe from corruption!


ps. Thanks for the welcome!
pps.

[Kuruharan]

Well, you are thinking more of the producers and viewers and I'm thinking the best of Beorn's tribe.

Beorn's tribe is not paying the bills. The advertisers are paying the bills. The advertisers want conflict and drama because they have numbers that show that is what people want to watch. I mean, who watches to see serenity? How boring. The producers want what the advertisers want.

Besides, if he drives his fellow contestants crazy, it's going to get really nasty afterwards with all the claims for damages, lawsuits and such.

To quote the producers, "OUR NEXT SHOW!!! OUR MEAL TICKET HAS BEEN PUNCHED!!! BAWH-HAWH-HAWH-HAWH-HAWH!!!"

But what's more important, I think, is that such a rude, lazy and possessive person as Beorn does not deserve to be crowned to the winner of The Hobbit Survivor, so we might as well get rid of him now.

What's deserving got to do with it? This show is about ratings and remorseless vendettas (mostly the vendettas).

Gandalf, Bilbo

I didn't vote them off.

Gollum

He had this disgusting cough that was grossing out the viewers and the producers were afraid he was contagious. Who'd want to watch a show full of invalids?

Ooh, even Middle-earth isn't safe from corruption!

Only somebody who failed to take a charitable view of human, elven, dwarven, hobbiten, orcish, eagleish, spideren, and enten natures would say something like that. How could you?!!

[dancing spawn of ungoliant]

Originally Posted by Kuruharan

Beorn's tribe is not paying the bills. The advertisers are paying the bills. The advertisers want conflict and drama because they have numbers that show that is what people want to watch. I mean, who watches to see serenity? How boring. The producers want what the advertisers want.

To quote the producers, "OUR NEXT SHOW!!! OUR MEAL TICKET HAS BEEN PUNCHED!!! BAWH-HAWH-HAWH-HAWH-HAWH!!!"

Oh, the good old times, when people cared about something else, too, than just about money.

What's deserving got to do with it? This show is about ratings and remorseless vendettas (mostly the vendettas).

Deserving has got a lot to do with it, my good Dwarf. The viewers pick their favourite contestants and root for them. They choose characters who are sympathetic and whom they can relate to on some level; they choose characters who deserve to win. Girion isn't one of these sympathetic characters, so he's not a bad choice, but neither is Beorn. If we vote off the viewers' favourites and leave just a bunch of their least favourites to compete for victory, people will lose their interest because they don't care anymore, who will win.

I didn't vote them off.

But they are now gone, nonetheless, and judging by what I've heard, the show still has as many viewers as ever. Getting rid of controversial charachters doesn't necessarily affect the popularity of a show.

He had this disgusting cough that was grossing out the viewers and the producers were afraid he was contagious. Who'd want to watch a show full of invalids?

Quite a few, apparently, since ER is still rolling...

Only somebody who failed to take a charitable view of human, elven, dwarven, hobbiten, orcish, eagleish, spideren, and enten natures would say something like that. How could you?!!

Now, now, let's not take this to a personal level... I'm just making observations.

Originally Posted by Celuien

Additionally, his name can be rearranged to spell No, I rig. Clearly, he was involved in rigging something and was proud of his nefarious activity. His honor is therefore called into question by this discovery and he doesn't deserve to win the contest.

If we start voting people off based on anagrams, what do you say about Beorn, then? Beorn = No reb (reb = master). It's quite clear that if someone doesn't deserve to win, it's Beorn. Even his name's anagram means a loser...

[Lalaith]

Ok, when Girion goes, who gets the emeralds?

[Formendacil]

Originally Posted by Tuor in Gondolin

" What's next, are you
perhaps planning to have an All-Stars Survivor - or a BDer Survivor (Eru forbid)?"
=================

Spawn, a Second Age Survivor might be interesting.
Picture a final featuring the dysfunctional
couple: Erendis vs. Aladarion (with Sauron
as the impartial arbiter).

I already have dibs on the next show: Survivor: Second Age, featuring a somewhat trimmed down cast, and aimed at the 20ish yearolds Barrow-Downs Death Set.

But we are getting ahead of ourselves. We have Elves to kill!

I mean.... wait...

We've got....

Umm... a fun show to make.

Yeah.

Now, I like to vote strategically... I wait for a couple votes to crop up and show me who the big candidates are each day. And today I'm seeing Elrond, Galion, and Beorn.

Of the three, I really think we should get rid of the dead guy. I mean, really, the only reason that he doesn't stink too badly is that he was charred to a crisp by Smaug. Still, a blackened pile of bones is rather unattractive, and it's driving the rating up. Little kids get scared of charred dead guys.

++ Girion

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Formendacil makes sense. So:

- - Tom

+ + Girion

P. S. For Survivor Second Age don't forget Ancalime (like mother
like daughter).

[Anguirel]

I suppose the Beorn cause is lost...

--BEORN, ++GIRION

[Elu Ancalime]

Well......for now Ive decided i will-

--Elrond

-because the instigation of Beorn and Girion had turned me astray.

BUT

I have yet to be persauded otherwise to vote for/against another......

I am a free vote waiting to be convinced.
Show me what you got.
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Herbal Shop

[Celuien]

++GIRION

As Formendacil said, he's a charred dead guy and as such is scaring the children.

Additionally, his name can be rearranged to spell No, I rig. Clearly, he was involved in rigging something and was proud of his nefarious activity. His honor is therefore called into question by this discovery and he doesn't deserve to win the contest.

[Elu Ancalime]

WELL THEN............Girion. Girion. Girion!

++Girion!++
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