WWJ IV: Let the insanity ensue

[Eonwe]

I dunno. I had a fealing Lommy would bite it last night. She didn't leave much evidence, having only been on for 3 1/2 hours, which would have been a plus for teh wolves. And having voted for Wilwa, she wasn't going to be leaving a trail. Also, nobody was suspecting her. But the main thing is how late she arrived.

[Folwren]

The wolves, as far as I can reason, generally don't kill the questionable people, do they? You'd think they'd . . . heck, what'm I doing, giving the wolves suggestions? Never mind. I won't tell you what wolves should do as a general practice.

I'm still surprised. She was the last person I expected killed. . .besides Jenny.

-- Folwren

[Firefoot]

First of all, let me tell you how happy I was to come home yesterday and find that you all actually could talk!! Seriously, the discussion was nice, even if I was the topic of a lot of it (at least early on).

Several people noted that my posts seemed contradictory... that's because they were. My own opinion was in that first post; the other two plans were mostly to stimulate discussion.

For the record, here is yesterday's voting. Innocents are underlined, the second number is the order in which everyone voted:

Gandalf – 1 (Firefoot 1)
Jenny – 2 (Sleepy 2, Eonwe 4)
Elu – 1 (Valier 3)
Wilwa – 3 (Roa 5, Lommy 6, Jenny 9)
Valier – 2 (Mith 7, Folwren 10)
Eonwe – 1 (Nogrod 8)

Did not vote: Elu, Wilwa, Gandalf

In my experience, it is generally not the wolves who do not vote. That doesn't necessarily mean anything, but I certainly would not accuse Elu or Gandalf based on that.

Okay, now my really long analysis of yesterday. It doesn't take into account Lommy's death.

Jenny – Casts some suspicion on people based on careers; random suspicion on Eonwe, but supports Mithalwen (who hasn’t even posted yet); suggests vote for last contributor; does Day 1 “analysis” based solely on people’s careers; jumps on Mithalwen’s suspicion of me and comments about how much I seemed to contradict myself – rather vindictively; promptly backs off at Folwren’s suspicion of her; defends herself to Sleepy and advises him to be more careful; declares she is not doing any accusing or insinuating at all about Lommy or Mith; votes Wilwa for her quietness. Okay, a lot jumped out at me about her. One thing I did notice was that she seemed to be leaning on Mithalwen a bit and it occurred to me early on that there might be some kind of wolvish pairing there, made obvious by Jenny’s inexperience. She does seem rather eager to please, though it could be inexperience as people have pointed it out to be. Her vote for Wilwa is not what I would call incriminating, but it doesn’t help her stance either. Jenny is on my suspicion list.

Eonwe – a few short posts; votes for Jenny; clarifies his reasoning for his vote, that is rather flippant and flip-floppy posting. Even though not much jumped out at me in his individual posts, my overall impression of him was pretty good. He seems careful without being cautious, and did not seem particularly wolvish to me.

Sleepy Ranger – rather careless in ascribing Jenny’s strategy to me, comes down hard on Jenny and votes for her; gets rather down on himself and advises the village just to lynch him. Sleepy seems too careless to be a wolf, too joking as well. The latter part doesn’t necessarily mean anything since that’s just sort of the way he is, but he seemed rather carefree. He isn’t in the clear, but he’s not particularly suspicious to me either.

Roa – Says Jenny is hasty, supports careful evaluation; is somewhat suspicious of both Jenny and Sleepy; continued expression of her desire to see Lommy post; isn’t quite sure about Jenny and Sleepy, votes for Wilwa based mostly on her absence. Roa seems quite innocent to me. Her advice was good, and her general impressions of people seemed reasonable. She’s on my probably-innocent list. Once more, I don’t see anything particularly outstanding about the vote for Wilwa.

Valier – Talk about shoes; does not advise long, analytic posts because she says it brings suspicion; says long posts confuse her; votes for Elu at random despite the recent increased substance of posting. I don’t have much of an impression about her – she’s very… up. I’d like to see her calm down, I guess, and post some more substantial feelings, ideas, something. In the middle of the suspicion chart.

Nogrod – apparently some random suspicion; agrees some kind of plan would be good, is one of the few to actually suggest something useful in the early posting; emphasizes his point that he will be looking among the people who are too much of anything: quiet, talkative, friendly, helpful, etc.; is clearly thinking about his vote, wonders if there is anything significant about the voting thus far; votes Eonwe. Gut instinct says he is probably innocent. Nothing for sure, but I did think his vote for Eonwe was a little strange as I don’t see a whole lot suspicious about Eonwe. Even so, I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt right now.

