WWJ V: The Broken Souls

[Roa_Aoife]

(Sorry 'bout the delay, RL kept me busy.) Well, I guess we're trapped with a psychokiller. Anyone have an attic I can hide in?

In all seriousness, there's likely to be nothing real to actually find out our attacker today alone. I imagine most guesses will simply have to be random. I agree with LMP, though. Spreading the vote, though not too thin, will definitely help sound things out. Now, the in-character things are all well and good, but we need sustance with it, if you can. If not, forego the character.

[Naria]

Really now, all this talk about 'taking a closer look' at the quiet ones....and this early in the first DAY...pish-aww!

I think the first DAY is pretty much a wait and see kind of thing--wait and see what everyone has posted and go from there closer to vote time. However, I really do wish right about now that I had my trusty meat cleaver with me....make me feel a little more protected against those of you who are evil.

[littlemanpoet]

It has fallen to me your minstrel, apparently, to open up the true debate.
I offer no plans, no brilliant schemes.
Instead, simply this: we have yet to hear from Thinlomien & Witch Queen. And to stir the pot just a wee bit, I choose now to adopt a certain method that comes down the paths of folklore over the many years.

There are three Wolves amongst us, and I know who they are:

Thinlomien
Witch Queen
Valesse

Please be so kind as to defend yourselves. Thank you.

[Roa_Aoife]

There are three Wolves amongst us, and I know who they are:

Thinlomien
Witch Queen
Valesse

Please be so kind as to defend yourselves. Thank you.

I'm sorry, what?

[Valesse]

Originally Posted by LMP

And to stir the pot just a wee bit, I choose now to adopt a certain method that comes down the paths of folklore over the many years.

Would that method be selecting a random villager and making them frantically sweat out exactly what they might have said that "tipped you off", good littleman minstrel?

[littlemanpoet]

Originally Posted by Roa Aoife

I'm sorry, what?

Surely you do not require me to repeat myself?

Originally Posted by Valesse

Would that method be selecting a random villager and making them frantically sweat out exactly what they might have said that "tipped you off", good littleman minstrel?

Quite. Most obliged.

EDIT: I must to bed. I will have spotty ability to post from here on out toDay, and am somewhat disappointed at the hesitant posting so far (by many). My vote will come after a scurrying scan some time before noon tomorrow RL; it's too early toDay to vote now.

[Valier]

Are ve throwing accuzationz out alveady?

Originally Posted by LMP

There are three Wolves amongst us, and I know who they are:

Thinlomien
Witch Queen
Valesse

I vould like to hear vhy you KNOW zhey are ze enemies? I may be cruel but I do not vink ve should pick on va quviet vones yet. Some people handle tings diffently vhan udders.
But zince we must accuze zomeone I underzand your thoughtz, but ow do you KNOW?

I zink today we chould look at ooh is likely to betray uz
ooh among us as predicted dis all along Jenny! dats who!
And you Roa_ Aoife I am zo much prettyier zan you and your "azzets" you muzzt be jealouz!
But Thinlomien your birdzz ave alvays gave me de ebbey jeebyz

Ve must hurry! I vant to go ome to my manor! I ave not brushed my air in forever!

(*Thought I would spread out the choices a bit...I know they're random, but hey.*)

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Naria

Really now, all this talk about 'taking a closer look' at the quiet ones....and this early in the first DAY...pish-aww!

I think the first DAY is pretty much a wait and see kind of thing--wait and see what everyone has posted and go from there closer to vote time.

I meant not to take a closer look at the quiet ones this early! Just hoped us to voice our intention to do it when this first evening falls: as to lay some pressure on them to actually contribute something during the day. If the quiet one is a wulf, and knows to be safe by staying quiet, we most probably kill an innocent player posting much, and so being a good contributor to the game at later stages, and even enjoyable to play with: be s/he ordo, gifted or even a wulf!

Obviously our chances of killing an innocent are great in any case, but why to make the situation even worse? Or why to ruin our gaming-satisfaction by leaving all-non-contributors to stay alive and kill the productive & entertaining posters?

