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View Poll Results: Who or What is Tom Bombadil
A nature spirit? 14 29.17%
The spirit of Middle-earth itself? 11 22.92%
A Maiar? 5 10.42%
A Vala? 3 6.25%
An Elf? 0 0%
A Dwarf? 1 2.08%
An immortal Man? 0 0%
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Eru? 0 0%
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Old 02-20-2006, 11:04 AM   #19
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Since Tom remembers the dark beneath the stars when it was fearless, Varda's star-kindling must have taken place before his memory begins, and therefore he was not alive when the Dark Lord originally entered Arda, first of all the Valar.
Another point to be noted is that there were stars, dimmer and more feeble, before Varda's great star-kindling.
It is worth noting that the these first stars seem to be made also by Varda, as seen in the Silmarillion/Annals of Aman:
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But as the ages drew on to the hour appointed by Iluvatar for the coming of the Firstborn, Middle-earth lay in a twilight beneath the stars that Varda had wrought in the ages forgotten of her labours in Ea
(although in the great reshaping of Myths transformed, HoME X, Tolkien states that she couldn't have done that, since the 'general' stars do not concern "the Valar of Arda").
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