Tol-in-Gaurhoth XVIII: The Play’s The Thing… - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Garin · 02-25-2006, 03:57 PM

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I really hope you're a wolf.

Sorry pal, you are wrong. The village appears doomed.

Shelob · 02-25-2006, 04:05 PM

(The village square, the tempers which have until now remained fairly under control have begun to break from their constraints as the Third DAY progresses)

Littlemanpoet: (reflecting and slightly remorseful) To be, or not to be – that is the question; Whether ‘tis nobler in the mind to NOT CHEAT (here glaring rather accusatorially at SPM and NILP)
Saucepan Man: It was not cheating, and I’m not going to stand here and be insulted like that.
Littlemanpoet: Running away, eh? Come back here and take what’s coming to you.
Aiwendil: I wouldn’t say it was quite cheating, the anagrams were right out in the open, there for anyone to see.
Nilpaurion: Yeah, it was more like in Clue. The rules say “A door is the opening in the wall”, well all the windows have the same sort of holes in the walls. So the windows are doors, it’s not cheating because there’s nothing against it in the rules.
Littlemanpoet: There’s nothing for it in the rules either.
Saucepan Man: Perhaps, but to cheat one must “violate rules deliberately”, we can’t violate rules if they don’t exist.
Littlemanpoet: Oh dear, I hadn’t thought of that. (and promptly vanishes in a puff of [almost] logic)
Formendacil: That was unexpected…
Kath: Too true, might I suggest we move on.
Mormegil: Good idea, I nominate that we should lynch Eomer, as he’s now the most suspicious looking person.
Dancing Spawn: I’ll second that, “hypocrite” indeed.
Eomer: Fair is foul now, keep that in mind.
Farael: And foul fair, but knowing that doesn’t seem to be helping.
Celuien: I don’t know, Garin’s been looking pretty wolfy since Day 1.
Garin: Wolfy?
Glirdan: Gah, this whole thing’s been so confusing. It’s setting up the complete wrong mood for writing music.
Boromir88: Look, it’s getting close to NIGHT, let’s just lynch Garin. He’s got the majority of votes now anyway.

(The villagers mob Garin and manage to get him onto the gallows which are still in the square.)

Garin: I’m telling you, this is a mistake. You’ll regret it you will!

(Regardless of what Garin says the villagers crowd round and pull the lever. Like Gil-Galad before him Garin dies cleanly without any signs of Lycanthropy)

Tar-Ancalime: Again! This isn’t going well at all…not well at all.

(The villagers depart for another NIGHT. They have much to think on, much that needs looking at.)

-----
Living:
Saucepan Man
Farael
Mormegil
Aiwendil
Glirdan
Formendacil
Dancing Spawn of Ungoliant
Nilpaurion Felagund
Eomer of the Rohirrim
Kath
Celuien
Tar-Ancalime
Boromir88

Dead:
Shelob (Mod)--Killed by wolves on NIGHT 1
Abercrombie (Mod)--Killed while Yeti-Spotting on NIGHT 1
Gil-Galad (Ordinary)--Lynched at the close of DAY 1
Holbytlass (True Seer)--Gloucester-ized and welled on NIGHT 2
Lhunardawen (Ordinary)--Drown’d a muddy death upon DAY 2
Anguirel (Ordinary)--Killed quite safely during NIGHT 3
Littlemanpoet (Ordinary)--Vanished during DAY 3
Garin (Ordinary)--Lynched at the end of an eventful DAY3

NIGHT 4 begins, Usual PMs, etc.

Shelob · 02-26-2006, 03:55 PM

(The past night was rainy and so as the villagers make their way through the fields just to the north of their town there is much slipping and many villagers, when they eventually reach Dancing Spawn’s herd of sheep, are covered to some extent with mud. The sheep are, for the most part, grazing though some are still lying asleep.)

