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Feanor of the Peredhil · 01-19-2006, 12:57 PM

Three Wolves: no PMing during the DAY but are allowed to privately plot at NIGHT. One kill per night. We all know this role. Just reiterating that when the wolves were allowed to plot all day, it was a foolish "advantage" as wolves can pick up "hidden" signals in each other's posts far more easily than innocents can, so they don't need extra chat.

Seer: I sleep fitfully at NIGHT and ask Illamatar... I mean... the mod... whether or not a chosen villager is guilty. In the day, I try to stay alive and I try to keep villagers alive and get werewolves lynched.

Villagers: We talk a lot without knowing anything for certain.

This game is the most fun. But since we seem to want "frills" of a sort, I'm perfectly happy to add

Hunter: whenever the Hunter dies, s/he gets to take somebody out with them.

Ranger: Protects somebody each NIGHT and the wolves can't kill the one they're protecting.

Ranger is probably my favorite "extra" role... probably because of that game Thinlo mentioned. Fun time, that.

Cursed is neat too... usually doesn't come into play, but has altered the course of a game once or twice.

Whatever works.

And we're having retractable? I thought that was the one certain thing; your vote is your vote and that's final.

Anguirel · 01-19-2006, 01:00 PM

Sleepy was planning on non-retractable. I think it might be an interesting experiment leading to more politicking...

Thinlómien · 01-19-2006, 01:02 PM

I second Fea's model. It's the only one I've ever played, but it worked well. Now we are of course having more players than (I think) we had then, so it might affect the situation. And, I'm also willing to try other models as well.

Feanor of the Peredhil · 01-19-2006, 01:08 PM

From the perspective of a former Moddess, I can say that having too many special roles without enough people causes a lot of PM answering for the mod, a lot of confusion, and by the end of the game, everybody knows who everybody is, so it completely ruins last minute "Omigod, did I make a huge mistake?" paranoia.

WW games really do need a lot of paranoia to be really fun...

Mithalwen · 01-19-2006, 01:13 PM

Well I signed up because of the offer of retractable votes.......

Feanor of the Peredhil · 01-19-2006, 01:23 PM

I can handle retractable votes. They tend to amuse me and up the paranoia level. "Is she serious, or does she plan to retract her vote at the last minute??!?!"

Garin · 01-19-2006, 02:06 PM

If we keep just the rudimentary roles, retractable votes could spice things up.
wolves, seer, hunter, ranger, cursed...
Retracting a vote raises a lot of suspicion.

Valier · 01-19-2006, 02:22 PM

hmmm I am not so sure I like the idea of retractable votes..but then again I have never played a game that had them.I played the werewolf game that is still currently being played.I got murdered by Werewolves,I might add

But if others think it will make the game more interesting...then I'm up for it.

Oh also if we have the Ranger we must decided how many nights they can protect one person, and how many times can the Seer ask the same dead person ie:Werewolf

01-19-2006, 12:57 PM	#1
Feanor of the Peredhil La Belle Dame sans Merci Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: perpetual uncertainty Posts: 5,517	The Game I Recommend: Three Wolves: no PMing during the DAY but are allowed to privately plot at NIGHT. One kill per night. We all know this role. Just reiterating that when the wolves were allowed to plot all day, it was a foolish "advantage" as wolves can pick up "hidden" signals in each other's posts far more easily than innocents can, so they don't need extra chat. Seer: I sleep fitfully at NIGHT and ask Illamatar... I mean... the mod... whether or not a chosen villager is guilty. In the day, I try to stay alive and I try to keep villagers alive and get werewolves lynched. Villagers: We talk a lot without knowing anything for certain. This game is the most fun. But since we seem to want "frills" of a sort, I'm perfectly happy to add Hunter: whenever the Hunter dies, s/he gets to take somebody out with them. Ranger: Protects somebody each NIGHT and the wolves can't kill the one they're protecting. Ranger is probably my favorite "extra" role... probably because of that game Thinlo mentioned. Fun time, that. Cursed is neat too... usually doesn't come into play, but has altered the course of a game once or twice. Whatever works. And we're having retractable? I thought that was the one certain thing; your vote is your vote and that's final. __________________ peace

01-19-2006, 01:00 PM	#2
Anguirel Byronic Brand Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The 1590s Posts: 2,778	Sleepy was planning on non-retractable. I think it might be an interesting experiment leading to more politicking... __________________ Among the friendly dead, being bad at games did not seem to matter -Il Lupo Fenriso

01-19-2006, 01:02 PM	#3
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	I second Fea's model. It's the only one I've ever played, but it worked well. Now we are of course having more players than (I think) we had then, so it might affect the situation. And, I'm also willing to try other models as well. __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

01-19-2006, 01:08 PM	#4
Feanor of the Peredhil La Belle Dame sans Merci Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: perpetual uncertainty Posts: 5,517	From the perspective of a former Moddess, I can say that having too many special roles without enough people causes a lot of PM answering for the mod, a lot of confusion, and by the end of the game, everybody knows who everybody is, so it completely ruins last minute "Omigod, did I make a huge mistake?" paranoia. WW games really do need a lot of paranoia to be really fun... __________________ peace

01-19-2006, 01:13 PM	#5
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	Well I signed up because of the offer of retractable votes....... __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

01-19-2006, 01:23 PM	#6
Feanor of the Peredhil La Belle Dame sans Merci Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: perpetual uncertainty Posts: 5,517	I can handle retractable votes. They tend to amuse me and up the paranoia level. "Is she serious, or does she plan to retract her vote at the last minute??!?!" __________________ peace

01-19-2006, 02:06 PM	#7
Garin Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ciudad de Lago del Sal Posts: 331	If we keep just the rudimentary roles, retractable votes could spice things up. wolves, seer, hunter, ranger, cursed... Retracting a vote raises a lot of suspicion. __________________ I am a sick man ... I am a spiteful man. I am an unpleasant man. I think my liver is diseased. Fyodor Dostoevsky "Notes From the Underground"

01-19-2006, 02:22 PM	#8
Valier Twisted Taleswapper Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: somewhere between sanity and insanity Posts: 1,706	hmmm I am not so sure I like the idea of retractable votes..but then again I have never played a game that had them.I played the werewolf game that is still currently being played.I got murdered by Werewolves,I might add But if others think it will make the game more interesting...then I'm up for it. Oh also if we have the Ranger we must decided how many nights they can protect one person, and how many times can the Seer ask the same dead person ie:Werewolf __________________ grand return?........