The Hobbit Survivor

[Holbytlass]

Appearantly, there are two versions to the episode of Dori's "winnings", mine and Kuruharan's. I ask those who have voted or have yet to vote to settle this debate. Who saw clearly?

If you feel Kuru is correct vote (or change vote) to The ElvenKing.

If you know Holby is correct then vote (or change vote) to Dori.

Thank you for any considerations.

[Celuien]

Originally Posted by Holbytlass

If you know Holby is correct then vote (or change vote) to Dori.

++DORI

'Nuff said.

[Anguirel]

"And out of Gondolin came Celuien with ten thousand doughty warriors..."

I'm pretty relieved. Though we need still more anti-Dorians.

[Tuor in Gondolin]

+ + Dori
There are still too many dwarves.

[dancing spawn of ungoliant]

Originally Posted by Anguirel

Vote Balin today, Lady Spawnowen, and I'll happily vote Beorn tomorrow...

Originally Posted by Kuruharan

Don't pay any attention to him m'lady. Vote the Elvenking today and I'll happily vote Beorn tomorrow.

Now, this is interesting, both gentlemen offering a deal? What's this all about, I wonder. My vote has barely any meaning since I cast it for someone who's not probably going to get other votes and one vote more or less for some more popular candidate isn't much.

Well, Anguirel has now changed his own vote so I doubt his offer holds anymore.

Originally Posted by Kuruharan

"Why in the world should I do that?" you ask.

No, I trust your word. Actually, I'm not as curious about that as I'm interested to hear, why in the world you should do that. Why are you suddenly willing to help me with my Beorn campaign? Perhaps you are counting on the fact that tomorrow might be too early for getting enough votes for Beorn and he won't be voted off whereas a vote for Elvenking today would improve your chances of getting rid of him now.

I shall consider your offer, but at this point, I won't change my vote.

[Kuruharan]

why in the world you should do that. Why are you suddenly willing to help me with my Beorn campaign? Perhaps you are counting on the fact that tomorrow might be too early for getting enough votes for Beorn and he won't be voted off whereas a vote for Elvenking today would improve your chances of getting rid of him now.

Why does everyone always have the worst opinion of my motives?

Somewhere up there the Capitalist Exploiter said something about it being good to be polite and helpful. That is part of it. The other part of it is that Beorn does have to go sooner or later. We may as well help each other if we are able to and our interests run together for a bit.

[dancing spawn of ungoliant]

Originally Posted by Kuruharan

Why does everyone always have the worst opinion of my motives?

Somewhere up there the Capitalist Exploiter said something about it being good to be polite and helpful. That is part of it. The other part of it is that Beorn does have to go sooner or later. We may as well help each other if we are able to and our interests run together for a bit.

No, there's nothing bad in being polite and helpful, but if you aren't really interested in getting rid of Beorn, I don't see much point in your offer. However, if you say that you actually want to get him voted off, then I say it's a whole different thing. Apologies for questioning your motives, Sir.

[Anguirel]

I have more Beorn-voting credentials. I voted for him several times even before the charming arachnid arrived on the scene...

EDIT: Here be the proof

Originally Posted by Anguirel

Offer gladly accepted morm; I'm no fan of Beorn, an uncouth lump in the Sam mould...

--DWALIN, ++BEORN

Beorn is an obnoxious, violent, hooligan with an antitolerant attitude.

He's a vegetarian.

He runs a vegan farm looked after by talking animals.

I imagine he has an irritating Hagrid-like yeaarrrgh voice.

A mere furrier! Do away with the insufferable Middle-earth Dr Dolittle!

--ROAC, ++BEORN

Two votes for Beorn, and there's another somewhere...enough vitriol to buy a vote for Dori?

[Kuruharan]

but if you aren't really interested in getting rid of Beorn, I don't see much point in your offer. However, if you say that you actually want to get him voted off, then I say it's a whole different thing.

A fair question, m'lady. However, if I gave my word I'd do my best to get rid of him whether I "wanted" him to go or not. I've already made the offer, so my part of the deal is already done. If you accept, that will be that.

However, as for "wanting" him to go...I don't want him to win the competition. That is as much motive as I have ever had for voting against anybody. So, looked at from that perspective, I want him to lose just as much as I've wanted anybody else I've voted for to leave.

Apologies for questioning your motives, Sir.

You are gracious as always, m'lady.

And...I'm sure you have noted, the Capitalist Exploiter is not exactly dependable in his thinking or his voting, which rather resembling a weather vane furiously spinning about with each new gust of wind. I'm much more consistent.

[Anguirel]

My offer now merely replaces "Balin" with "Dori"...