Mormegil: It’s a pity it rained last night, if everything weren’t so muddy we might be able to find traces of Dancing Spawn.
Formendacil: Does anyone know how many sheep Spawn looked after?
Eomer: Not really, I can’t recall her ever having said. Why?
Formendacil: It’s just that it seems like there’s more sheep than usual.
Boromir: Perhaps they’re just more spread out than you’ve seen them before, Dancing Spawn isn’t here to keep them from wandering right now.
Glirdan: Or perhaps one of the sheep is Spawn.
Aiwendil: That seems unlikely, I know Spawn cares a great deal for these sheep but I just can’t see her going native.
Glirdan: No, I mean that sheep, (pointing) doesn’t look so much like a sheep sleeping as it does like something wrapped in a sheep skin.

(The two villagers closest to the sheep Glirdan pointed out make their way toward it to investigate)

Farael: Perhaps Spawn is a wolf…in sheep’s clothing.
Saucepan Man: And what? She overslept?
Nilp: (having reached the sheep in question) No, it’s defiantly something that’s not alive wrapped in a sheep skin. Kath, give me a hand will you.

(The two manage to unwrap the sheepskin, which is around Dancing Spawn’s rather mutilated corpse.)

Kath: Urg, unless I’m much mistaken the wolves got her early last night, before the rain really started.

(The other villagers gather around)

Formendacil: Alas poor shepherd, thou art in a perilous state.
Eomer: If these beast be not damned for this, the devil himself…
Farael: We should go back to the village, we have another chance to catch a wolf today and there’s nothing we can do here.

(With that the villagers return to their village square, short another innocent.)

-----
Living:
Saucepan Man
Farael
Mormegil
Aiwendil
Glirdan
Formendacil
Nilpaurion Felagund
Eomer of the Rohirrim
Kath
Celuien
Tar-Ancalime
Boromir88

Dead:
Shelob (Mod)--Killed by wolves on NIGHT 1
Abercrombie (Mod)--Killed while Yeti-Spotting on NIGHT 1
Gil-Galad (Ordinary)--Lynched at the close of DAY 1
Holbytlass (True Seer)--Gloucester-ized and welled on NIGHT 2
Lhunardawen (Ordinary)--Drown’d a muddy death upon DAY 2
Anguirel (Ordinary)--Killed quite safely during NIGHT 3
Littlemanpoet (Ordinary)--Vanished during DAY 3
Garin (Ordinary)--Lynched at the end of an eventful DAY 3
Dancing Spawn of Ungoliant (Ordinary)--Thus was the shepherd beaten from their side during NIGHT 4

DAY 4 begins, a bit earlier than usual but then that's the misfortune of my schedule...

Farael · 02-26-2006, 04:02 PM

Hmm, this death makes Eomer look pretty bad... almost too bad to be real, don'tcha think? We have a smart pack of werewolves in our midst, maybe it's time I change strategy... although I'd much rather see Aiwendil lynched before I do.

mormegil · 02-26-2006, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Farael

Hmm, this death makes Eomer look pretty bad... almost too bad to be real, don'tcha think? We have a smart pack of werewolves in our midst, maybe it's time I change strategy... although I'd much rather see Aiwendil lynched before I do.

So then you are just willing to write him off?

This is folly!

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 02-26-2006, 04:26 PM

Brilliant wolves, just brilliant. They've probably killed two birds with one stone: Spawn and I.

Of course, it's easy for me to see that: I know exactly how the wolves' conversation went last night: "If we kill Spawn, the village will do our job for us and kill Eomer tomorrow."

I am going to have to do one hell of a job to stay alive today.

Nevertheless, I must try.

Did anyone notice that Spawn did not answer my charge of hypocrisy against her? Why an innocent Spawn acted so weird is beyond me. I thought she was being malicious; apparently she was only misguided. I had every intention of bringing her down today because I was certain that the village would eventually come round to my side against Spawn.

Spawn's case against me was (I'll say it again) contrived, false, and based on hypocrisy, as she herself had been acting in a very similar way to me.

Why she had such support yesterday, from SPM, Mormegil and others, baffled me.

Have at it.

Celuien · 02-26-2006, 04:30 PM

Spawn's death looks like a delibrate framing of Eomer after their sparring for the past couple of days. It's not really something I would expect a wolf Eomer to do since it does automatically make him look really, really bad.