Elu – Joking. His computer troubles were understandable, but I would still like to see much more out of him in the coming Days. I don’t really have anything to say about him.

Gandalf – Claims he is not smart at this. Yes, I voted for Gandalf, and like I said, it really was mostly random. Of the people who had posted thus far I picked one of the people who had really contributed very little. I don’t have any idea what to think about him; I’d like to hear more out of him.

Folwren – a very sensible post of some length, understands what I was trying to do and defends me, first notes Jenny’s apparent desperation; then accepts Jenny’s explanation; still talking sense in responses to others’ comments; votes Valier. I have a strong feeling about Folwren’s innocence. She responded very sensibly to people’s posts and often stated the same feelings as I was having. I’m not writing her off yet, but I don’t feel very suspicious of her at all right now.

Mithalwen – expresses some suspicion at me mostly for being rather vocal in the very early stages (someone finally provides some substance!); decides to give Jenny benefit of the doubt and eases on her suspicion of me; calls Valier’s posting frothy (I rather like this term – very appropriately descriptive); consistent with her suspicions she votes Valier for flimsiness. Mithalwen seemed very steady and consistent, which is definitely a good sign. She hasn’t said anything to send up warning signs, and except for Jenny’s apparent affinity for her, I would say she is probably innocent.

And, for the record, here's what I was going to say about Lommy:

Lommy – is suspicious of Wilwa, Valier, Sleepy, and is confused about me; votes for Wilwa somewhat randomly. Mostly, I thought she was talking sensibly and I couldn’t fault her for anything that she said. That doesn’t prove her innocence, and she’s certainly a smart one, but I don’t think she’s a wolf, even if she did vote for the now-known innocent Wilwa.

Also for the record, I will regularly be voting early like that except on weekends. I just don't get home early enough.

[Elu Ancalime]

Well my computer troubles are over, but as we all know it is exams time...up, and for that means Chemistry! Evil Stoicometry....well anyways...

Lommy came to me as a bit...well, odd. I dont remember her being specifically suspicous of anybody....
Well I'm anxious to see what others think of this random murder.....I also just made this connection-Lommy was associated with Penguins, yes? And Wilwa had the Butterfly thing goin on....perhaps Squaresville is merely caught in the middle of a gurella war between werebirds and wolves, like i hypothesized earlier....who knows? Maybe then we can guess who the wolves will get next....eek, did I just accuse myself? Ah, me...but I have a concert tonite, so expect (perhaps) a response at....well I dont really know. 8:30ish? But concerts may drag on....

But the main thing is how late she arrived.

Well, she obviously wasnt a Wizard....

Ok I apologize for the jokes but right now I really cant comprehend much since there have only been a few 'wow' posts and an analysis.

-Elu
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[Sleepy Ranger]

Argh! I have absolutely no idea whats going on because of my silly exam tomorrow. Right since I woke up its been talk to Jess, study, study, study, study. Yes I haven't even had time to eat properly... so kindly excuse my absence from the game today. If I do vote it'll be a completely random vote going by gut feelings or I'll probably just vote for myself so as not to place the Seer or Ranger at risk.

Yours Mess-Mindedly,
Sleepy Ranger

PS: Tomorrow I'm acing my birthday and celebrating my exam!

[JennyHallu]

Agh...villagers, do you not listen? I am not at home, I am at my MIL's for a funeral. This means it is very difficult for me to post.

I think I will be able to get on at least once later, but I am not sure. I am sure enough though that I will not vote just yet.

I am very sorry for Wilwarin's death. I am aware that I was the last to vote for her, and that indeed, my vote killed her. However, that vote was a tiebreaker to save myself, and I waited until 10 minutes before the deadline to cast it. I wish I had waited 5 minutes more--I cross-posted with Folwren, and had I seen her post, I would have voted differently.

Eonwe, I am sorry that my over-eagerness yesterday, combined with my silence today, has caused to to suspect me, but please understand over-eagerness is the sole cause of my silliness yesterday. And the first few posts based on careers were purely silliness, as was, originally, my irrational trust of Mithalwen. Muffins are good, no one can argue, and I was hungry yesterday. However, Mithalwen's response, with its trust of me and sense, was very appreciated as I realized how my overposting had brought suspicion down on me. I do trust Mithalwen, as it would have been easy at that point to turn that suspicion against me into an attack I couldn't have escaped from.

[Eonwe]

I can buy that, but only on some very cautious grounds. After all, you can say anything you want, right? Especially when you have the type of job you said you have: sedentary, and by a computer. Was there ever a better job for a 'Downer?

