Tol-in-Gaurhoth XVI: No man is an Island

[Naria]

Ooops, sorry 'bout the bolding.

[malkatoj]

Those Who Have Never Voted for a Wolf
Meneltarmacil, Cailín, Lhunardawen, Amanaduial, Naria, malkatoj

Rune, Rune, Rune. Not voting for a wolf makes me one? If that's the case, we've got ourselves 6 werewolves here and we already know that one's dead. If my absences add to it, then I guess I've learned not to play during finals week.

All around a very sneeky person. What reson do we have to keep her in the village?

I still think her vote for Nilp is suspisios. . .

Sneaky? Okay, this is perhaps an acceptable excuse on Day 1 when we have no evidence, but you really shouldn't be going on against someone this late in the day because you think they're 'sneaky.' What reason do you have to keep me? I think this is entirely the wrong question to be asking here. We don't want to go killing off people because we have no reason to keep them, we want to kill people off because we have sufficient reason to believe they're wolves. Your reasons are not sufficient. My vote for Nilp, suspicious? Why, pray tell? If you haven't noticed, this is my first time playing in one of the 'big-kid' games (played a Junior game once) and I had no way of knowing that he has that crazy tendency to act suicidal. I wasn't the only one voting for him, either, why are the others not suspicious?


Okay, on to my own thoughts. At this point, we have reason to suspect just about everyone (well, okay, not the known innocents, but mostly everyone else) and if we look hard enough, we'll find suspicion everywhere. Paranoia creates itself and we're all falling into the trap. However, the cases against both Meneltarmacil (as posted by our wonderful seer, Lhuna) and Amanaduial (as posted by Kuruharan and others) are very strong and one of them will likely get my vote unless someone does something that screams 'I'm a wolf!' Before I cast my vote, however, I'd like to see what some others have to say for themselves. I shall return fairly shortly.

[Meneltarmacil]

My, my, my, aren't we suspicious of people? *heh heh*

I assure you, I am no wolf. I don't think I would have said that Lhunardawen and Gurthang were my primary suspects if I were really trying to cover my tracks. (Yes, I know, that's just what a wolf would say to keep himself alive).

However, I had not yet expressed any suspicion of Gurthang at that point. It really does not make any sense for a wolf to come out and say that he suspected a known innocent if he had not said anything about that innocent before.

Of course, for all you know, all of my statements could be elaborate bluffs coming from a clever wolf. If you want to lynch me, it won't be that bad for the village, as I am an Ordinary Villager and in no way Gifted.

Aman did look a little suspicious in some of her posts earlier, and I find myself in agreement with the arguments against her. I will review her posts myself before making up my mind, though.

[Farael]

See Amanduial, I know being under suspicion from someone as vocal as Kuruharan can be stressing and I will be the first to say, I've made a few bad choices. Namely, voting for TGWBS and Nilp, although I stick by my choice both times. At the time I thought it was the best vote I could take and I alone did not seal their "destiny" so I can see that more people agreed with me (and more than the two werewolves)

Now, Why am I saying this? I believe I wrote on my post that I was on a hurry and did not know if I'd be able to post again before the deadline... and let's face it, Kuruharan did make a good case against you. I had nothing better to go on with, it was six ten AM and I had fifteen minutes to get ready and take the bus... sorry if I could not write a dissertation over my post. Still, as my vote was I believe the first against you, it would not make a difference if not many people think you innocent.

I've also grown a little weary of Kuruharan's style but for the time being he has managed to make better cases against other people than what others have been able to make against him. As simple as that.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Originally Posted by Malkatoj

Not voting for a wolf makes me one

Of cours not, but you cannot claim that it makes one seem more innocent either.

Sneaky? Okay, this is perhaps an acceptable excuse on Day 1 when we have no evidence, but you really shouldn't be going on against someone this late in the day because you think they're 'sneaky.

Well we must agree to disagree on this point. I see it as a great reason, if not wolves can just chose to be more or less abcent and not get votet for.