But I'm not going to discount him from consideration. It is entirely possible that a Wereomer would have killed Spawn because it is too obvious, expecting to be discounted from debate as a result.

Ugh. My head hurts. First I was completely wrong about Garin after being almost certain he was guilty, now I'm trying to work through bluffs and double bluffs. I think I need a nap.

EDIT: cross-posted with Eomer.

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 02-26-2006, 04:39 PM

The brilliant thing, from the wolves point of view, is that I would be that bold; and they know it.

I'm going to give my predictions for who the wolves are tomorrow. Right now, I'm going to bed.

Oh, and if you want to lynch me then by all means, go ahead. But don't waste this day by jawing about how Eomer is obviously guilty or how Eomer was obviously framed. There are three wolves to find, and I expect you all to be professional. The village doesn't have a lot of time left (especially if the wolves' plan for today is a success).

Farael · 02-26-2006, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mormegil

So then you are just willing to write him off?

This is folly!

No, I think it's either a very bold move or a very smart one. Either way, you know whom I want to see lynched above all others, but something tells me Aiwendil that if Aiwendil is indeed an inocent as he says, he won't be lynched until him being lynched, someone else attacked by night and then me being lynched the following morning will give the wolves a win.

What concerns me the most is that if the wolves were willing to set just about anyone up, why am I alive? kill me and Aiwendil is found in the same spot Eomer is right now... maybe even more so as I have been twice as agressive against him that Spawn against Eomer. Of course my arguments might have not been as good but I think Aiwendil would have been just as framed.

This makes me think about two possible scenarios.

1) Eomer is a wolf (the wolves didn't frame Aiwendil, why would they frame him?)
2) Aiwendil is a wolf (that's why he didn't kill me to frame... himself)

I am fairly certain that there ought to be a wolf in either of them two

Farael · 02-26-2006, 05:53 PM

Actually, I'm certain there is AT LEAST a wolf in them two.... there might even be two wolves

Now, I also forgot to adress tar-a's question...
Well, personally I was hoping LMP would be a wolf (which looked quite likely) and Aiwendil would have been implicated much more strongly.... LMP is not a wolf, but I still think Aiwendil is (stubborn, anyone? =P)

mormegil · 02-26-2006, 04:03 PM

I was convinced after we discovered Garin's innocence and now Spawn's death only shores up my belief that Eomer is guilty.

He will come crying that this is a set up but believe me he was the killer last night. I just can't identify his cohorts yet. Kath? Tar-A? Celuien?