Also, I didn't say I suspect you for your silence today. I don't offen go off silence for my suspicions. There is too much stuff that can interfere from RL, and I understand that. Espcially when it is a funeral. Very sorry about that, by the way.

Anyway, lets try and get some things discussed, shall we?

[Folwren]

Thanks, Firefoot, for our voting records and your opinion of people. I'd say it was helpful. Thanks for your kind words concerning me, glad to hear that my posts are at least somewhat sensible. I do my best, you know.

I guess I shouldn't be expecting too much talking today, other than stuff from Firefoot, but I can't possibly vote unless others write something and I feel more confident, one way or another. Unless I vote from what I feel about yesterday. . .

But, there's still time. Some. . .a very little.

-- Folwren

[Folwren]

I cross posted my last post with Elu.

Wanted to say, there may not be many posts from today, but there were several things said yesterday that you might try to comment on. Or at least you could try to say something interesting and helpful concerning Firefoot's post. . .you could have, you know. . .

[Elu Ancalime]

Well, Firefoot's post is nice, because although it has her opinions, there is fact (snnipets of what they did) so I see it as more of a Halftime-Report more than what she likes and dislikes about them. One of things you have to be careful about (not exclusivly Firefoot's post, but opinions in general) is to extract fact from bias and personal anaysis.

X Post with Folwren

I still am a bit frustrated by Valier saying I play my trumpet horribly....Maybe she has two left paws-I mean feet? Not that I am wholly suspicous, aside from that comment and the 'random' vote....
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[Folwren]

Yes, it is a hard thing, sometimes, to seperate fact from bias, and something you have to be careful about. But seeing people's annalysis of everyone is helpful. I would do it myself and should have done it before, but now I really don't have time. I don't know if we're any farther along today then we were yesterday. It really is a sad thing that we killed our Hunter with our own hands, and though it's cruel to say so, perhaps it's a good thing that the wolves killed Lommy and didn't hit on the Seer or the Ranger. We can just hope that the ranger will be able to pick up on the seer's whereabouts before the wolves do. . .

My point is - yesterday's lynching and last night's killing has helped us in the least. All that will help us now is some posts that's not full of nonsense, but that is full of people's thoughts of the other players and what's happened.

Right now, my thoughts, put simply (because I don't have time to put them any other ways) is this

Valier yesterday and Elu today seem to be speaking hardly anything but nonesense. I know Elu has hardly talked at all today and that only an hour and twenty or so minutes has past since morning broke, but you haven't really offered anything substantiel. Valier didn't give anything of any purpose yesterday. Her vote was random, and it was for Elu. Still don't know what to make of that. I voted for Valier yesterday because I thought her post about people not making long posts but still talking or something like that was kind of. . .unreasonable. She's unsure of herself.

Firefoot, I think, is sensible and doesn't seem, to me, to be wishing anyone harm. She seems to know what's best for this village and it appears that we think are thinking along the same lines in some things. . .for instance, useful talk is good.

Eonwe. . .very careful in what he says and does. Only posted a few things yesterday, gave a good reason for his vote, I think.

Mith seems reasonable. She appears to be trying to think things out like any ordinary, blind villager might. She directed her attention and others towards one or two people, but she wasn't pointing right and left and she was generally fairly reserved in doing it, unlike. . .

Jenny. See what Firefoot wrote about her. I'm still willing to give her the benefit of the doubt for being a new player, but as this day progresses, you who remain will have to decide that. The more she talks and plays, the more clear on which side she is will become, I think.

Roa. Little comment here. I liked most of what she wrote yesterday, though I'm still uncertain netirely. She was much like Mith except talked a bit more, I guess.

And. . .that's my dad callin', so I don't have time for more. Who was left?

Gandalf didn't talk much. No comment therefore.

Wilwa and Lommy are dead, and I would that they had both lived. I knew you'd made a mistake when you lynched her.

Oh, oh, oh. I neglected Nogrod and Sleepy. Argh. Sleepy, unsure. I'm inclined to think he's an ordo. Nogrod. . .I have my doubts, but can't explain.

I've really got to be going. I'm really, really sorry.

-- Folwren

[Kitanna]

I apologize for the delay
It was a confusing night and once again the villager gathered to discuss. Like the past two days they woke to find one villager missing. It was the mild mannered seamstress, Folwren.

No one had any hope for her being alive. With heavy hearts the villagers trudged off to Folwren’s house. Her door had been forced open and it was clear she had struggled to hold the wolves back.

