Gollum and Eagles: Deux ex machina? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Nogrod · 02-23-2006, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Firefoot

No, it's completion. If Frodo were to have died at Mt. Doom, his journey would not have been complete. Well, I suppose it would have been within the story, but he still had more learning, growing, to do. Simply killing off the characters even if it might be the most logical thing within the story to happen is not always the solution.

Well, what did he really learn, where did he show that growing?

I guess, this is just the place were Tolkien has not thought of everything... Frodo is quite lame after the climax: or unbelievably heroish' when coming to the Shire. There is something rotten in the state of the Shire...

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Okay, so maybe some of it is aesthetics. But not wholly - it's not quite that simple. There was more for them to do, further for them to go before the story could end. The problem was that without some kind of Deus ex Machina, there wasn't really a way for that to happen - hence the Eagles.

I quite agree. J.R.R. had to find a solution, and a solution he did come by!

***Mister Underhill*** · 02-23-2006, 10:46 PM

Wow, fast moving thread! I still need to catch up on the many interesting posts here, but I thought I'd toss out that there is in fact an old deus ex machina thread started by the long lost doug*platypus. Keep rolling here -- just thought those with spare time and an extra-special interest in deus ex might be interested.

I'll be back here if I can get up to speed and think of something worth adding.

02-23-2006, 10:46 PM	#2
*Mister Underhill* Dread Horseman Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Behind you! Posts: 2,744	Wow, fast moving thread! I still need to catch up on the many interesting posts here, but I thought I'd toss out that there is in fact an old deus ex machina thread started by the long lost doug*platypus. Keep rolling here -- just thought those with spare time and an extra-special interest in deus ex might be interested. I'll be back here if I can get up to speed and think of something worth adding.