02-25-2006, 04:05 PM	#2
Shelob Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: At the abysmal Abyss Mall. Posts: 276	To die: to sleep...perchance (The village square, the tempers which have until now remained fairly under control have begun to break from their constraints as the Third DAY progresses) Littlemanpoet: (reflecting and slightly remorseful) To be, or not to be – that is the question; Whether ‘tis nobler in the mind to NOT CHEAT (here glaring rather accusatorially at SPM and NILP) Saucepan Man: It was not cheating, and I’m not going to stand here and be insulted like that. Littlemanpoet: Running away, eh? Come back here and take what’s coming to you. Aiwendil: I wouldn’t say it was quite cheating, the anagrams were right out in the open, there for anyone to see. Nilpaurion: Yeah, it was more like in Clue. The rules say “A door is the opening in the wall”, well all the windows have the same sort of holes in the walls. So the windows are doors, it’s not cheating because there’s nothing against it in the rules. Littlemanpoet: There’s nothing for it in the rules either. Saucepan Man: Perhaps, but to cheat one must “violate rules deliberately”, we can’t violate rules if they don’t exist. Littlemanpoet: Oh dear, I hadn’t thought of that. (and promptly vanishes in a puff of [almost] logic) Formendacil: That was unexpected… Kath: Too true, might I suggest we move on. Mormegil: Good idea, I nominate that we should lynch Eomer, as he’s now the most suspicious looking person. Dancing Spawn: I’ll second that, “hypocrite” indeed. Eomer: Fair is foul now, keep that in mind. Farael: And foul fair, but knowing that doesn’t seem to be helping. Celuien: I don’t know, Garin’s been looking pretty wolfy since Day 1. Garin: Wolfy? Glirdan: Gah, this whole thing’s been so confusing. It’s setting up the complete wrong mood for writing music. Boromir88: Look, it’s getting close to NIGHT, let’s just lynch Garin. He’s got the majority of votes now anyway. (The villagers mob Garin and manage to get him onto the gallows which are still in the square.) Garin: I’m telling you, this is a mistake. You’ll regret it you will! (Regardless of what Garin says the villagers crowd round and pull the lever. Like Gil-Galad before him Garin dies cleanly without any signs of Lycanthropy) Tar-Ancalime: Again! This isn’t going well at all…not well at all. (The villagers depart for another NIGHT. They have much to think on, much that needs looking at.) ----- Living: Saucepan Man Farael Mormegil Aiwendil Glirdan Formendacil Dancing Spawn of Ungoliant Nilpaurion Felagund Eomer of the Rohirrim Kath Celuien Tar-Ancalime Boromir88 Dead: Shelob (Mod)--Killed by wolves on NIGHT 1 Abercrombie (Mod)--Killed while Yeti-Spotting on NIGHT 1 Gil-Galad (Ordinary)--Lynched at the close of DAY 1 Holbytlass (True Seer)--Gloucester-ized and welled on NIGHT 2 Lhunardawen (Ordinary)--Drown’d a muddy death upon DAY 2 Anguirel (Ordinary)--Killed quite safely during NIGHT 3 Littlemanpoet (Ordinary)--Vanished during DAY 3 Garin (Ordinary)--Lynched at the end of an eventful DAY3 NIGHT 4 begins, Usual PMs, etc. __________________ A signature always reveals a man's character - and sometimes even his name ~Evan Esar. Pan for Everyone!

02-26-2006, 03:55 PM	#3
Shelob Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: At the abysmal Abyss Mall. Posts: 276	Here lived and died a Shepherd. (The past night was rainy and so as the villagers make their way through the fields just to the north of their town there is much slipping and many villagers, when they eventually reach Dancing Spawn’s herd of sheep, are covered to some extent with mud. The sheep are, for the most part, grazing though some are still lying asleep.) Mormegil: It’s a pity it rained last night, if everything weren’t so muddy we might be able to find traces of Dancing Spawn. Formendacil: Does anyone know how many sheep Spawn looked after? Eomer: Not really, I can’t recall her ever having said. Why? Formendacil: It’s just that it seems like there’s more sheep than usual. Boromir: Perhaps they’re just more spread out than you’ve seen them before, Dancing Spawn isn’t here to keep them from wandering right now. Glirdan: Or perhaps one of the sheep is Spawn. Aiwendil: That seems unlikely, I know Spawn cares a great deal for these sheep but I just can’t see her going native. Glirdan: No, I mean that sheep, (pointing) doesn’t look so much like a sheep sleeping as it does like something wrapped in a sheep skin. (The two villagers closest to the sheep Glirdan pointed out make their way toward it to investigate) Farael: Perhaps Spawn is a wolf…in sheep’s clothing. Saucepan Man: And what? She overslept? Nilp: (having reached the sheep in question) No, it’s defiantly something that’s not alive wrapped in a sheep skin. Kath, give me a hand will you. (The two manage to unwrap the sheepskin, which is around Dancing Spawn’s rather mutilated corpse.) Kath: Urg, unless I’m much mistaken the wolves got her early last night, before the rain really started. (The other villagers gather around) Formendacil: Alas poor shepherd, thou art in a perilous state. Eomer: If these beast be not damned for this, the devil himself… Farael: We should go back to the village, we have another chance to catch a wolf today and there’s nothing we can do here. (With that the villagers return to their village square, short another innocent.) ----- Living: Saucepan Man Farael Mormegil Aiwendil Glirdan Formendacil Nilpaurion Felagund Eomer of the Rohirrim Kath Celuien Tar-Ancalime Boromir88 Dead: Shelob (Mod)--Killed by wolves on NIGHT 1 Abercrombie (Mod)--Killed while Yeti-Spotting on NIGHT 1 Gil-Galad (Ordinary)--Lynched at the close of DAY 1 Holbytlass (True Seer)--Gloucester-ized and welled on NIGHT 2 Lhunardawen (Ordinary)--Drown’d a muddy death upon DAY 2 Anguirel (Ordinary)--Killed quite safely during NIGHT 3 Littlemanpoet (Ordinary)--Vanished during DAY 3 Garin (Ordinary)--Lynched at the end of an eventful DAY 3 Dancing Spawn of Ungoliant (Ordinary)--Thus was the shepherd beaten from their side during NIGHT 4 DAY 4 begins, a bit earlier than usual but then that's the misfortune of my schedule... __________________ A signature always reveals a man's character - and sometimes even his name ~Evan Esar. Pan for Everyone!

