WWJ IV: Let the insanity ensue - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Sleepy Ranger · 02-17-2006, 01:45 PM

playing it safe,

++Sleepy Ranger

Mithalwen · 02-17-2006, 01:59 PM

Oh great, that is so helpful... now we have self votes as well as spite votes.

Folwren and Firefoot have both posted reasonable, substantial analyses. It would be foolish to trust anyone completely but they are reliable people to have around. I am not sure I agree with either about Nogrod. I have enough problem trusting my own hunches without risking other peoples.

I will really have to think about my vote. I stated my intention earlier but.... I have a natural resistance to "tit for tat" voting. Hmmm

Nogrod · 02-17-2006, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

Folwren and Firefoot have both posted reasonable, substantial analyses. It would be foolish to trust anyone completely but they are reliable people to have around. I am not sure I agree with either about Nogrod. I have enough problem trusting my own hunches without risking other peoples.

Sorry. But I was just trying to give some reasons for voting Eonwe the first day, because I had myself been voted on the basis of that vote today, on grounds, that my vote was "strange". How many not-strange decisions have been made yesterday or today?

I think, I said quite clearly that:
a) They were the tiny little & only one thing I had to base my vote on
b) Even if i had found something supporting my first-day ideas today, I definitely said that they were very little indeed

So, I was defending my vote, not accusing anyone straight ahead. As I said yesterday: better to vote with even the slightest of idea, why, than by pure chance. So in a way I think exactly as you do: not just hunches, but ideas, even fragile ones'. Or then not voting at all, of course...

Mithalwen · 02-17-2006, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Sorry. But I was just trying to give some reasons for voting Eonwe the first day, because I had myself been voted on the basis of that vote today, on grounds, that my vote was "stange". How many not-strange decisions have been made yesterday or today & am I the only one who has to give reasons votes?

I think I said quite clearly that:
a) They were the tiny little & only one thing I had to base my vote
b) Even if i had found something supporting my first-day ideas, I definitely said that they were very little indeed

So, I was defending my vote, not accusing anyone straight ahead. As I said yesterday: better to vote with even the slightest of idea, why, than by pure chance. So in a way I think exactly as you do: not just hunches, but ideas, even fragile ones'. Or then not voting at all, of course...

Oh I am doomed to be misunderstood..... I menat that I didn't agree with their suspicion of you on - I think Folwren said " a funny feeling".... sometimes funny feelings are right but the wrong conclusions can be drawn....... I don't want to be more explicit ... since as I said hunches can be misleading... and I am having enough trouble with the vote to go into it now....

Mithalwen · 02-17-2006, 02:37 PM

Well to vote for someone with no votes unless we concur is tokenism. Otherwise it is a choice of Jenny or one of the others. Of course we both have the power to save ourselves unless we vote for each other. I have no intention of voting for you.

If I vote it will be either for Valier - becasue I have suspected her more or less since get go and I think her posts contribute little - or we could put Sleepy out of his misery.....

Nogrod · 02-17-2006, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

Of course we both have the power to save ourselves unless we vote for each other. I have no intention of voting for you.

No intention to shake that balance...

So Valier or Sleepy (or someone third)?

15 minutes...

Nogrod · 02-17-2006, 02:41 PM

I do think Jenny deserves the benefit of doubt anyhow, at least now.

Not voting someone of us or two people someone other, she will die.

Sleepy was kind of suspicios, and this self-vote is odd. Passive, chivalric or cunning wulf-tactics?

Valier?

Doubleposted with Mith.

Valier · 02-17-2006, 02:43 PM

I managed to get home quickly!! I beg you villagers I am innocent please don't kill me !!

Mithalwen · 02-17-2006, 02:44 PM

Either ...... I want to keep Jenny I believe her innocent ..... I do suspect Valier but Sleepy has opted out

Valier · 02-17-2006, 02:45 PM

I will do a little dance for you as long as you don't kill me!!!

Mithalwen · 02-17-2006, 02:46 PM

Really it is 2 and in the circumstances that is a big ask Valier....

Mithalwen · 02-17-2006, 02:28 PM

So with 25 minutes to go it seems that Nogrod, Sleepy, Valier, Jenny and I have a vote each.

I would do more analysis but it seem pointless at this stage if noone else is around.

So as things stand. Jenny dies? So I could save her and myself with my vote ..... I think her innocent but ..if I am wrong ...and another innocent dies as a result... I dislike such power. IS anyone else voting?

Nogrod · 02-17-2006, 02:32 PM

I am, I think. Not sure.

Don't like this situation at all.

02-17-2006, 01:45 PM	#1
Sleepy Ranger Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: On the field, kissing the 'Downs crest Posts: 1,654	playing it safe, ++Sleepy Ranger __________________ And tonight we can truly say, together we're invincible... Middle-Earth Football World Cup 2007

02-17-2006, 01:59 PM	#2
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	Oh great, that is so helpful... now we have self votes as well as spite votes. Folwren and Firefoot have both posted reasonable, substantial analyses. It would be foolish to trust anyone completely but they are reliable people to have around. I am not sure I agree with either about Nogrod. I have enough problem trusting my own hunches without risking other peoples. I will really have to think about my vote. I stated my intention earlier but.... I have a natural resistance to "tit for tat" voting. Hmmm __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

02-17-2006, 02:37 PM	#5
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	Well to vote for someone with no votes unless we concur is tokenism. Otherwise it is a choice of Jenny or one of the others. Of course we both have the power to save ourselves unless we vote for each other. I have no intention of voting for you. If I vote it will be either for Valier - becasue I have suspected her more or less since get go and I think her posts contribute little - or we could put Sleepy out of his misery..... __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

02-17-2006, 02:41 PM	#7
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	I do think Jenny deserves the benefit of doubt anyhow, at least now. Not voting someone of us or two people someone other, she will die. Sleepy was kind of suspicios, and this self-vote is odd. Passive, chivalric or cunning wulf-tactics? Valier? Doubleposted with Mith. __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

02-17-2006, 02:44 PM	#9
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	Either ...... I want to keep Jenny I believe her innocent ..... I do suspect Valier but Sleepy has opted out __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

02-17-2006, 02:43 PM	#8
Valier Twisted Taleswapper Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: somewhere between sanity and insanity Posts: 1,706	I managed to get home quickly!! I beg you villagers I am innocent please don't kill me !!

02-17-2006, 02:45 PM	#10
Valier Twisted Taleswapper Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: somewhere between sanity and insanity Posts: 1,706	I will do a little dance for you as long as you don't kill me!!!

02-17-2006, 02:46 PM	#11
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	Really it is 2 and in the circumstances that is a big ask Valier.... __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

02-17-2006, 02:28 PM	#12
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	So with 25 minutes to go it seems that Nogrod, Sleepy, Valier, Jenny and I have a vote each. I would do more analysis but it seem pointless at this stage if noone else is around. So as things stand. Jenny dies? So I could save her and myself with my vote ..... I think her innocent but ..if I am wrong ...and another innocent dies as a result... I dislike such power. IS anyone else voting? __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

02-17-2006, 02:32 PM	#13
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	I am, I think. Not sure. Don't like this situation at all. __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...