All these are thoughts on the tactics of the first day! As soon as we have something more solid on hand, we should go for it then and kill the maniac-cursed-villain, even if s/he be the most entertaining poster around!

PS. By quieteness I also mean posting nonsense...

[Anguirel]

The problem is, Nogrod me ole deconstructionist, that not all who like to avoid attention are villains.

And not all who soak up attention through their every pore and embrace it like a long-lost love are innocents.

We can't be quite so formulaic.

The minstrel spoke some sense before he scarpered; of his three, I particularly suspect (on instinct, mind) Witch_Queen and Valesse. Largely because I know that...well, certainly Valesse is capable of expressing herself subtly and ought to have a good deal more to say. I expect she'll lean back on the old Day One excuse.

[Anguirel]

In this town in particular, moaning about Day Ones is the act of a piteous coward, poltroon and fool. Remember the words of our recently lost friend!

Originally Posted by Sleepy Ranger

Well the first two will definately affect the game in some way but after that it all depends on how the game plays out. I won't be dropping off any hints but if you look closely enough you may just find something you could use to your advantage.

So in other words...any of us with more than a little sense should be spending time frantically analysing and over-analysing the introduction to our peril. Evidence could be right in front of our noses...

[JennyHallu]

JennyHallu
Roa_Aoife
Nogrod
Thinlomien
Naria
Valier
Gil-Galad
Anguirel
THE Ka - Deceased - Werewolf
Witch_Queen
Eonwe
Valesse
Holbytlass
Littlemanpoet - Deceased - Innocent
Encaitare

[Holbytlass]

Thanks to those who took out a wolf yesterDAY, I'm sure at least one fellow wolf voted for The Ka. And very sad to see elempi gone, his wisdom and lyrics will be soorly missed.

Originally Posted by Anguriel

What are we supposed to make of this? Either Holby is teasing Sleepy's error, or she's another kind of governor in this town.

Anguriel, I oughta whack you with an anvil! I suppose the thought never occured to you that yes, I do know the proper meaning of "governess" but that Sleepy's mistake did not bother me and so I adopted his definition. As for being another kind of governor, well perhaps Sleepy is teasing me knowing I'm definitely not one of the mentally elite .
Anyway, I'm going back and try to make something of yestDAY's voting record.

[Nogrod]

Well my fellow villagers, you really seemed to have had quite an ending the last night! I do congratulate, first and foremost Roa, to have get us rid of a wolf! I just couldn't believe this RL-stuff. If the moderator should be impartial, here he wasn't (some people could have the knowledge, most did not)...

But there seems to be something quite interesting - not only from my personal view - in the last night's late hours.

As a quick summary I do find the last 1h.20min. include only:

1 apology for giving misinformation

2 summaries

1 personal reflection (given as an excuse?), including commenting + a downright abusement of me (leading quite soon to being one of the posters with the next three)

3 votes against me with either false (2) or (masked)hunch-grounds (1)


This sure gives, at least for me, some food for thought...

I'll be analyzing these accusations and the accusators' earlier posts before I go to sleep.

I know, that a detailed defence is overall susceptable. But in this instance - last 1½ hours bandwagon of three, with myself no possibility of answering, kind of justifies my analysis. And because one of these must be a wolf (my "hunch", this time... ), there could be something there.

Let's see, what there is to be found...

[Roa_Aoife]

Found it. It's this post.

Originally Posted by Holbytlass

Don't find suspicious at this moment: Anguriel,Nogrod (despite the heated posts) and Roa_Aoife.

This was posted on Day 2, so that would be two nights of dreaming, and her fellow seer. (Nogrod if you're the seer again, I'll die laughing.)

[Holbytlass]

I have governing appointments elsewhere and shan't be albe to return, I'm a firm believer in voting early then not at all.
This being first DAY and not much to go on I find Valier, JennyHallu and Naria seems especially concerned about 'quiets' being looked at-perhaps wanting to keep open a hiding place? They do make some valid points but it can be said for all styles of posting, as for me, I'd rather weed out those less likely to leave enough to analyze. However, all this is not much to go on but we need to start somewhere...