02-26-2006, 04:02 PM	#4
Farael Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: In hospitals, call rooms and (rarely) my apartment. Posts: 1,538	Hmm, this death makes Eomer look pretty bad... almost too bad to be real, don'tcha think? We have a smart pack of werewolves in our midst, maybe it's time I change strategy... although I'd much rather see Aiwendil lynched before I do. __________________ I prepared Explosive Runes this morning.

02-26-2006, 04:26 PM	#6
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	Brilliant wolves, just brilliant. They've probably killed two birds with one stone: Spawn and I. Of course, it's easy for me to see that: I know exactly how the wolves' conversation went last night: "If we kill Spawn, the village will do our job for us and kill Eomer tomorrow." I am going to have to do one hell of a job to stay alive today. Nevertheless, I must try. Did anyone notice that Spawn did not answer my charge of hypocrisy against her? Why an innocent Spawn acted so weird is beyond me. I thought she was being malicious; apparently she was only misguided. I had every intention of bringing her down today because I was certain that the village would eventually come round to my side against Spawn. Spawn's case against me was (I'll say it again) contrived, false, and based on hypocrisy, as she herself had been acting in a very similar way to me. Why she had such support yesterday, from SPM, Mormegil and others, baffled me. Have at it. __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

02-26-2006, 04:30 PM	#7
Celuien Riveting Ribbiter Join Date: May 2005 Location: Assigned to Mordor Posts: 1,767	Spawn's death looks like a delibrate framing of Eomer after their sparring for the past couple of days. It's not really something I would expect a wolf Eomer to do since it does automatically make him look really, really bad. But I'm not going to discount him from consideration. It is entirely possible that a Wereomer would have killed Spawn because it is too obvious, expecting to be discounted from debate as a result. Ugh. My head hurts. First I was completely wrong about Garin after being almost certain he was guilty, now I'm trying to work through bluffs and double bluffs. I think I need a nap. EDIT: cross-posted with Eomer. __________________ People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect. But actually, from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint, it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey... stuff.

02-26-2006, 04:39 PM	#8
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	The brilliant thing, from the wolves point of view, is that I would be that bold; and they know it. I'm going to give my predictions for who the wolves are tomorrow. Right now, I'm going to bed. Oh, and if you want to lynch me then by all means, go ahead. But don't waste this day by jawing about how Eomer is obviously guilty or how Eomer was obviously framed. There are three wolves to find, and I expect you all to be professional. The village doesn't have a lot of time left (especially if the wolves' plan for today is a success). __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

02-26-2006, 05:53 PM	#10
Farael Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: In hospitals, call rooms and (rarely) my apartment. Posts: 1,538	Actually, I'm certain there is AT LEAST a wolf in them two.... there might even be two wolves Now, I also forgot to adress tar-a's question... Well, personally I was hoping LMP would be a wolf (which looked quite likely) and Aiwendil would have been implicated much more strongly.... LMP is not a wolf, but I still think Aiwendil is (stubborn, anyone? =P) __________________ I prepared Explosive Runes this morning.

02-26-2006, 04:03 PM	#11
mormegil Maundering Mage Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,651	I was convinced after we discovered Garin's innocence and now Spawn's death only shores up my belief that Eomer is guilty. He will come crying that this is a set up but believe me he was the killer last night. I just can't identify his cohorts yet. Kath? Tar-A? Celuien? __________________ “I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo. "So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”