My vote for Nilp, suspicious? Why, pray tell? If you haven't noticed, this is my first time playing in one of the 'big-kid' games (played a Junior game once) and I had no way of knowing that he has that crazy tendency to act suicidal. I wasn't the only one voting for him, either, why are the others not suspicious?

I know you only played in a wwj before, I was there remember!? Your vote was suspicous because it was you who made it a bandwaggon.

At last let me say that I am glad to se a response from you, this will give me (and others) something to judge you by.

Why do you think I votet for Gil ? It was because I thought it was wrong to vote Nilp, the only reason I votet for him and not you at that point was him being the more expirienced player.

You may say that my case against you is weak, but the matter of fact is that we really now nothing about you and therefor we run a great risk by having you in the village.

[Kuruharan]

seem actually slightly reminiscent of Garin's behaviour earlier in the game

The same Garin you defended fang and claw? Oh yes, I remember him.

he made strong suggestions as to exactly who the Seer should dream of and the Ranger should protect, strongly urging the villagers to act one way or the other...

Tsk...such falsehood. Go back over my posts. I never made the slightest suggestion about who the Seer should dream about or who the Ranger should protect. (I did offer a possibility today of a circumstance where I thought the Hunter might want to make a particular suggestion).

Kuru makes definitive statements about people that seem to come from a certain knowledge about them.

When one reviews the evidence, it is hard to avoid coming to conclusions about certain people.

I was actually contradicting Cailin's post prior to that in which she stated Naria to be the Hunter and a known innocent.

I wasn't denying that. However, at the same time you were contradicting yourself.

I didn't see the point

What do you mean you didn't see the point? If you are innocent what could possibly be gained by your hiding something like that?

[malkatoj]

In an attempt to not fail high school, I'm going to have to vote now so as to get myself off the computer.

Menel, your defense is not as strong as the evidence against you. I apologize if I'm wrong, but you definitely act like a wolf. Your defenses are too much based on how you are, and I, not knowing you, can't be sure that you're telling the truth. Therefore,

++MENELTARMACIL

[Cailín]

Such silence today! I know I am to blame as well, but I just got home.

I see suspicions are rising and I must admit, I am clueless as to what to do next. Lynching a wolf today seems crucial because of Lhuna's position and I wish we could allow her one good final dream. I'm also noticing something else.

Though Meneltarmacil, Malkatoj and others are suspicious as well, especially Menel, I would say that we have two large cases here against Kuruharan and Amanaduial. I am inclined to believe Kuru over Amanaduial, but I might be seriously manipulated or something. I'm not really the sharpest this game anyway. However, I detect something which is more crucial than anything else: there is no way this village is going to accept Kuruharan as an innocent no matter what happens and though I wish to believe Amanaduial is a wolf, which will allow Lhuna to dream of Kuru tonight, I can in no way be sure. I tend to forget Amanaduial is a newbie to this game, because of the way she posts, but she is and therefore more likely to make mistakes.

++KURUHARAN

You have played a very clean game and whatever you turn out to be, Sir, you are undoubtedly one of the most brilliant players I ever had the honour to argue with.

So, now here's to hoping I am wrong.

[Kuruharan]

I don't think I'm going to be able to save myself toDAY and I've got to leave my conncetion.

I cast my protest vote for ++ Amanaduial.

After you have the inevitable nasty shock you are about to get, (and I assume after you get Amanaduial) pay attention to what Rune is saying about Meneltarmacil and malkatoj...although obviously I don't think both are guilty.

Have an eye for Azaelia too.

It's been fun.

[Meneltarmacil]

No time to read, no time to review, must vote now.

++Amanduial the Archer

Sorry if I'm wrong.

[Amanaduial the archer]

Meneltarmacil - 1
Kuruharan - 4
Amanaduial - 4

Well, currently you're in line to die having reached 4 votes first, but hey, I'm not sure that won't change - 2 villagers left to vote could make alot of difference. Not sure how you and I came to be directly competing, Kuru - and even if you are a wolf, there's at least one other wolf somewhere in this village who is probably watching the proceedings and cackling gleefully...