They found Folwren’s body next to her sewing machine. The wolves had made a mockery of her humble work by sewing her mouth shut and with hot pink thread at that. But what surprised them more than anything was the broad sword that protruded from Folwren’s abdomen.

No one had seen it before, but slowly two plus two became four. The sword had been Folwren’s secret, she had been their ranger and now their protection against the wolves was gone.

LIVING
JennyHallu ~ Friendly neighborhood tax collector
Eonwe ~ Hermit
Firefoot ~ Person who runs the stables
Roa_Aoife ~ Local protestor/ lobbyist
Valier ~ Dance instructor
Nogrod ~ Pipe-weed grower
Elu Ancalime ~ Brass Musician
Gandalf_the _white ~ Magician
Mithalwen ~ Baker/confectioner

DEAD
Kitanna (mod)~ Stabbed with a letter opener on Night One
Wilwarin (hunter)~ Flogged to death on Day One
Thinlómien (ordo) ~ Dropped dead from fright on Night Two
Sleepy Ranger (ordo) ~ Eaten by penguins on Day Two
Folwren (ranger) ~ Sewed shut and run through on Night Three

[Nogrod]

This is catastrophic! If we continue playing like this, we propably lynch our seer before this day is over!

There are now 9 people left in the village: so the balance of villagers vs. Wolves is 6-3. If these two “non-posters” (Gandalf & Elu) are villagers, the balance stands at only 4-3! We might as well cut our own throats. Then we could at least decide ourselves when and how we die!

[Roa_Aoife]

I agree with Nogrod. This is getting rediculous! We have nothing to go on because no one will talk. How can we expect to catch the wolves like this? I for one am going back to study Folwren's posts and see what he came up with. I invite you all to go back and see what you can find. PLEASE.

EDIT: Cross-posted with Firefoot. Thanks Firefoot.

[Valier]

Wow I was not expecting that! Our Ranger and our Hunter! Well so much has been going on...Not

Ok so here are my thoughts:

Gandalf did not vote again! I think there should be a penalty for not voting two nights in a row. We know Jenny was busy.

Hmmmm I still think there is always key players like I said earlier, but most of the time they are just loud innocents. My vote yesterday for Mith was sort of random, I just think she could be a clever wolf. I also hadn't heard much from her defending herself or posting any ideas until after I had already voted.

Oh yea I promised a little dance for not killing me!(*does some weird Jig*)

Ok well it is really important that we do not kill another innocent today! We should lynch someone who has posted a fair bit and we can get a slight grasp on. The quiet ones are too risky to lynch now, we can't afford another mistake.

[Firefoot]

Well, those are sad tidings indeed. Folwren provided many a thoughtful comment during the day, and I was as confident of her innocence as I have been about anyone's. Her insights - and her protection at night - will be sorely missed.

Jenny – 1 (Elu 1)
Nogrod – 1 (Firefoot 2)
Valier – 1 (Roa 3)
Mithalwen – 1 (Valier 4)
Sleepy – 3 (Sleepy 5, Mith 6, Nogrod 7)

Did not vote: Gandalf, Eonwe, Jenny, Folwren

Let me say that I was rather disappointed when I found that you had chosen to go ahead and lynch Sleepy. Most wolves aren't going to vote for themselves, not at this point in the game where a vote for just about anyone could be justified. He called it a "safe vote" - meaning that he wasn't gifted - but come on, how is it helping the villagers if we vote ourselves out?? We have to focus on catching wolves here. There aren't that many of us. Now, we're down to 2/3 villagers and 1/3 wolves - not what I would call good odds. If we mess up just two more times, the wolves have got us. Now, the seer has had three dreams - now, if all three of the subjects of those dreams were alive, I might almost see some validity in the seer revealing themselves. But if one or more of them are dead, then no.

However we do it, we villagers have some hard-core wolf hunting to do. We can't afford to screw up.

So here's who we have left:

Probably Innocent:
Mithalwen
Roa
And me, of course

Suspicious:
Jenny
Eonwe
Nogrod

Unknown:
Gandalf
Valier
Elu

Nogrod - perhaps my reasons for voting for you yesterday weren't the best, but it's been the best scenario that I have been able to find of possible wolvishness. I still haven't let that idea of a Eownwe-Nogrod alliance go, but I would like to explore other possibilities today. I would especially like to hear more concrete ideas from Gandalf, Valier, and Elu - but I want to hear them from everyone. If we don't start discussing better, the wolves will win almost guaranteed.

I will be looking into Folwren's death more later, to see if I can't find anything other than her apparent innocence and helpfulness to the village as incentive to kill her.