Originally Posted by Naria

Really now, all this talk about 'taking a closer look' at the quiet ones....and this early in the first DAY...pish-aww!

I think the first DAY is pretty much a wait and see kind of thing--wait and see what everyone has posted and go from there closer to vote time.

So that you could slip under the radar?

++Naria

[Thinlómien]

Glad to see someone here, even if she visits only to leave again.

I have governing appointments elsewhere and shan't be albe to return, I'm a firm believer in voting early then not at all.

I agree with you. Voting not at all doesn't contribute anything to the game, expect suspicions against the non-voter.

This being first DAY and not much to go on I find Valier, JennyHallu and Naria seems especially concerned about 'quiets' being looked at-perhaps wanting to keep open a hiding place? They do make some valid points but it can be said for all styles of posting, as for me, I'd rather weed out those less likely to leave enough to analyze. However, all this is not much to go on but we need to start somewhere..

. I also find some slippiness in Naria and Valier, but I disagree about JennyHallu. Though she hasn't been over useful, I don't think she could be compared with Naria and Valier. But I'm saying again; there's still plenty of time.Time for all of the three to improve their posting. (And for us all - I can't say that I have contributed very much myself.)

[Eonwe]

Lommy, is that a new record on the 'Downs?

Originally Posted by Anguirel

We can't be quite so formulaic.

I can. I'm voting for the person three names below mine...which appears to be LMP

No, I quite agree with you. There is no formula for anything in Werewolf. Play it by ear is all you can do.

Of course, there are some vague catagouies, such as Quite Wolf, Voters In Pairs, etc, that you can be looking out for, but that is about it. I think the best stratagy is usually to wait for the Seer to announce some innocents, hopefully the Ranger can come out, with hopefully a known innocent, and perhaps the Hunter thrown in there somewhere. Of course, you need to be lynching people along the way, and you want to make as sound a judgemtn as you can, but lets face it, sometimes we're gonna be wrong.

Anyway, as nothing really stands out to me - can you believe it! - I will go ahead and vote

++LMP

like I said I would. No hard feelings or anything.

[Eonwe]

Most everything about Werewolf is nonscense, my dear Lommy.

[Thinlómien]

Glad to see you, Eonwe!

Originally Posted by Eonwe

Most everything about Werewolf is nonscense, my dear Lommy.

And the first day is the most nonsense!

(And this my post is probably even more nonsense. )

EDIT: xposted with the Touché-man

[Thinlómien]

I somehow managed not to notice Eonwe's post #57 at all!!

Lommy, is that a new record on the 'Downs?

Five posts in a row, you mean? I wouldn't wonder if it was.

I can. I'm voting for the person three names below mine...which appears to be LMP

What a great way of deciding! I dread what'd happen if we all were that flighty. There's probably as much chance to succeed by analysing posts and voting because of them as in voting a name three names below, but I'm certain that when doing the first mentioned, the game is much more interesting.

No, I quite agree with you. There is no formula for anything in Werewolf. Play it by ear is all you can do.

Usually, but not always.

I think the best stratagy is usually to wait for the Seer to announce some innocents, hopefully the Ranger can come out, with hopefully a known innocent, and perhaps the Hunter thrown in there somewhere.

And you suggest that we all just accuse each other totally randomly before the seer comes out?!? And all the gifteds should come out so that they'd be killed? A very fine theory, Eonwe.

but lets face it, sometimes we're gonna be wrong.

But we can try not to be! I don't think the best way of avoiding a mistake is voting randomly.

And sorry if I sound harsh, that was not my meaning. This is just friendly criticism.

EDIT: x-posted with the Touché-man and Roa.

[Thinlómien]

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Originally Posted by Naria

I think the first DAY is pretty much a wait and see kind of thing--wait and see what everyone has posted and go from there closer to vote time.

I agree, though some - it seems - don't. What else is there actually on Day 1?

P.S. It just came to my mind that if they are playing well they're the people no one has yet suspected. So all the same I could go around and accuse everybody and wouldn't probably get any wiser. Though, it's always interesting to see how people react to accusations...

P.P.S. The votes this far:
THE Ka - Thinlómien
Holbytlass - Naria