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Old 02-20-2006, 12:34 PM   #7
Findegil
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I think the discussion is focused to a time later then the "feelings" of Melkor for Varda. As already quted it is told that "Melkor she knew from before the making of the Music". Well I don't think that any of the Ainur did not know Melkor but it is mentioned in a way to suggest that Varda did already know that Melkor was on a strange path (strange not evil) before ever the music started. And it is quite possible that this was the case since it is told that Melkor "had gone often alone into the void places ... being alone he had begun to conceive thoughts of his own unlike those of his brethren."

So the sequence of the events was like this:
Making of the Ainur
Making of the timless halls
while the Ainur sing alone or in small groups before Eru Melkor is often in the Void
Melkor begins to think his own thoughts astranged from his brethern
Melkor desires Varda (for what ever)
She sees his astrangement from the other Ainu and rejects him
the playing of the Music
the Valar move into Ea
Varda gets the light newly given from Eru
She enters Ea to become Manwes companion

It is more than once told that "in Arda" Varda is Manwes soupose. WHich for me means that she had become so after both entered Ea.

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